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Jo Stated: Orange smarts off: "Was Doug Pasternak in the room when Duane said what you claimed he said? If not what is the point of asking him?" Jo States: You are an impossible creature!The DAN Coooper was because JT keeps thinking that I should have known who D.B.Cooper was when Duane said Dan Coooper in the hospital. He doesn't get I did not connect - DAN to D.B and he doesn't grasp the fact I lived in the South and not in the N.W. where he is some kind of legend and there is a festival every yr. to remind me D.B. used the name Dan. It is senseless to respond to you. I do not understand what you do NOT understand about the difference between Dan and D.B. 1. In 1995 Duane said Dan Coooper. 2. In 1995 I did NOT know that Dan Cooper was the name given by D.B. Cooper when he boarded the plane. Is that clear enough for you? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

377 stated: Put Duane on the plane Jo. And please tell us how info regarding an Englebert Humperdinck performance is relevant to this? Jo replies: Englebert Humperdinck played in Tahoe in the fall of 1979. I need to know the exact dates. The relevance of this is to establish the exact wk Duane I went to WA. ==================== 377 stated: Put Duane on the Plane Jo replies: The FBI has to at least hint as to what will put Duane on that plane. A mouse, the match book (I don't have that, but if they had told me in 1996 - it was still in the drawer). If they had told me about a code - there were numbers in the back of that old metal address book. I CANNOT offer the man who bought the VAN immunity so only the FBI can do that. I CANNOT find the man who bought the parachute part (oh and yes I do have a picture of one I think it is - I just need to hold one in my hand). I cannot make the FBI owe up to a mistake about the prints - PROVE to me the prints at McNeil are the same ones at Jefferson and explain WHY Duane was NOT encarcerated under Weber and commuted under Weber - WHY Collins? UNLESS - they didn't catch it because of a flaw in the finger print system. Find the family who is missing books on that flight that were never returned to them. The book was in water - or moisture while in Duane's possession and crumbling along the lower edge. One of the Books is GOLD and religious in it's content. The other Book is from the N.W. and created by individuals who haled from that area. Joan Garrity lived in Mt St. Helens, OR. and she was the artist in one of the books. Duane Weber claimed to know a woman who lived in Mt. St. Helens, OR. Find Joan's daughter and find the history of Duane Weber. WHY did Weber have these books? The books prove Duane was at least in the area and Cooper"s Garage was in St.Helens. Is that why he used the name Cooper? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

377: I still swear by all that is dear to me - I did see that picture of 3 men in front of what I assume to be a prison. This was early in 2000. It was among the very first searches I ever did on a computer. I did NOT know how to save sites or searches - it was during the first 2 months I owned a computer. I contacted Doug and told him about it - but he couldn't find it either. I also have done extensive searches including contacting a historian at one of the prisons - he could not find it either. The only searches I had done at that time was - Smokejumpers, forestry programs, San Quentin, Folsom and skyjumpers. The program never took off - and it stemmed from one of the forestry programs. The 3 pictured had volunteered for the program. Under the picture was maybe 2 or 3 lines. No article I can remember - it was a strike off from one of the other places above. The POOF's are NOT BS. Georger: The offer below still stands. "I have something I want to scan at a very high resolution and put on a disk to send to you. I will do front and back of ONE item plus a couple of pages from within". "If you are really able to analyze things - then analyze this. I will include with the disk - small particles (fragments) of this item that have crumbled away. This item needs to be analyzed to see if it was stored with any of the money at any time. The item is deteriorating rapidly. It may even have finger prints within it - most of the outside will be smudged from handling". Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I never said that Duane knew who Cooper was. He said "I'm Dan Coooper!" Ask Doug Pasternak about that. I have later said as in "theory only". "If Duane was NOT Cooper he sure as Hell knew who was". This was AFTER the FBI sent me a letter in 1998 - I knew what Duane told me, but WHO was I to argue with the FBI. When I learned in 2000 the FBI lied to me about the ARMY record and the McNeil file - that is WHEN I STOOD up to the FBI. This is when I took my stand and fought back. Jerry you get so many things confused and turned around - it is time to stop the MJ thing and maybe then your kids will respect you. You TEACH by example not by the DO as I say. Did you read Geoffrey's book? Did you understand his book? Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Jerry: Below is post 26290 Where is this post do I say I did NOT know anything about D.B.Cooper - I did NOT know D.B. Cooper gave his name as DAN COOPER. In the South we do NOT get Cooper news all of the time...When Duane said Dan Cooper - I did not KNOW D.B. Cooper gave his name as Dan Cooper. I left off your post I replied to where you called me a name. Post 26290: Jerry there is NO need in TRYING to be nice to you. I try, what do I receive, but these kinds of abusive insults! I retired because I REMARRIED! In 2002 we found out he had CANCER. By 2004 it was essential I be there FOR my husband... I stlll maintain my continueing education credits and my license on an inactive status. I have NO need to go back into the market and only maintain this for my own benefit. You seem to WANT to ignore the fact that I regard the Skyjacking as a crime - and NO I had NO motives other than to know who the Hell I was married to for 17 yrs. I didn't give it a second thought - when I found out who DAN Coooper was. I did the right thing and picked up the phone and called the FBI. My background - if you do the crime you do the time. If he was this criminal he told me was - I wanted to know if it was true. Had Duane still been alive - I would have done the very SAME THING - called the FBI. Being Cooper is no legacy - the bastard committed a crime. Duane knew this about my character - and why he waited till he knew the end was near before he confessed this to me. I wish HE had TAKEN it the Grave with HIM, but he didn't and therefore I fight this battle. I AM the ONLY family he had left. His sister and brother were alive, but Duane had no contact with the bother since 1958 and his sister had limited contact - she also knew his secret and begged me to leave the past in the past. IT was a CRIME and I had to do what I had to do. Both individuals were alive when I called the FBI - both older than Duane (he was the baby). I have not trashed Duane - only wanted to know who this man was. In 1995 when Duane died and when the items that had been hidden in his van were returned to me - I puzzled over this for a long time. I didn't understand the hidden wallet and the identification in it...but, I did NOT know who Dan Cooooper was. Note you have accused me of not knowing about D.B. Cooper - sure I knew who D.B. Cooper was if someone had reminded me of it and had brought it to my attention - I had other things in my life and it did NOT revolve around old unsolved crimes. I did NOT know who Dan Coooper was - not until May of 1996 and I was immediately on the phone to the FBI. NOW Jerry, EAT your words and your accusations. I did not prior to 1996 eat and sleep Cooper the way you do. I did NOT know who Dan Cooooper was. When he told me about Dan Coooper remember he was dying - I never even thought of the connection and that is the last thing anyone would think of with a husband who had been given only a few days to live. USE your damn LOGIC if you have any! FIRST GRADE LOGIC EXPLAINED BELOW: NOW THE TEACHER IS VERY UPSET AND SHOUTING: [RED]UNDERSTAND THAT KNOWING WHO DAN COOOOPER WAS AND WHO D.B. COOPER IS THE KEY. UNTIL 1996 WHEN I READ THAT BOOK - THAT WAS WHEN I LEARNED THAT DAN COOPER WAS THE NAME GIVEN BY D.B. COOPER WHEN HE BOARDED THE PLANE.[/RED] Until I read that book I knew very very little about D.B.Cooper. There was the article in the news in 1971 when Cooper did the crime. Then the article in the Denver Post after the money find - a article I never got to read. Remember Duane took the paper with him. There was a TV program I never got to see...because Weber arranged for us to go out on a weekday with another couple (the only time except our wedding night we went out with another couple in our entire marriage). The next thing I know about D.B. Cooper was a book of mostly fiction I read in May of 1996 - the same night I called the FBI. Oh! and I forgot he mention Cooper in WA in 1979 - I vaguely knew about the crime, but thought he was kidding me. I knew NO details about the crime at that time. END OF SUBJECT - please learn how to comprehend what you read. People a lot smarter than you have tried to HOAX me and they couldn't catch me in a deliberate lie. They discounted the theories I played around with trying to figure it all out...because I had usually qualified it as theory or a maybe. I was exploring like everyone else. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

They just ignore it like it was never said - and that is what the FBI did to me for yrs. Maybe now they are listening - you think? Well, they will be very very soon - with what I have finally decided to do - hell what do I have to loose - my life? Not worth much right now....since the world has labeled me a loo loo. So I might as well go forward with everything I have! If I fail - and they can PROVE it is not Right - then prove it before I make my leap......... If the FBI has the GOODS that prove Weber WAS not Cooper - it is speak NOW or forever hold you peace. I have stayed out of the media for over 10 yrs - that does NOT mean I stopped nor did My people stop investigating the background of Duane L Weber aka John C. Collins aka Dan Cooper. Jo, No more threats! Just do it! But if you are having violent thoughts, get in touch with your shrink as fast as possible. Violent thoughts - sure what could a little old woman do? I could jump out of an airplane! I am afraid of heights and my bones are too frail to do a tandom jump....whatever you guys call it.! Going forward with everything I have means going public and that is something I hate. It means subjecting myself to that which I detest in others. What I mean by "what do I have to loose - my life". Remember I am old and my health is NOT the best . I would be putting off more surgery for a condition that causes me discomfort and pain (it is a scary surgery). That one will put me down for 6 wks. It also means I have to subject myself to the pressure of going public and I am prone to panic attacks which raise my blood pressure to heart attack stage. I refuse to take medications that dull my mind and I also refuse oral pain medications as my body reacts to those with serious allergic reactions causing horrible rashes and intestinal problems. The FBI has dragged this thing out regarding Weber for 16 yrs and that is way too long. If they actually had PROOF Weber was NOT Cooper do you not think it appropriate they should have at least made it available to the widow. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

They just ignore it like it was never said - and that is what the FBI did to me for yrs. Maybe now they are listening - you think? Well, they will be very very soon - with what I have finally decided to do - hell what do I have to loose - my life? Not worth much right now....since the world has labeled me a loo loo. So I might as well go forward with everything I have! If I fail - and they can PROVE it is not Right - then prove it before I make my leap......... If the FBI has the GOODS that prove Weber WAS not Cooper - it is speak NOW or forever hold you peace. I have stayed out of the media for over 10 yrs - that does NOT mean I stopped nor did My people stop investigating the background of Duane L Weber aka John C. Collins aka Dan Cooper. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I am not being sarcastic or derogatory Jo but that newly posted "angle" photo doesn't look significantly different than any other Duane photo, at least to my eye. The front of Duane's head slopes like the figures in ancient Mayan carvings and statues. It's pretty distinctive. I've not seen that feature described by any DBC witnesses. 377 The artist did his best to try to depict this in the shading of the forehead - you will note that a profile of the skyjacker was NEVER made public. Have you ever read the minutes of the witnesses conversations with the artist? Do you even know if this was even done? The slant was NOT obvious unless you stood over him. Standing face to face or looking up at him - it was not pronounced. This is obvious from all the photos allowed to be public. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I have something I want to scan at a very high resolution and put on a disk to send to you. I will do front and back of ONE item plus a couple of pages from within. If you are really able to analyze things - then analyze this. I will include with the disk - small particles (fragments) of this item that have crumbled away. This item needs to be analyzed to see if it was stored with any of the money at any time. The item is deteriorating rapidly. It may even have finger prints within it - most of the outside will be smudged from handling. I have already researched the history of this item - the author was 93 when I found her a few yrs ago. Oh, I also found the author of the second item - she lives in OR...Joan Garrity was the artist on this second item...very N.W. specific! Strange Weber would have these 2 items. NO! I cannot and will not put this in the thread and you will have to sign a confidentiality statement regarding this item. You know my email as it is in the thread and it is NO secret. Depending on what you find on this item then I will provide you with another item. These items may have absolutely NOTHING to do with Cooper, but I need to know.....unless the FBI intends to announce who Cooper really was very soon. And I do mean VERY soon - not NOV. Now I am going to do something I have NEVER done. A picture that includes me. I am doing this because of the angle it shows Weber. Since there is NO way anyone could recognize me from that photo taken 31 yrs ago, I felt I would leave myself in the photo just for the hell of it. The angle of the picture on Duane and the way his hair line was along with the slant of the forehead. This is how the stewardess would have viewed him siting in the plane. I want to make something very very clear. I have pictures of Duane taken before and after 1971 - his hair has lots of gray in it. So after the jump he washes out the dye and becomes this steely gray headed salesman NO one would even connect to Cooper...he also gains weight. His wife was keeping his hair died after he was released from Jefferson in 1968 and the first pictures (never released and made in 1972) - show the almost gray Weber and a man who looked NOTHING like his prior self. I still do not understand why the photos are so different - the look is that of a gangster in the early 1970's. Weber was a cameleon in his appearance. Geoffrey and others have made remarks how surprised they were to find Duane had so many different "looks" and how close to before and after the crime they are. I have been selective about the photos I have made available and for good reason. Attached is one I believe was made in CO at a Christmas party - which would make it 1980. Note the HAIR line - exactly as the composite shows it from this angle. Perhaps this is the photo the witnesses should see. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Farflung you seem to be the wizare of this thread and able to find amazing things. I need HELP to find something. Englebert Humperdinck Played in Tahoe in the fall of 1979. Can you find the dates he was there. This was a special appearance. I am not sure of the Casino because we went to so many. You are GOOD at this - help me find the dates - this is very very important. I do know he was in Chicago just prior to appearing in Tahoe - need exacte date he was in Tahoe after that. Thank you or anyone else who can provide me with this information. To ALL: Regardless of anything I told about the matches past or present - it would be questionable - but this was discussed with Himmelsbach in those early yrs prior to 2000. Since there has now been computer exposure - nothing I said would make any difference. Remember - I thought anything I said was going to the FBI. So very very stupid of me...I did NOT understand how the system worked - like I said my roots must really be blonde (no insult to the real blondes out there - just a thing from the 50's and 60's that was an expression). If someone can provide me with another expression to use so I will not insult the blondes of the world - please inform me of this. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Right I am loosing it! The matches were a pale Dusty blue - maybe faded from time. I made a post earlier and HAD to delete most of it because I had. I had said things I have been told NOT to say! That was REAL and NOT a teaser. I am loosing it, but not over Cooper. There has been something else going on in my life for the last 4 days and this evening is the first time I have NOT been a bundle of nerves - hopefully I will get a GOOD nights sleep then I won't sound so OUT of it. I believe the last 4 days have been the worst in my life. It is about ANGER and FEAR and THREATS. I tried to help someone else and this was the end results. I thought this person was worth trying to salvage - but, the price was too high on my own emotions and health. So if I haven't sound like my usual self (what-ever that is) now you know why. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

The weather was definitely not "stormy" that night as the airliner passed through the Portland area heading for Reno. The winds aloft at 10,000 feet were from the southwest at between 25 and 30 knots and were not a big factor in the flight. There is absolutely nothing in the records to support a wind from straight south at 80 knots at 14,000 feet as has reportedly been claimed by a Captain Bohan. What has happened in this thread - Voices of reason lately. It is beginning to sound like the some of you believe Cooper did survive and that the conditions where NOT as bad as the public has been led to believe over the yrs. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I know I have reports and I saw them the other day - I have 2 different one's but right NOW I can't remember what either one of them said. I may have had it in hand if I was posting from it. I frankly don't remember. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Why would you even think such a thing

Was the match book cover a pale powder blue. Perhaps faded with time? I had heard your explanation of Sky Chef before - was it ever mentioned in this thread? Maybe where I heard it? Remember the things that appeared in Feb of 1990 after Duane's little trip to a mid-west state? The mouse, the glass, the parchute parts and the books. The other things that appeared and disappeared - the ticket, the stub and the bag - during that same time frame. I will always wonder what happened to those things. The shop was broke into 2 times during that period of 6 or 8 wks. Duane went to the back of the work room door and said "It's gone!" I never knew what was gone...what did they take and why...probably not Cooper connected. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Thank You! How about CO,LA, AL. S.C. and GA - mix in a couple of trips to FLA to pick up additional income. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

EACH TO HIS OWN. I DO NOT WANT TO SPEND THE MONEY AND DO WITHOUT OTHER THINGS (like food and lodging and paying the utilities, insurance and prescriptions). The trip to WA stressed my finances and I planned for that for 3 yrs. Our library here is VERY limited and open only a few hours everyday. I don't like a lot of distractions and due to my health have to keep the tempurature of my home at 74 and no shoes. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

No Vortex phenomenon - and I am NOT one of those wanting to be part of a grand drama. Surprise surprise and the mouse is laughing with Cherry Cheese Pie all over his face. You Will Never Know If You Don't Know Now! Duane was Dan Cooper. EXCUSE ME! I am not a rude obtrusive Enquiring journalist. I respect the privacy of the witnesses.. I did send a photo album to Florence, but do NOT know if she received it. Prepaid return packaging was enclosed.. Never knew if it was received. She would have had that package on Feb. 14 of 2011. That was this past February. I chose NOT to be in their faces and that is as close as I have ever come to doing so. If she did NOT think any of the photos could have been Cooper, simply returning it with a BIG NO on it would have been appreciated. Silence Speaks Volumes Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Would the windows of the jets have a coating on them or any of this so called sponge T you speak of? I just DO not see the significance of Duane having amongst his momentoes a 1 -1/2 inch x 4 inch piece of airplane window glass. Mouse was NOT a joke or a tease. Will a Cherry Cheese Pie Recipe solve a 40 yr old mystery? Geoffrey wonders. The Cooper Story is one riddle afer another and befitting the real Cooper who knew how to keep a secret. Don't forget the code. Never forget the code...the crazy loo loo old lady did. Was that Code ever actually published in a Newpaper. Army serial # 35608905 Navy serial #283-56-96 7 is the turn around # All of this equals the code: 7698QA2753 In Prison they used to sit around and make up codes and they also talked about doing the BIG ONE. 7 is the Turn around Number. Mouse Was King. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

No Vortex phenomenon - and I am NOT one of those wanting to be part of a grand drama. Surprise surprise and the mouse is laughing with Cherry Cheese Pie all over his face. You Will Never Know If You Don't Know Now! Duane was Dan Cooper. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Too expensive for me. I do NOT use a cell - for emergencies only or travel. Buy my minutes for a yr and no monthly fee. $100 a year for 1000 minutes good for a yr. My telephone is unlimited Long Distance for $50 per month. I have an analog TV and the antennae is in my attic cosst me nothing. I watch little TV. I used to read lots of books, but that has been curtailed by an eye problem. Even sitting at the computer I have to tape one eye up to continue to work - why you are seeing so many errors lately in my words and spelling. I just try to say what has to be said as quickly as possible and go on to the next task. ALL of the have to have technology is why so many young families end up in financial trouble. The only problem I have with dial-up is not being able to watch the U-tube things and some of the things you guys make connections to. I down loaded Flash player 10, but haven't tried to access the files yet. I didn't even know there where actual case files regarding Cooper available from the FBI. Are there any details in those files that have NOT been disclosed in this thread? I really do not feel lilke trying to read them. Not feeling very well at all today. So quiet you can hear a pin drop. The end of a long 15 yr struggle for me. There have been those who have tried to HOAX me and yet, it can't be done. (One was just in the last few weeks - he did a good job, but could NOT get me to lie or create a story to match a story he told me. Maybe his quest was real, but NO connections made in our sharing of information.) I had hoped I had found a connection to Duane's past - be it Cooper related or not...it just did NOT pan out. I am tired of defending my scruples and my character. I am tired of being called a liar and teller of stories. Certain individuals want to profit from Cooper - either to promote themselves or their finances or their organization. Due to the way our society in this America is structured, those who play dirty and make others look badly usually come out on top. It is time for AMERICA to turn this around and stop making heros out of those who have stomped on the truths through coersion and abusive behaviour. Individuals who conduct their lives in ways that destroy others should be punished and made to account for their actions with public ridicule. Unfortunately the younger American generations would rather be enticed by promotion of turmoil and chaos and injustice. It is evident that the decaying of American values will be its down fall. I believe most of you here will know what I am trying to say, but then there are those whose heads it will fly right over. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

When did they release all of those FBI files on Cooper. I don't have adobe flash player so how do I read them or get copies? I only have dial-up service. If they are legitimate I will pay someone to make me copies and mail them to me. I get very leery about things like that on the computer - wasn't even sure it was a legitimate FBI site! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Okay, Okay - I made some spelling errors, but I was very tired. Computer not commuter and I meant to say "I do not know when she was born". Best guess between 1943 and 1946 . Maybe as late as 1947. I know his mother checked on a marriage to a woman in 1943, but do not know if this was the woman carrying his child or if the incident occurred later...or if he was even married to the mother of his child. I do know the child would have been born before he went to SanQuentin - that is only logical...Right? I was mad about the post she made because it was totally uncalled for, but I was already very tired - not getting enough sleep. At 70+ I need my BEAUTY sleep. Good night.

Sorry Vickie, but that is how they do things. We know Cooper was "print phobic". I believe it was Gray who said the match book Cooper used and put in the forward pouch was retrieved by Cooper. Fact or Myth - I don't know. If the above really happened then Cooper probably had prints on file.. The prints available from Cooper were latent prints and particials. ..it was stated yrs ago by Himmelsbach and others that the FBI did not know if the prints they had even belonged to Cooper. Duane's prints from 1944 are dead center prints - they did not roll the fingers like mine were done to obtain a Real Estate license in the 90's. I think that was the only time I ever had prints made. Now they do them electronically - did the FBI get my prints? I forgot! Old Timers is robbing me of my memory along with all of the Cooper Mumbo Jumbo I keep in my head... P.S. Tonight when I came here to make the above post there was a LOCK on the screen - and my first thought - "The thread has been LOCKED!". My mind was racing "Maybe Cooper has been revealed". Then POOF the LOCK disappeared.