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I might be wrong, but seems like I remember that cattle or cows grazed the Fazio property. Would that be significant to your question? but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill

Since I do not go to U-Tube I only know about this individual what you guys post here. The story a man told and the tone with which it was delivered gave me reason to think this U Tube guy and the guy who contacted me could be one and the same. I noted the manner in which the message was delivered - the wording has a tone - caps and spacing and words. I am definitely NOT any kind of person to do this - it was my own personal take and wanted to know what you guys thought. If they compared? Both CLAIM to have solved the case. All I know about the u tube guy is what you all have posted here. Outside of that it is ZERO! You know when someone comes out with "I've solved the case" we have to go through all the secrecy and hint dropping stuff til the book comes out...."don't tell anyone what I told you - even though I posted my phone number on you tube and invited anyone to call".

Agree about the chute. btw...Has anyone heard from Sheridan Peterson? I just notice that it "appears" as if he has not had a legit internet presence since the first of the year - but I could have just missed it. I would have expected to see some comments on recent events. Hope he's doing well. but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill

LOL...wow...you got further on the case than anyone else....thanks I needed a laugh......but you're gonna have to be way more specific than that. Like how? And, for goodness sakes, don't include anything to do with Kenny Christiansen as going further on the case than anyone else. Writing about Kenny Christensen's life and interviewing people who knew him has nothing to do with the DB Cooper case in fact. It's just speculation and taking a set of coincidences and/or wishful thinking and trying to connect dots to a historical case Now whether you are ultimately vindicated is left to be seen, but, at this point in time, knowing facts and/or anecdotes about KC does not, I have to clue you, equal getting further on the DB Cooper hijack case than anyone else. Sorry, but, yep, you're just gonna have to get in line behind a bunch of other folks on that one. Once again, these never-ending na-na-na-na-na pissing contests leave me constantly amazed....but you're in luck cause I found the perfect ditty: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTUSRud-WZw

Bruce, With all due respect, your "encounter with an interdimensional being" is a bit too much for some of us. I hope this being stayed out of your Cooper research. Robert99 Yes, Robert 99, I agree. I should have put a woo-woo warning on the post. On the other hand, it can be reassuring to know who the New Agers are amongst us! (smile). Rest easy, my Cooper writings do not mention any angelic encounters. However, I do discuss remote viewing in Chapter 28, though, so be careful when you read the book. Would you like a copy? I can send you an electronic version that has had two edits. No Index, yet, or Acknowledgements, however. No book deal either with a mainstream pub, so I am launching a hunt for a literary agent. BTW: In terms of a "Way, far out" rating scale, let's say 1-10, what would you give my Flight 800 story? 9.9? Just asking. You didn't ask me, but........ I can see the Blue Angel (we know em as hants and they can be dealt with swiftly by a root doctor if need be).... and I can certainly see writing a song with 4 bottles of wine on the tailgate of a pickup truck (hell we do that all the time with and without dixie cups).... but I'm having a little problem picturing you doing the free form dance thing for 3 days. That's kinda out there

Bruce, With all due respect, your "encounter with an interdimensional being" is a bit too much for some of us. I hope this being stayed out of your Cooper research. Robert99 I think the show is about the explosion of a plane over Long Island Sound, not Cooper, and Bruce can't be held responsible for the content of the TV show. The determination from that accident said that fumes from the central tank ignited in flight, detonated by a short circuit of a high-voltage wire outside the tank that fed additional voltage to a low-voltage wire that ran inside the tank. I never believed that missile story. You'd need a Stinger or something similar to hit a jet at that altitude in flight, and a heat-seeking warhead would have gone for one of the engines, not the place where the explosion happened. Not only that, but the recovered pieces would have had explosive residue evident on surfaces and none was found. Hmm....I think R99 might be referring to Bruce's Blue Angel, not the documentary. but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill

I like her writing style. And interesting story about the phone call. In her response comment to Brucesmith she states that she's not sure about her memory or the 18 inches - but she has the interview with her Grandfather on tape. From here..... http://formersuburbanmom.com/2012/04/23/d-b-cooper-and-the-aft-staircase/ Suburban Mom April 24, 2012 at 4:53 am but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill

But let's see......what the hell do they know?? LOL.....Dang, you keep making my point for me. Thanks! but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill

There you go again. That's the point. Where did you read or who told you that the silk assessment was made ONLY by a single source, Cossey. Where did you read, or who told you that this is the ONLY reason that the FBI had for ruling out the chute? Where did you read, or who told you that the FBI has to give you their conclusions, or how they reached those conclusions. Would we all like an open book? Ummmmm, yeah. Are we likely to get it? I doubt it. While you are second guessing, why not call for an investigation into the skull that was found near Estacata, Oregon in the mid 70s near a parachute hanging in a tree. That one was ruled out because the age was said to be in the 30s and because the location didn't fit with the way the wind was blowing.... So they are basing it on an age that half the people with Cooper candidates dispute, and the wind direction/flight path which another half dispute. Hell, I want a recount. And what about that flight path? - you place blind trust in the folks that came up with a probable dropzone, but Cossey wouldn't know the parachute he packed if it bit him in the butt?? And btw whether the found chute was silk or not.....there have been silk chutes excavated from the wet moors of England in good condition and the Amboy chute that was found was not in pristine condition no matter how many times you try to say that it was.

One of the biggest coincidences in this case - if the information on Bruce Smith's site has been verified - is the proximity of Tina (living in Gresham, OR in late 1979) to Tena Bar (about 15 miles if I remember correctly) right around the time the money was found which was also right around the time Tina entered the order. Don't know what it all means......or whether it had anything to do with the bundles that Cooper offered Tina. Just sayin...it's kinda hinkey. but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill

Whether or not a lot of people wonder about the chute was not the point of the post - I might wonder about the chute but I'm not going to misrepresent what the news articles say that the FBI says. They do a good enough job of that themselves. You just have a bad habit of taking thing wily nily out of context and then making this grand summary that is incomplete and inaccurate. Then you come back and make these long posts with changes to what you said originally as if that makes it all kosher. People constantly point out these inaccuracies and you think it is no big deal - and maybe its not but it only increases that pile of caca that we have to wade through. I think that's why a lot of people on here don't seem to take you seriously.That and the general "legend in my own mind" tenor of most of your posts. Even when you come back and change the story line as above, you missed some articles and you missed most of what Ckret said on this forum. Btw where does it say they only consulted with others on the phone? but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill

Yeah, mine too. Apparently, her's too. Robert seems to think she looked more like 5'5''. Hey - why not change TIna's height - why should she be immune to making up shit as we go along? but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill

I can't believe you repeated all that stuff again. LOL...that would give me a headache too. First you don't know when that picture was taken, second - like the comics on the wall - you have no pics or proof that KC had a tie clip like that, or ever wore a wig. Third you're having people recount exact conversatons and thoughts from 40 years ago. Read up on memory and how fallible that is when you start discounting primary eye witnesses - I'm thinking I'd put instant eye witness testimony against 40 year old memory any day, but that's just me. The KC story actually started out kind of plausible - until you dig a little deeper and find there's way too many holes, convenient conjecture, and plausible alternate explanations for all of your coincidences. Sucks, but we can't all be Cooper......but.look on the bright side - you got your own little slice of immortality as long as the history channel has reruns or your tivo holds up.

And you've just propagated more of it. Look at pictures of Tina alone and next to others. She's definitely taller than 5'5. Kenny.....not so much. The PRIMARY witness statements were taken down before the plane left Seattle and agreed on the basic parameters. The other passengers were likely not in as good a position to judge height - since they only saw him walking down the aisle - if they were even looking. Other than that he was primarily in his seat. They would've had to turn around to stare - and from most of their initial statements - they said they didn't even know what was going on so they had no reason to take note of him. And I'm sorry, but I'll never understand the "I know something that y'all don't know" crap that people unleash on this forum. It's right in there with "owning rights" to actual events. One more thing that makes the eyes roll. The whole FBI/ Cossey / chute events/timeline you mention above is off and doesn't contain all of the information from press reports that the FBI gave or from information that special agent Carr put on this forum. But you either don't comprehend what you read - or you just don't want to entertain anything that doesn't fit with your take on things ---- or--- to paraphrase Apocalyspse Now, "What the hell do you know about surfing? You're from g**d*** New Jersey." Whatever the case may be, not gonna try to convince you since a simple search would enlighten - but I will note AGAIN -- for the record and everyone else -- that what you posted above about Cossey and the chute is inaccurate as to all press reports and as to what was posted on this forum by special agent Carr. Just sayin

Yeah that's the documentary that the facebook page is about. Interesting life to say the least.

Haven't looked on the thread yet to see where the conversation about him went in 2010, but I did find out that he was indicted in Butte Montana in Feb 1970 for interstate transportation of a stolen tractor from Seattle to Anaconda. Haven't found anything about whether it went to trial or not. Lots of stuff about the court cases on the smuggling, and being a fugitive. stuff about the documentary on his team's attempted snowmobile run from Minneapolis to Moscow. "Wild Bill's Run" is on Facebook. Couple of pictures from early 70s. The one in the airport is 72 or 73. I think he's the one with the ........yep...............briefcase! I think we might be on to something..... then those flippin hazel eyes ruin everything.

William Lloyd David Cooper Known “Bad Guy.” Born and lived in Canada. Able to finance (expensive) adventures in 1971 and 1972. Once lived in Portland, OR. Had reconstructive surgery on his face (confirmed). Okay. I think I remember this post of Sluggo's (I left out parts in interest of space - anyone interested can read MrShutter's post for full post). Don't know if it got much discussion then. I'll have to do a search and see. Thanks Shutter. but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill

I think you're probably making a joke, but I"ll bite. I actually thought this might be something to look into but I haven't done enough reading to say it out loud.

Ok.. I have to admit it... I have been saving it for all these years... my 4th GrGrandfather was named Sam Cooper from South Carolina.. LOL...Busted! You do realize that this makes makes you kinda sorta southern to boot. Howdy cuz

I think you're probably making a joke, but I"ll bite. I actually thought this might be something to look into but I haven't done enough reading to say it out loud.

Yes, damn it. I said Radio City Music Hall. And make it quick - the audition starts in 20 minutes. [inline just_tryin_to_get_a_leg_up.jpg] but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill

I'm just seeing Groucho Marx. I'm also seeing, if those pictures on the right are of LD, in pictures taken at two different times in his life, he apparently had a thing for big sideburns. Those kind of sideburns just don't seem to be the type of style that a guy would wear on and off. If you like that look on yourself, there's a reason - you probably think you see Elvis when you look in the mirror or something. but....A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.....Winston Churchill

this might be William Lloyd David Cooper AKA wild Bill Cooper, he was looked at as a suspect for DB Cooper. http://www.paullundgren.com/journalism-mnmonthlycooper.cfm Didn't our plane start out or have a stop in Minn? We need some physical descriptions and see a picture of this guy now.

this might be William Lloyd David Cooper AKA wild Bill Cooper, he was looked at as a suspect for DB Cooper. http://www.paullundgren.com/journalism-mnmonthlycooper.cfm Didn't our plane start out or have a stop in Minn? We need some physical descriptions and see a picture of this guy now.