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As I've said before, there is a certain amount of witness testimony and evidence that MAY lead to the idea KC was involved. Do I know for sure? Not a chance. Oh! You mean the Kenny Fable. Fact is you were forced to do a switcheroo, as in witch-a-roo. Took three years! Now you talk as if it was always that way ? The bruised public and FBI remember it differently... Yes. "Wager Earner Sheeple" have a short memory. You exploit it well, in fact you rely on that. Great job Sham Wow. Keep the Kennu Fable alive while denying the Janet Fable, the Cook Fable, the Georger Fable, and all other people in your path including: the FBI Fable! Play it again Sham. "Wahe Earner Sheeple" like it!

Jo, Blevins is easy to figure out. As I have stated before, the real mystery on this thread is you. Who are you, what are you doing here, what are you getting out of it? And nothing you or Blevins are doing has anything to do with solving the Cooper hijacking. Robert99 Damn. I didn't realize I was so transparent and all. I'll respectfully disagree with your comment about 'doing nothing to help solve the Cooper hijacking,' but that's another story. Georger: It wasn't me who allegedly called you at 3:00 AM and blared music in your ear, although I have posted up a YouTube link here on the thread occasionally. I find it humorous that some folks here went ballistic over some of the comments in my Newsvine Cooperland article...by doing the things I pointed out were going on anyway. It's like someone going road-rage crazy after reading an article about road rage.

Anytime you're ready to return to a serious discussion on the Cooper case, without making stuff up, resorting to insults and personalities, you'll will do this, right? I don't think this is too much to ask, considering. If it means you wont be calling people at 3:00am blaring your Youtube music over the phone, the same Youtube music you've just posted a link to at DZ ... well then yes, Sister. Living under the thumb of RobertMBlevins 24/7 is sure fun! Never a moment's peace. 10,000 claims and complaints and special instructions to have to follow - He doesn't think this is too much to ask, considering. I should feel grateful to have been touched and illuminated by the great, RobertMBlevins. Like Geestman, Sluggo, Marla, Gray etal my flight response is kicking on ... all stalking RobertMBlevins because he is our friend and righteous and true.

Robert: You are referring to the annual celebration in my hometown called 'Auburn Days'. They give me the Auburn Avenue Theatre on the weekend of the festival. You are misinformed. I did a series of three slideshows on KC at the Auburn Avenue Theatre, the first year. The next two years, we passed out free refreshments all weekend instead, had NO displays of AB titles, and I invited OTHER Northwest authors to do readings and display THEIR books. Same thing we're doing this year. You just haven't a clue sometimes, sorry to say. After you started just making things up off the top of your head, your opinion no longer means much to me anyway. Huh!? No Blevins. I was referring to competition - word Meyer used in his post. You need a CardEx to keep track of your premonitions! Robert: Really? I think you need a separate folder on your computer to keep track of your statements. You said: As a matter of fact, it was the City Council who contacted me first about accepting the chairmanship for Adventures in Literature. Not the other way around. (For those who don't know, it's the two-day lit event held at the Auburn Avenue Theatre in Auburn, WA the second weekend of August each year. Saturday is NW writers. Sunday is the poets. There is a big Book Exchange and stuff for kids goes on, including readings and awards and an Art Contest sponsored by the school district. It's all free.) You're not fooling anybody, Georger. You've addressed that particular event at DZ many times. Many. And mostly badly. Which shows you know exactly zero about it. Maybe you should just post up another phony quote by Geoff Gray. A nice guy I might add, who doesn't need you to put words into his mouth. No way can I handle your blitzkrieg of bullshit above, except to note I was reply to Meyer, not you. My reference to competition (which you brought up) and someone going before a City Council had nothing to do with you or Auburn Washington!? It's personal information only you would have - yes!? Its just one more example of you redirecting things, so can create a straw man and go into tomorrow with a fresh set of smugness and personal problems somebody else is going to have to deal with ... I guess I am just one of your "wage earner sheeple" expendable victims. At least you haven't accused me of being an axe murderer yet! I should feel grateful you have spared me of that, so far!

Tonight I think I actually went completely off my ROCKER. . Yes you are.

Georger says in part: Robert: You are referring to the annual celebration in my hometown called 'Auburn Days'. They give me the Auburn Avenue Theatre on the weekend of the festival. You are misinformed. I did a series of three slideshows on KC at the Auburn Avenue Theatre, the first year. The next two years, we passed out free refreshments all weekend instead, had NO displays of AB titles, and I invited OTHER Northwest authors to do readings and display THEIR books. Same thing we're doing this year. You just haven't a clue sometimes, sorry to say. After you started just making things up off the top of your head, your opinion no longer means much to me anyway. Huh!? No Blevins. I was referring to competition - the word Meyer used in his post. You used it first - remember? You need a CardEx to keep track of your premonitions and your wild mental extrapolations! No wonder you see ufo's! Im guessing you see and hear a lot more than that ... Hell you see the "Reality Hotel". Can you describe it in less than 30,000 words? Is this Reality Hotel in Auburn Washington? Is that what you're driving at? "Wage earner sheeple" would like to know. Personally, I think you're just nuts. But who knows. Have you got the guest list at your Reality Hotel? Is Marla there?

Robert: I don't cry foul. But if you make stuff up (and you HAVE), I'm going to point it out and let people know what the truth is. You think you can just make up anything you wish about someone and no one's going to say anything? LOL. Welcome to the Reality Hotel.

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There RB goes again talking about "the main motivator at DZ" - reading people's minds I guess. How does he know what people are thinking? What brings them here? Its just one more Blevins stereotype. Since he keeps repeating it over and over he obviously feels inadequate, and what is anyone supposed to do about that!? Stop thinking? Thinking is half the reason for being here, if not more. And anyone who makes stuff up would feel threatened and keep denying it, accusing others instead, go on the offensive over and over and over again. As of the offense does not matter, or will go away in memory, or is just part of 'competing' ? We have been over this a billion times in response to Blevins latest tirade posted in the late night hours. JT speculates it may be hitting the bottle late every night? Geoff Gray calls it just 'making trouble each and every night ... in the snakepit'. Personally I don't think it has anything to do with competition. I think its just some one-man-band standing before the City Council chiding the city to dismiss the City Metropolitan Orchestra so one guy with a drum and an armpit flute and a Jew's harp can be the center of attention for a while, until he decides to take up nuclear physics next, and then it will be paleontology and ornithology ... So much for the guy in the Big Bird suit who cries foul at every play in the game! I want to hear the fat lady sing!

In Reply To Robert99: On my column at Newsvine, which has been visited more than two million times since 2007, I have a reputation for 'calling 'em like I see 'em' and I think you ignore the obvious evidence. For example, when you state that the main motivation at the Cooper DZ thread is 'cooperation'. That may have been true in the past, but it certainly isn't true now, and I am not the only one to blame for this. If it were, Georger, Meyer Louie, and myself would not have been banned by Quade. Meyer for name-calling, Georger for I don't know what, and yours truly because of a cartoon I posted once that was rather insulting to one of those two. Yes, it's true that there are people here who know much more about the Cooper case than I. And I have said this several times. But it's ALSO true that none of these experts have solved the case. And there is sometimes a double-standard going around here which I find not only irritating, but inherently unfair. Let me give an example: One one hand, some of these 'experts' were disputing the ownership of the parachutes used in the hijacking, i.e. Cossey or otherwise. And some of these same people questioned Cossey's reliability on testimony, since he's been known to play games with both callers, and the media. Then...when I called into question the identification of the Amboy chute, which was basically COSSEY'S i.d. on it...suddenly these same experts were willing to swallow Cossey's word on the Amboy chute without question. Why? Because I was the one who questioned it. This is a double-standard. The point is that although the chute may not have been a Cooper chute, research around here is often judged not on its content, but WHO presents it. Cooperation? A couple of the major posters on this thread put up smart-ass comments without addressing any point of the post they are commenting on. Double standard. You should see some of the comments that appear about the DZ thread on other websites. I have. The general consensus is that it is nothing except barely tolerable name-calling and fighting goes on around here. There is no peer pressure applied to put a halt to that, and so it continues. THIS is the REAL reason why people finally give up and either just read the posts and shake their heads, or go elsewhere. I took a lot of heat for questioning the Marla Fable, and the Janet Fable, and yet I saw no one who really supported those stories. Double standard. 'Being an intellectual creates a lot of questions and no answers...' Janis Joplin I rest my case. 'Being an intellectual creates a lot of questions and no answers...' Janis Joplin What case! ??? Janis Joplin? Let me remind you Mr Blevins, we are not the FBI! - we don't have the power to do anything specifically not the power to do what you want done. Go to the FBI with your bs and leave us out of your tantrums if you think you have a case..... We dont have the power to do anything except read your repetitive posts until we are blue in the face, then turn away for self preservation if necessary! You are beating a dead horse that died three years ago. Wake up! Nobody is to blame for your situation except yourself. Since you say you have millions of fans over at Newsvine - what are you doing here!?

Hey Janis! You can't force people to talk to you or pay attention to you if they chose not to. Why can't you get that through your head? Good night Irene - Let's all join in a going away song - Ol' man river, Dat ol' man river He mus'know sumpin' But don't say nuthin', He jes'keeps rollin' He keeps on rollin' along. He don' plant taters/tators, He don't plant cotton, An' dem dat plants'em is soon forgotten, But ol'man river, He jes keeps rollin'along. You an'me, we sweat an' strain, Body all achin' an' racket wid pain, Tote dat barge! Lif' dat bale! Git a little drunk An' you land in jail. Ah gits weary An' sick of tryin' Ah'm tired of livin' An' skeered of dyin', But ol' man river, He jes'keeps rolling' along. Ol' man river, Dat ol' man river He mus'know sumpin' But don't say nuthin', He jes'keeps rollin' He keeps on rollin' along.

Uhhhh, you have the wrong film! Crash as in Disc Channel documentary "Crash" ... crash testing a 727... It was previously discussed on this thread. I assumed most people have read this thread ... most people come here to read the thread on DB Cooper. A few come for other reasons with other motives and a barge load of previously unresolved personal issues having nothing to do with this thread or anyone here. http://dsc.discovery.com/tv-shows/curiosity/topics/discovery-channel-crashed-727.htm

Thanks Robert99, take a look at these two photo's, it appears the stairs are not locked in photo #2 Ask your friend if the stairs were locked as a safety precaution. In the movie CRASH, the stairs were locked for that reason.

Is there a Monty Python movie about that? What flavor of Jelly??? you asked for it!

Is there a Monty Python movie about that?

Nice photos. Can we assume the stairs are locked down in your photo? The stairs were not locked down in the test (photos).

and last but not least: What are Pancakes? Would a pancake flop down the stairs of a 727 in flight? How many pancakes would bring the stairs down? How many pancakes could parachute off a 727 for $100 and survivor to appear on Leno? Did Cooper mention pancakes? I'll bet we have an expert on pancakes here!

You sure have and I sincerely appreciate it. While some snipe and squablle, others work quietly in the background and try to actually analyse the evidence we do have. 377 some !? You mean RobertMBlevins? Not to mention you and Jo Weber ? Give us a break!

he wins the cigar! Pick the latter. water data is collected with gauges at gauge stations. you will see the gauge stations listed by number and sometimes a name... Hydrologic Gage No. 474645 eg. Hanford HG: 4645 etc In tables then listed as HG: 6353 with data in a column ... rows of columns for the different gauge stations. Pretty funny!

Simplicity At Work: Because you need baseline data to compare your conclusions, especially if they differ from the FBI's version. You say the FBI's flight path map might be wrong. Fine. Based on what? In order to compare something to something else, and prove that the original version is wrong, you need details on the original version that was created. What data was used? Was it accurate or not? HOW was it created? WHO is responsible for the conclusions? Without knowing those things, it's difficult to prove error. Especially the last two items. So, you believe in Original Sin? And in order to understand and verify the sin of today, one must first know and understand the sin of Adam and Eve? Do you actually think people here are in need of your "instruction" ? Who and what do you think you are and why are you lecturing people at Dropzone? Don't pull the boulders out of thine own eye! Your myopic lessons laid out here every day for almost three years, defines you! The troll is a troll and is addicted to his trolling nonsense, as if he was a genius, or just a common crazy person.

Well, after he and his family removed the money from the beach, without taking pictures of the evidence in place before doing so...then how do you expect to find out the position of the bills at the time they were found? Answer: You can't. The only source comes from the person who found them and removed them. Some of you folks around here are plenty smart, but sometimes lacking in common sense. . Once again your facts are wrong. Your conclusions wrong. And your attitude, as usual, sucks - My facts are wrong? Conclusions wrong? Okay, how? You kind of skipped over that part. Anytime you are ready to explore the case (once you get past your personal issues) you'll be sure to let us know, right? The personal issues are yours, very clearly. You have a personality disorder - directed at everyone, not just me. Facts: Brian played no role in removing the money. His parents (particularly the father, did that). Others 2 adults and 2 children including Brian) watched. The father and the mother gave a good description to the FBI of the orientation of the block of money. The rest you can read in your copy of the Palmer Report you say you have.

Well, after he and his family removed the money from the beach, without taking pictures of the evidence in place before doing so...then how do you expect to find out the position of the bills at the time they were found? Answer: You can't. The only source comes from the person who found them and removed them. Some of you folks around here are plenty smart, but sometimes lacking in common sense. . Once again your facts are wrong. Your conclusions wrong. And your attitude, as usual, sucks -

As usual I am not sure what Blevins is saying! Frankly it does not matter. He's been accused by writer of being a "failed writer" so evidently my experience re- Blevins is shared by at least a couple of other human beings! Blevins is totally irrelevant in any event. That is the humorous part, and well deserved. .

In the meantime, does anyone have any information available on the position of the money when it was found. That is, which way were the bills pointing, were the bundles side by side, etc.. Robert99 None that I know of. Except for this confusing claim that bills were in perfect alignment, ... while also being askew as per Tom's alignment reconstruc- tion diagram on his website. The only reference Brian and his mother could recall (when I asked) was 'flat side up more or less'. One bundle on top of the other facing upwards. Maybe Tom got a different reply ?

Thank you Oh Master! Your advice about "holes" is especially well placed and insightful, no doubt from personal experience..... with wind.