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Me too.

Me too. I live in a barn with skunks.

still cant find it! HAS ANYONE GOT A PAGE NUMBER FOR THIS 302 IN PART 77 ? There are 396 pages in Part77. What page is this below? BTW this says it is part 2 of a 2 page report. Where is page 1 ????????????????????????????????????????

OK thanks. So far it appears all 302s dealing with dna seem to date to the same Lab work/report Ap 2 2002, and the same kit used. One test, one kit. So far no dna work other than Ap2/2002 seems to be involved. One test or battery of tests yielding nine positive loci within limits, but only one kit used and identified. That appears to answer that question. One thing I need to find out is if our people had any input into the design of that kit. I simply dont know but I need to talk to a few people who have records in order to know. - that will take time. One test - one kit - nine loci detected within limits. All April 2 2002. Its a Friday afternoon so this will go into next week. Thanks for the id.

I have that somewhere ... Someone identify the 302 in Part 77 that contains the image below posted today? I need to see the whole 302 and any related 302s. What is the page number in Part 77 for this 302 image? Does the new 302 date from April 2 2002? You people need to provide page numbers for any 302s you post! How is anyone supposed to find them without identification of page numbers! ?

OK, let me consult with a few people. This may take some time. Note kit name used in header.

Thanks!

No she did not! Stop making stuff up. Tina quoted said: "eight cylindrical objects about six to eight inches long with four of the items being placed on top of the others and banded together with (black) tape. " (Interview 11-30 Mucklow)

OK thanks for the clarification!

I recall the same statement but it wasnt mine as far as I recall - maybe it was Kaye? I was surprised that McCrone was not more helpful. They dumped a boatload on Tom. I actually showed the McCrone list/wheel to several chemists - one at Integ DNA Tech, and they were shocked. One commented "I see no pattern!". "A bit of everything". I replied to one, "Maybe thats what you get from an intentional plant" and he laughed and said, "that could be". So the plant idea has been in my mind since this surfaced. I know in advance some people will react very negatively to that - maybe even Tom. Where does this tie fit on the bell curve, of what? ! Occupational ties?

My suspicion is the Cooper is so special its off the charts compared to any other tie on Earth!

We already have one set of controls operating with the tie - Boeing workplace ties vs the Cooper tie. That report alone makes the Cooper tie special ... off the charts?

So Cossey packed an unusable chute that did not work ! ? Cossey packed the chute for Mr Hayden, not for DB Cooper!

Moreover, are there disparate or even contrary groups of particles on the tie ? Particles that should not or cannot normally be found together ? I am suspicious that this tie does not represent a tie normally worn in day-to-day work life, but is a cast-away that Cooper picked up and perhaps even intentionally left to confuse investigators. We know, for example, that one of Cooper's primary concerns when he got on the plane was the presence of air marshals, so he was very aware of the law enforcement implications of what he was doing. He knew LE would be checking for evidence after he left. Its not beyond reason that he tried to cover his tracks or confuse evidence collectors. He may have intentionally picked a tie or doctored a tie and left it, designed to confuse and boggle the minds of investigators. I do not buy the Carr narrative that Cooper was a dumb ass and an amateur! I think Cooper considered risk assessment and his hijacking was no mere stunt by an uneducated person. He went to some length to build a device that looked like a bomb with correct wiring and wire coding, he picked the right plane in the right place at the right time, and he factually left no evidence that could be tracked directly to him. I think Cooper was a thoughtful person ... Is the tie an improbable assemblage of disparate particles not normally found in common existence? Was the tie prepared in advance for the hijacking? Was the tie a plant? Cooper took his bomb with him so it could not be examined and traced!

Im saying you need a hobby that doesnt require thinking.

Really! ? Guess again. They are just making it up - for you! Its pretty obvious you dont have any firsthand experience in these matters!

FBI 12 gauge load is probably triple aught 000 buckshot - 20 pellets in the average shell - will drop a large deer in his tracks at 50 yards. Inside 20 yards it will shred every artery and bone it hits causing massive unsurvivable damage and bleeding The force will disable and put a large man right on his ass instantly which is exactly what is intended. Vietnam Marines carried 12g 000. Have you ever seen what the ten gauge version of 000 does ? (A goose gun)

Like your imagery !

Hmmmm. Any accessory store where we can buy "Your Favorite DB Cooper" paraphernalia? Head bands, wrist bands, t-shirts, auto decals, foot gear, tat stencils, jock straps, bras, ... you name it ? Your favorite suspect packets written by all the right researchers? I would love to have a TK wrist band or a Elvis Ulis cap ? I want all of my kids to have em too! DB Coper wanted a chute packed by Earl Cossey or a military chute signed by Eisenhower or Gen George S. Patton. Imagine what it would be worth on eBay today!!

you must not have heard that Cooper didn't want the military chutes. Really? Where does it say that? Cite the passage.

Noteworthy must read - Edwards topics recently examined November 26, 2022 D. B. Cooper and Flight 305: Stuart McClelland The Harrison notes and redactions vs edits. People noting aircraft positions - who was first. November 17, 2022 D. B. Cooper and Flight 305: Oregon Could Cooper have jumped in Oregon - FBI examined that option. Did Willamette bring money bag to Tina Bar ? Would these redactions/edits change the flight path as alleged by some ?

Is that Rataczack beside him?

Human Genome Finally Completed! New opportunities for the Cooper case ? https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/how-scientists-finally-completed-the-human-genomic-puzzle

agree - very old news covered years ago. Recall it was Galen Cook who argued that reverse tides could have brought money from the Lewis to Tina Bar. Unlikely if not impossible for a host of reasons.

I agree, distribution of the particles must be addressed. The Cooper tie doesnt appear to have been protected by a lab coat. Likewise the Boeing tie. I increased gamma and sharpened your photo in Photoshop which results in particles being sharper with greater contrast against the tie. Hope my photo posts ... and it did.