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THE FBI NEEDS TO BE AWARE THAT: [BLUE]DUANE WEBERS RECORDS SHOW A SCAR ON ONE OF HIS HANDS[/BLUE] AND THERE ARE STILL THOSE ALIVE WHO WILL STATED THAT [BLUE]DUANE WEBER USED A MONEY CLIP[/BLUE]. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Seems like all you guys do now is have a pissing game about who can tell the worst story they can find in the way of negative information..regarding any suspect. Grays book is interesting, but he really should have used a Cooper knowledgable fact checker such as Sluggo and someone else to double check that (Sluggo like everyone else will hear something just a little differently than others. This could have avoided some obvious mistakes...about subjects and crime scene information). The hotel the tie was taken from was NOT the Muehlebach Hotel in Kansas City. That was later. The tie was taken in Jefferson, MO from a tall glass Hotel for which I have no name. It was the Hotel Bobby Kennedy stayed at before his speech in Ks and just as he had come off of the Kentucky tour...a tour on which he wore a clip on tie and sometimes NO tie at all. Kennedy had planned to do the Ky tour into the very poor heart of Ky with only a very small group of people. But the word got out and the entourage became a spectacle unseen before in those parts of Ky. Kennedy was VERY sensitive to the fact these people could bearly afford to live - and he was sensitive to their needs. He did NOT make a spectacle of himself by flaunting his families wealth with designer ties on that tour. He endeared himself to the hearts of the common people and had he not have been killed would have been our next president. Only a lunatic could possible link Weber or Cooper to Jim Jones and Ryan - we all know who did that and it was not me - we will call him XXXXX - the word we dare not say in this thread - SSHhhh! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Georger I hope you remember that I have told the story that the ex-wife told me and that Duane told me also. For 2 wks Duane and his wife of the time worked for a caterer who delivered meals to the planes. My memory won't let me remember where this was tonight because I am very tired. It is in my notes of my conversations with the ex-wife. It would have been between 1962 and 1969. It would have been CA. or Denver, Co or Atlanta, GA. They did this for 2 wks. If Sky Chef has their old employment records she probably used her last name. God that would be a miracle if any company had the records of employee that far back. It was in Denver that Duane told me the story about this. That was the day he described every plane we could see - the names of the planes and who made them. It was this same time he told me about deliveries being made from the a stairway beneath one of the planes. He did NOT call it an Aft stairway. This recollection was in 1978 or 1979 while we lived in the Denver area. I told this story to Ralph Himmelsbach during the early yrs before I went Public in 2000. I also told this to Doug Pasternac and others and I believe in this thread. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I did not chase Carr away - he hung himself with the comics and other things he was given privately about Weber - he never searched. It is up to the FBI to make the call to investigate or not investigate the same as with Weber. I have NO pull with the FBI or anyone else about who is investigated or not. I have NEVER talked to the FBI about any subject other than Duane. I dismiss other subject in the thread far less than others do. I have never attacked Vickie about Mel nor do I attack Blevins about Christiansen. I state my opinion and not as strongly as you guys do your opinions about me or Duane. Is this a HATE Jo forum? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Geoff made mistakes about all of us - but, I am only addressing the mistakes he made regarding me. YOU JERRY will have to read the book and ADDRESS whatever your BEEF is with him. I only told you WHAT was said. I didn't make the words up. They are in the book. AGAIN I told you TO STOP the name calling. I don't think you would be very happy about some of the things I could say about you Jerry. In fact I would never stoop that low...I will not allow myself to stoop to your level, but I warn you I do have my limits. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Pg 49. Skyjack - How I met Duane Weber. This accounting is not accurate by any means. I makes we sound "Trashy" and perhaps now I know why someone many posts back referred to me as a Redneck. I was NOT out of work but having money to go out was difficult as there was NO spare money. Prior to moving to Atlanta I was the manager of a high end clothing shop so my outfit was very classy. I seldom went out. Champagne I didn't like then or ever. I never went out with the idea of being picked-up - that was NOT my style. I went to the Hilton because it was upscale as I had been used to in the past. My prior husband never wore flannel Jackets - he would be appalled to read that. His mother ran a men's shop and he was always dressed very well. He was also in Insurance sales .. was always in suits and blazers (a very sharp dresser). I would never insult that husband by stating otherwise. He never learned the meaning of one specific word I felt was the heart of a marriage, but that was his problem and not mine - therefore after 10 yrs of marriage I decided to END that marriage and it was a hard decision to make because of my children. Gray makes me appear "Cheap" at this point and in other places. I will make it clear to him I do not appreciate his filling in the blanks with what he thought was and not what was. My family and friends will not appreciate how he portrays me - but, I am sure he wrote these chapters before ever meeting me, but did NOT take the time to redo them. My Father and Mother would not meet Duane until about 3 yrs after we were married and I bet Daddy would turn over in his grave if he knew what Gray wrote.

Are we sure this is what happened? Did they actually go past Cooper? How many people then actually got a GOOD look at Cooper? We would have more than the descriptions given by Tina and Florence and the other stewardess! What page is this on? Perhaps he didn't care if they recognized him. I believe that Cooper did NOT expect to survive. Well maybe someone noted a scar on one of his hands! You Think? Check out Duane's prison records? A scar is noted on one of these. It had faded to the point I never notice it until he pointed it out to me after 1990 when he came back to the house after his time alone for several weeks - WONDER WHY? No Reason for these Posts Just Because I guess Maybe I am on to something Maybe you guys are on to something. Borrowing Florence's express! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Someone posted Go Figure - I caught that in the only interview of her's I saw - it was all I needed to say NO WAY. On the refrigerator no less - DUH! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

. Don't remember who stated the above but,I am glad they said it. He did an "Inquirer" type story about his attempted interviews with Tina's family and then another one with his intrusion upon Tina. On top of that he makes photos of Tina available on the internet. I tried to forgive him, but in a brief conversation with him today he was demanding an apology from me. I was puzzled! First - Tina and her family needed to be aware he was going to show up on their doorstep and I did what any normal person would do about someone they chose to protect. He is jumping my bones about a call to his"mother" and I will explain this below: A few weeks ago I had tried to call a person whose name is just above Bruce's number in my address book. She has changed her number many times and I had scratched through and then wrote phone numbers in the margin. This is a small book like a woman carries in her purse. I called the number in the margin and it turned out to be Bruce's contact number when he was in The East (remember when he contacted another family member of Tina's). At any rate he was using his mother's phone number and I had wrote it in the margin and forgot about it. I called the number and mentioned that she (referring to my friend) "sure is a hard woman to catch up with". The other party told me she was not the party I was trying to contact. I asked her who she was because I had the number in my address book. I asked what party I had reach and why would I have her phone number? She gives me her name and I look just below the number I had for my friend - there is Bruce Smith's listing. I had written his N.Y. contact numbers in the margin on the name above his. I then explained to her what had happened. She asked me how I knew Bruce - I was polite and told her I was someone he had been talking to about a story he was working on. Not much else was said and I apologize for the call. I needed to ask Bruce today something he might know about and instead he was DEMANDING an apology from me for getting his mother upset. She was not upset at all - in fact she was laughing about it when I told her what I had done. She is a very nice first class lady. I apologized to Bruce as he demanded - but he kept on and on. And finally I BLEW - I told him I didn't owe him an apology for accidentally dialing the wrong number and that I had done nothing wrong. I THEN read him the ACTs on what he did with Tina and her family, but it was useless. He kept on and on. I hung up after I told him what I felt about what he did and told him to "Have a Good Life". I apologized for dialing the wrong number - there was NOTHING else to apologize for. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Georger when you get a chance see what you can tell me about that post I made regarding the Wool and the next post about the other passenger no one talks about. Right Now I am going to bed. Hope you had a nice evening. Gray is in WA as we speak. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

When subjects like the above are mentioned in a Book they become public matter for discussion. When individuals do NOT want certain information made available then they should not talk about it to writers. I said nothing about Jerry or his family that was not public knowledge. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I also understood that one of the passengers was a skyjumper for the forestry - is that true? I remembered reading about this man back in my early research and then never heard any more about him. Sheep hair would transfer real easy to the tie - we have been told it was folded over and between the 2 seats. But NO ONE has ever explained the time frame between evidence being retrived and the tie being located. Sheep hair could get on that tie by transfer - wool likes to cling. That wool or sheep hair could have been from a prior passenger who sat in that seat. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

This is a question you might know how to answer. Geoff said Sheep hair. That is odd. How does Sheep hair compare to poodle hair? Curious and idiotic question, but you have come to expect those from me. Or was it processed sheep - hair like in a Wool scarf? The federal agents who where on the plane, I understand were removed from the plane separately from the other passengers. Do you know WHY? I have a reason to need this answer. It was not like these guys were secret agents. I know what one of them did - process orders. I was told they broaded in Missoula - but, do not understand this. I have forgotten for where the fight originated and if any connections were made. The same person tried to tell me they boarded in Missoula because of connection being late. Is this true? Just some questions rambling around in this empty brain of mine. Now this silver 'you' found. Would the finish to the plexiglass used on the Boeing windows have this 'silver' in them or be finished off on the outside with this silver. The windows are tinted as we all know. Now be careful how you answer that question - it is loaded. I do not understand a lot of the technical things you discuss, but after reading this in the Geoff's book (about the silver) I am curious. I want to hear your explanation because things we tell others get lost in the translation from what we actually said to what ends up in print. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I am just tired of JT's attacks and he scares me. I am afraid of physical harm from that man. The way JT uses words could cause one to have a heart attack. He is the meanest man I have ever spoke to on a phone and in this thread. He stressed me so badly twice, I did ended up in the ER. 1.When he called me LIAR LIAR over and over for 40 minutes. 2. When he was threatening on this thread to go to the senior center and call the media after I have kept quiet for 10 yrs. Being quiet in your area doesn't mean you have stopped your search - I am just not exposing myself locally and I keep a low profile. I am not blaming JT for his family problems - READ Geoffrey's book. All of this about his daughter and her opinion of her father is in the BOOK. JT gets caught more than once in lies in this book...and another book. So if he gets caughts in a book on lies - WHY does this man continue to ATTACK me with almost every post he makes calling me a liar over and over and never presenting one iota of proof. I have proved in the past with emails and with a live broadcast that he was the one lieing, yet he is allowed to consistently attack me every time he posts. He has yet to recognize that I am not a liar or teller of stories. If Jerry looses it the way he does in this thread and has the animosity he shows toward me in this thread - I fear what he might do in person. He carries a gun in his car per the book...I don't care if he has a permit for it...the man is too verbally volitile to be carring a gun. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Best way is to go to the book store and have them order it and get it sent to your home. Since I live so far from major department stores and bookstore that is what I do if it doesn't show up at Sam's on my 4 times a yr visits. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Ringo was the below post at all necessary - it was RUDE: He apologized for any offense and this is what you said: nope, apology not accepted. go back to kindergarden That was not necessary and it was very rude of you Ringo. Also you made the following remarks: Ringo you said in another post: Perhaps you need to tone your own posts down:

Book a Million - do you have one close by - call and see if they have it. Are you a Cosco or Sams member. I like Sam's - cheaper. Ask the book store to get one in. I also do not use Amazon and never order anything on line (thought I was one of the last individuals who refuses to bank on line)! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Jerry, I suggest very strongly you read Geoffrey's book and read what he says about YOU. In one incident he uses a quote you made about me in the thread. You are calling me names and calling me ignorant and yet, your post was so full of il lliteracy it was a mockery. Also in the book he points out a lot of the "stupid" things you do and say. He presents you as others see you and not as you see yourself. No wonder your daughter turned to drug - you reap what you sow, Jerry. If you can't understand Geoffrey's presentation of you in his book then let one of your children explain it to you. Your time would be better spent going back to school and learning to read and write and spell. If one is going to call another ignorant, you need to learn to spell it. If you are going to call others liars don't get caught telling lies yourself...they are now in print and you can't make them go away. Just encase you didn't know or are unable to read. P.S. I have never been afraid of a polygraph nor have I commited fraud or any other crime in my life. As for attention - Jerry, I don't call other people names to get attention. You - yourself are the only one you will ever hurt again by calling me a liar. You were caught in BLACK and WHITE, not only in this book, but another book. We won't even discuss what you have done to discredit me over the yrs. starting on day one when I first contacted you at the recommendation of Mr. Himmelsbach. You are who he sends everyone he want to get lost and misled. ???? You won't even get that one. If I had a father like you I would have to do drugs just to deal with it. You put me in the hospital twice with your words, but now you can never hurt me again. The way you treat me is probably the way you have treated your own daughter all of these yrs. I feel sorry for her - not you. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

nope, apology not accepted. go back to kindergarden johnnyringo, your comment is duly noted. Thanks for your reply. I do NOT know why they are all being so hostile toward you. I have no idea who Ringo is but he has not been a regular in the past. Usually they are very acceptable of newbies, but I don't know what they did with their manners lately. Sorry you have had such a bad experience here. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Vickie I can't keep up with all of the initials. Do me one with all of these things you young people use so I can print them out and put them infront of my computer. I have already forgot what FNG means. I do not know what you guys are talking about, but get the general jest. FNG. ? OMG - I know that one Used to be smart, but now it seems like I get dumber everyday. I read back and I didn't understand why you gals got so up set with Mr. Green. It is obvious he is not used to communicating in a forum most of the individuals have a predetemined conception of Cooper. Give the guy a break - he came here to learn something about Cooper for a reason. Give the guy time to get used to you - you guys were pretty hard on someone who obviously came here to learn something - not be picked on. I don't like certain posts either, so I just learned to skim it for content and move on. It is really hard for me to get past "really nasty posts" where the person does not know how to be polite or is a smart ass. I didn't get that opinion of Green. He seemed like a man who was searching for some information on D.B.Cooper and Duane L.Weber and it brought him here. Lots of people key Duane L. Weber/ D.B. Cooper and simple things - I tried these kinds of searches and I did come up with a link to D.Z. one time. After that I tried it and D.Z. was gone. I am a DUMB ass when it comes to searches. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Georger - why don't you answer the question in my last post just before you made a joke - you aren't very good at jokes! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Are you saying the FBI is going to announce another suspect? Perhaps you should be a little more detailed in your "threat" about what is to come in the morning. Are you saying they have a particle DNA for another suspect or that Cooper has come forward and another confession is on record? I do know some information I cannot discuss - but, I am waiting for the results. Good or Bad - hopefully it will enlighten the Past of Duane Weber. Perhaps someone has been able to uncover the exact where-abouts of Duane Weber at the time of the jump. If that is so - why did it take 15 yrs? Perhaps someone has shown the Book and the picture to Tina and with a statement regarding the picture and the books. If so this is long past due. A lot of suffering and could have been aleviated by the FBI doing that yrs ago. The un-answered questions is why I have only told my story in this thread - WAITING for the FBI to contact me and let me know it was over and to produce proof of who Cooper was. It they have done that - then they should also be able to produce the records I have begged for years ago, before I expended 15 yrs of my life on this. This thread and the interest it has generated - should have caused the FBI to have made such a move yrs and yrs ago. They waited and waited until more and more lives had been destroyed...not just mine but members of other countless families. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Just what does that post mean. I spent one afternoon and one morning with Geoffry. He wrote a book that is mostly about you guys and Cooper. Why would I regret it? Is there some NEW subject who has been ID'd as Cooper? Are there new claims and new proof as to the identity of Cooper? I just think that Geoffrey did a good thing with his book. I said nothing inflamatory about any of you or others. You and others in the Book and in this thread have chewed me up and spit me out. If the FBI had evidence Duane was NOT Cooper they could validate then it should have been presented to ME in person yrs and yrs ago. I will note that Geoffrey mention that the DNA used for Weber came from an electoric razor. The very item I informed the FBI agent would NOT likely to have Duane's DNA on it. That Electric razor was a gift before he died - he had difficulty using it and preferred the old fashion way. I cleaned it very thoroughly and used it on my legs. I cleaned it again when I found I also preferred a regular razor. A friend stayed with me after I had some surgery later and he used the electric razor. His DNA would be on it and it may have been used by another person who came to visit me (not a relative of mine). Both of these individuals are deceased, but they both had children who they could use to prove the DNA found on the Electic razor. I have 2 items I refused to give the FBI - a watch and a pipe. When they extract DNA to compare with any supposed DNA the FBI extracted from the plane - then the FBI need to prove this beyond a shaddow of a doubt. Maybe the DNA on that tie belongs to another passenger on that plane - he wore similar ties and had a clasp similar to the one pictured - so says his relative who I recently talked to. This relative was definitely on the plane and his name was listed on the passenger list. He was a government employee. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Why not talk about lightning striking Jo. It's more probable than she ever suing. It's all talk. That's actually good. BS litigation threats don't cost anything. Real lawsuits will suck money out of you faster than anything Farflung ran into in Amsterdam. And while we are on that subject Farflung, just what district was your car wheel-booted in? 377 Excuse me, I never said ONE word about Geoffry's book that would give me reason to sue. I was referring to "others" and NOT myself. Geoffrey had a few superlatives and inaccurate quotes from me, but NOTHING worth worrying about. He got the idea across. He did not record me - therefore he had to depend on his memory. I think none of you understand the Last Chapter. It is a play on the whole Cooper Story. He was not singling me out, but trying to point out just where the Search for Cooper goes...it is an endless, consuming circle. Some of you need to get a "sense of humor"...Geoffrey was successful in applying humor in this book - but, perhaps only to the extent those of us involved will get it. One does not read a book and take every word as gospel. There are literary liberties that must be taken and are taken in doing a book (even in history books). Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Well, lets just wait and see what the 40th Anniversary brings. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber