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RMB replies: Not my job unless I'm hired to do that. And I'm booked solid.

I find it difficult to believe that several bundles would wash up in the same spot together. One here, one there. It is a physical impossibility because: there is only one atom in the world, the RMB Atom. He had previously thunk there was but one atom in Creation. Himself. Over three years the possibility of another atoms creeps in. Stage four has been reached: persistent repeated denial. "Oh pleez Maah. Say it can't be so! Pleeeeeuz!". Bwahahahaha... Little Bobby may not be alone in the Universe after all! What then to do ! Take out the papers and the trash Or you don't get no spendin' cash If you don't scrub that kitchen floor You ain't gonna rock and roll no more Yakety yak (Don't talk back) Just finish cleanin' up your room Let's see that dust fly with that broom Get all that garbage out of sight Or you don't go out Friday night Yakety yak (Don't talk back) You just put on your coat and hat And walk yourself to the laundromat And when you finish doin' that Bring in the dog and put out the cat Yakety yak (Don't talk back) Don't you give me no dirty looks Your father's hip, he knows what cooks Just tell your hoodlum friend outside You ain't got time to take a ride Yakety yak (Don't talk back) Yakety yak, yakety yak Yakety yak, yakety yak Yakety yak, yakety yak Yakety yak, yakety yak Pssst* Will he see the connection. No. Will he deny the connnection. Yes, of course. He will call it another personal attack. He will say its disrupting HIS thread. Yakety yak (Don't talk back) He cannot understand why two of anything would exist in HIS world! So, Yakety yak (Don't talk back).

Kaye has also been quoted as saying he believes the money arrived at Tena Bar by what he calls 'non-natural means'. In other words, he rules out dredging or washdown. This really leaves only two possibilities. One, that the bills were purposely placed where they were eventually found. Two, that the bills washed up there somehow a short time after the hijacking. 'If you can't be an example, serve as a warning...' (From an article about Lindsay Lohan) The problem I have with the 'washed up from the nearby river' theory is this: How exactly did three bundles of the money end up in the exact same spot with nothing else found? I would tend to believe this theory more if the bundles were found scattered over a wider area, or i'If you can't be an example, serve as a warning...' (From an article about Lindsay Lohan) f one bundle or less was discovered...OR a majority of the money. But three or more in a single spot, as a result of washing up or something, is very difficult to reconcile. I know some of you have heard this before, but I discussed this issue with former FBI agent Bob Furhman (sic) up at the sports bar next door to Third Place Books in Seattle, when Geoff Gray was doing his book tour. And I took a lot of flak for speculating here on this site that maybe the money WAS a plant, after all. Furhman said that my theory actually made sense, and when I asked him if anyone at the FBI thought of this when the money was discovered, he said no. 'If you can't be an example, serve as a warning...' (From an article about Lindsay Lohan) Think about it for a moment. Let's suppose that the hijacker plunged to his death in the Columbia, and that the money bag somehow washed loose or whatever. Then explain how MORE than one bundle of the cash ends up in the EXACT SAME SPOT with'If you can't be an example, serve as a warning...' (From an article about Lindsay Lohan) nothing else around. The chances of three unattached bundles (no strings holding them together) ending up in a single spot are remote indeed. One bundle, sure. MOST of the money, or a great deal of it, sure. One here, one over there, okay. 'If you can't be an example, serve as a warning...''If you can't be an example, serve as a warning...' (From an article about Lindsay Lohan) (From an article about Lindsay Lohan) Three together (approximately) is tougher to explain. I say approximately because people have said the bundles came in different sizes. Okay...maybe four, maybe five, but the total was about $5,800 which means more than ONE, and that makes it tricky to explain how they ended up in the same spot due to washing up solely by river current. They would have to stay together somehow for this little water trip and that is TOUGH to explain. One packet here, one packet a foot away, one packet over there. Fine. But sticking together and ending up in the same spot? Explain that. With no other money found in the area, or any other evidence of the hijacker, it is very difficult to do. 'If you can't be an example, serve as a warning...' (From an article about Lindsay Lohan) 'If you can't be an example, serve as a warning...' (From an article about Lindsay Lohan) 'If you can't be an example, serve as a warning...' (From an article about Lindsay Lohan) 'If you can't be an example, serve as a warning...' (From an article about Lindsay Lohan) /reply] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stationary_point mmmm. only known stationary point in the universe has been discovered! Turns out to be a person!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stationary_point http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stationary_point

Actually, I said that this book was my fave one on the subject. The idea that Harold Bride (Titanic wireless operator) got his ears practically blown out by the Californian is strictly an opinion. I didn't actually quote a reference. If you wish, I will repost the original. Actually you said: ""That is all true. Bride (wireless, Titanic) practically had his ears blown out that night." (your words) Either you said this or you didn't! Your post is below. Either its true or it isn't. I think its your artistic license at work again. RobertMBlevins Send a Private MessagePM Add to FriendsFriend United States Jumps License In sport : : : Apr 4, 2013, 11:54 PM Post #42110 of 42119 (93 views) Shortcut Registered: Aug 1, 2010 Posts: 3180 Re: [Robert99] Smokin' Smokejumpers [In reply to] Quote | Reply In Reply To In Reply To Like the Californian turning off their wireless set when they were only a few miles from the Titanic. Blevins, Don't forget that the Titanic's radio operators were very rude to the Californian's radio operator and ordered him to stay off that frequency. So he turned off his radio and went to bed since it was quite late. Of course, shortly after that, the Titanic's operators were wishing they had been more civil. Robert99 That is all true. Bride (wireless, Titanic) practically had his ears blown out that night. But still...the Californian was really slacking at the worst possible time. Some on the crew actually spotted the Titanic's rockets. I guess all of that wasn't really the point, though. The point was that Georger is always pointing at me for trashing the thread, when in reality, it's been a steady diet of gobbledegook from him lately. And I'm not the ONLY one who has noticed this. He's also expanded that repertoire to include others besides yours truly. 'If you can't be an example, serve as a warning...' (From an article about Lindsay Lohan) Here is some actual history - not Blevins made up stuff. At 2:10, the Captain released the R/O's under the "every man for himself" rule and said "you can go now, boys. You've done your job well." After the power eventually failed to the wireless equipment, they left the wireless shack, stepping over the body of the unconscious stoker, and emerged onto the rapidly flooding deck. The R/O's noticed a group of men trying to lower and launch the Collapsible boats lashed to the roof of the officers' quarters, but "having a rather rough time at it." Bride climbed up and assisted in pushing B off, which landed upside-down. Then, everyone scrambled for the boat deck again. Phillips ran aft toward the sounds of a ragtime tune and Bride thought of following but the group around Collapsible B needed more help. He returned to the upset raft and had a grip on one of the davits when a giant wave caused by the bow dipping under washed him and nearly everyone else working on the Collapsibles overboard. Jack Phillips died later of hypothermia (we believe found near one of the collapsibles adrift). Anna gave her ticket to her sister also hoping to join her husband in Saskatoon. (Welsh coal miner) Anna made her way to Canada later. Her husband died in a mine collapse. Anna was sent to family in ________ where she is buried.

I have NO idea what you are talking about. I get the idea that perhaps you don't either. If you can't be an example, serve as a warning...' (From an article about Lindsay Lohan) You say your account is in a book. Show us where it says: ""That is all true. Bride (wireless, Titanic) practically had his ears blown out that night." (your words) I think you made this up. Show us your citation.

Thats right. You read books and articles. You also read between the lines and can mind meld. You say: "That is all true. Bride (wireless, Titanic) practically had his ears blown out that night." I assume you are saying he had his eardrums blown out, practically speaking, almost, well sort of, in a manner similar to, physically or psychologically speaking, ... was partially deaf thereafter ... and if Jim B could find his body Blevins would be vindicated. So Blevins, why dont you write Ballard and ask him to verify your account? Or are you now going to do a search and find out who my relative is that worked for him and pester her? I'll give you a hint. It's Linda's mother".

Blevins, Don't forget that the Titanic's radio operators were very rude to the Californian's radio operator and ordered him to stay off that frequency. So he turned off his radio and went to bed since it was quite late. Of course, shortly after that, the Titanic's operators were wishing they had been more civil. Robert99 That is all true. Bride (wireless, Titanic) practically had his ears blown out that night. But still...the Californian was really slacking at the worst possible time. Some on the crew actually spotted the Titanic's rockets. I guess all of that wasn't really the point, though. The point was that Georger is always pointing at me for trashing the thread, when in reality, it's been a steady diet of gobbledegook from him lately. And I'm not the ONLY one who has noticed this. He's also expanded that repertoire to include others besides yours truly. Hey DUUUUDE if you want to pretend you were on the Titantic or are some kind of expert on the Titanic, that's your problemo - I wasn't there (and you weren't either!) and I have nothing to do with your claims! (But I did grow up with a lady whose sister was on the Titanic and there's a toombstone for her in Nova Scotia, I believe. One of my relatives worked with Ballard for years.). Claim you were on Apollo 13 for a change! Or at du Dop with Duane! Why am I or anyone responsible for your mental gyrations and claims?

Snipped all of your kakah ... for the essential - Shouldn't you ask Lindsay Lohan? Or her cousin Rudy ? Or his cousin Merl? Or his brothers Oivle and Toivle? Robert replies: Oh, no...of course YOU aren't responsible in part for creating discord on this thread are you? No...that could never happen with a pro Cooper investigator like you. When I read posts like you just did there, this is what I actually see: Kind of like Morse Code or something, only it doesn't make any sense. Like the Californian turning off their wireless set when they were only a few miles from the Titanic. Don't post stuff like that and then point to me as the problem, sir. Face it. You no longer have the right to point out what 'the problem' is. You have BECOME the problem. What you clipped, which isn't kaka, but a legit question: "What you clipped, which isn't kaka, but a legit question:" who is the legitimate question directed at?! Duane? Only Duane could answer this and Duane ist el morte - ja? I guess you are asking Knoss! Surely you aren't asking JO ?! ??? Im beginning to see a pattern here. N1 asks N2 asks N3 and this goes on for an hour until basket weaving time, then lunch, more questions back and forward, then recreation on the lawn, then nap time, then dinner, then more discussion ... lights out at 10:00. There is always tomorrow. Until state papers run out... BTW this is all old news here - same discussion has been had with Jo on exact same point millions of times. So welcome to round #5693.

Snipped all of your kakah ... for the essential - Shouldn't you ask Lindsay Lohan? Or her cousin Rudy ? Or his cousin Merl? Or his brothers Oivle and Toivle?

looks like an old tent to me - circus tent? bet it smells ? kerosene and bees wax? like the stuff I and Grandpa built a kayak out of when I was a kid ... launched it into the icebergs on the Columbia. ... I AM JUST JOKING BLEVINS! NO NEED FOR A DISSERTATION ON GEORGER'S SIXTH GRADE LEVEL INTELLIGENCE ETC..NON ENGLISH SPEAKER ETC ... WAS BORN AND RAISED IN WASHINGTON ...WASNYT SELECTED FOR DACHAU ...

Well there you go ... you make a valid pojnt! Im no expert on parachutes ... never claimed I was! sure ... more lines could take up the increased stress placed on fewer thicker lines. What do I know about this? NOTHING.

Your 400 lb parachute theory is another issue. You make this chute sound large. In fact a round of this size for cargo is rather smallish. I large round in the cargo realm like a G-12 is over 60 feet in diameter and can carry upwards of 2500 pounds. A parachute the size of a T10 is speced at 360 pounds but was capable of doing over 400. I have no expierence with a T5 or T7 but they would have to be similiar in design. Remember a parachute has to carry its own weight in Harness as well as payload etc to the ground. Smoke jumpers used cargo packages. Even in the olden days. Tools, radios, food and water weigh a bit and its easy to get to 400 pounds. are the lines thicker on the pictured Amboy chute vs an nb6/8 ? are the lines thicker on cargo chutes? its common sense if they they carry a heavier load the lines would be thicker ? Force = Mass x Acceleration

I worked as a factory janitor one summer Georger and I cleaned toilets. Does that define me caste wise in your eyes? You've taken repeated swipes at Blevins about his house cleaning work. Why? You don't clean every toilet you use. Someone else does. They don't deserve to be demeaned for it or revered either. It's just work and people who do real work deserve respect. Why engage in personal attacks so often? Try a little love and understanding instead of rancor and venom. You reap what you sow. Why plant a toxic crop? 377 He wont accept the facts not to mention allow anyone to have their own thoughts on anything - he challenges everyone and everything - and you accuse ME of bringing toxic crop? You have the carpenter before the horse! The cart has not even been made and I am 100% serious about this. Your blindness astounds a lot of people. Maybe you are part of the problemo ? There has just been too much Blevins history that has been splashed on everyone. Something which people are still dealing with daily.

Then WHY do you think he's right in saying the chute is silk when all the available info casts that into serious doubt? Take your time. I'm here all week, as the saying goes. What "all available information" ? Oh! You mean that Cossey is a govt certified longtime expert on parachutes and you are a toilet cleaner sometime writer ? Then yes Blevins. I would back Cossey any day over you. It's simple. Your claim to having all available information or even knowing all available information is false.. therefore, your reference to all available information is typical Third Reich exaggeration. Say hello to Wally the Moose. I see you and Jo Weber are really on a roll tonight. You twins don;t even need a full moon! My guess is you both sleep like rocks without any conscience too. It's one of those benefits only Wally Worlders & Shape Shifters get. You claim to all available information means that you have accessed all available information, therefore, you must be FBI! People have questioned the FBI about it. So far they decline to give a straight answer@! So you must be Wally World and not FBI ? Hell Im only guessing here ... but you know and will tell me! Play it again Sham Wow.

"Brian" at Nick's Tavern in Amboy told Meyer and me that he and his buddies had cut plenty of shroud lines off of the chute when it as still buried. They used them to make fishing sinkers, which I don't understand, but that is what I heard him say. Were they cargo fishing sinkers - this is vital Blevins will ask: I think you are mistaken or lying. How can you cut anything off a parachute that is buried?

Georger: As I said previously, NO. I don't believe Cossey's explanation that because the Amboy chute (he says) is made out of silk and not nylon...that this is why it can't be Cooper's. Maybe it isn't Cooper's. But that explanation doesn't make sense. Since you support that explanation wholeheartedly, (you've SAID so) I would like to hear why you think Cossey is right. Can't have it both ways. You've said you would believe anything he says over me. Fine. Then WHY do you think he's right in saying the chute is silk when all the available info casts that into serious doubt. You gotcha me! "Since you support that explanation wholeheartedly, (you've SAID so)" I must have said it! You say I said it. Not only did I say it, I said it wholeheartedly? With whole heart conviction, ad bonum est magnum cum laude est! Gotcha. Mind reading. Quoting. Personality evaluation ... all in one place at one time... Question fer ya Blevinaide - am I Black? Jewish or Baptist? What was my mothers maiden name? What my stock exchange entry key? how many fingers am I holding up?

I do remember reading this tractor story Georger but I have no way of knowing if it is true or accurate. The problem with researching "facts" on this forum is that it isn't a peer reviewed publication. As BK denmonstrates, anyone can get published. Any wild theory can get publsihed as alleged fact. If the tractor account is accurate I'd sure like to know what remained unexcavated. I cant imagine that the FBI or the US military wouldnt have wanted to see if human remains were there. The US military goes to GREAT lengths to investigate freshly discovered old crash sites to see if human remains can be found and identified. What lies beneath? To me that's an interesting question. Maybe Bruce will find out someday. 377 do we not know that Larry etal went out there and dug ... It is as if everything prior to Blevins at DZ nevere existed. That leaves Blevins and AB Books free to make any thing up. I am not going to sit here and constantly have to look everything up to defend the past, just because Blevins and AB Books showed up with revisionism in mind. But credibility is at stake in case anyone cares ... You can add "400 pounds" to an endless list of similar errors of basic fact, which launch endless posts all based on error. The central issue is: reality vs made up stuff. Facts count!

Damn! I wish you hadnt posted that! Doncha know that all cargo parachutes weigh 400 pounds? Blevins carries one around everyday just for exercise .... the 400 lb Haynes jockey strap! 4 Clydesdale gonads abreast! Sorry. I was going to let Blevins continue just to see how far he wold go with this ... it's classic Blevins-speak.

Robert99 replies: Blevins, the information above states that the maximum cargo load is 400 pounds, not that the parachute weighs 400 pounds. Robert99 Damn! I wish you hadnt posted that! Doncha know that all cargo parachutes weigh 400 pounds? Blevins carries one around everyday just for exercise .... the 400 lb Haynes jockey strap! 4 Clydesdale gonads abreast!

You might do a search on this thread? All of this was previously discussed and you were here. I seem to remember the following passages: 'was hit by the tractor blade as he was making a new road ... ' 'kids saw the chute partially unearthed ... pulled on it but it wouldn't come out ... father got off the tractor and looked ... so went home ... and came back and finally cut the chute free ... ' things like that. but of course everyone could be making this all up. It always amazes me when 'some people who post here who search the internet endlessly' never seem to search Dropzone or post anything from the past that people said here ... dont you find that interestink? maybe it doesnt serve their cause ? they them and it may even be relying on people forgetting the past! To build a new Straw Man ? Play it again, Sham Wow 77.

There could be a lesson here for the folks who promote the idea that the Amboy chute is a cargo chute from a military plane. Maybe it should have more marks and ID on it to meet that criteria? What military plane? What promotion? What folks? The FBI? So far as I know you are the only guy on the whole planet who is "promoting" the idea that Cossey was wrong in his professional identification for the Govt. And your credentials in this matter are ... ? Not so fast Skippy. http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080202231409/uncyclopedia/images/1/11/Beating-a-dead-horse.gif Why don;'t you just call everyone a liar and get it over with. Marla ~ FBI ~ Geestman ~ Cossey.

Didn't happen...no way...no how. Thanks for playing! http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vintage-1945-silk-army-camouflage-cargo-parachute http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/sis.html?_nkw=RALPH+LAUREN+BLACK+LABEL+Gray+SILK+CARGO+PARACHUTE+PANTS+6+&_itemId=200794162412 http://www.surplusandoutdoors.com/shop/british-militaria/miltary-headgear/parachute-maroon-beret-with-brass-1049468.html

On the subject of the Amboy chute lines. It's tricky. There are few references in the pictures of the chute, and they are mostly crappy 72dpi onscreen images. They don't lend themselves well to cropping and expanding. I'll try Google images and set to view hi-res only, see what happens. It would help if someone posts a picture of a typical-sized paracord with a tape measure set across it to show the approximate width. Paracord used on a chute packed into an NB-6/8 I suppose. Be sure to post the RMS value of the average pixel density. Correct for spherical dpi focus position using El = D x (l/d)^2. Pixel ratios .... well you know all about that!

Ever run into somebody that's just not happy unless they're bitchin' about something or at someone... Well ya have now! So are we to conclude that the Great Air Tawrdo Parachutist Extraordinaire ... having seen the photos of the Amboy chute ... cant tell if its silk or twill or nylon or aluminum foil, or just not willing to share his expertise with the class because he has a grudge against 'education' and the "no skateboarding policy in the hallways'? You did note the thick lines - yes? Is this a case of Long Ears vs. Short Ears. Mustwe wait on an iceberg coming by for an answer from the gods and RobertMBlevins? Will the answer be: mm mmmm mm mmmmmmm mm ? I mean I think this is all hilarious!

Hmmm, so you arent willing to even give a guess having seen the photos. Geeeeeee. What would be the harm. I mean this "is" a discussion forum. But you came to editorialise? Thats fine. Everyone has a style. Lips pressed going mm mmmmm mmmm mm mm, just doesn't say much.