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Hey dipstick. Calm down. Cool your jealousy for once! Let me read the rest of today;s posts before you jump trying to scratch my eyes out ... you jealous vamp.

No doubt the basket ball hoop is a hold over, from when Cossey's wife played for the Celtics, while he watched from his wheel chair. Wasn't it Cossey's wife who said: "ich bin ein Berliner" the afternoon that Cossey jumped from a 727 in his wheelchair, over Berlin? I think there's a whole thread here at Dropzone about that ... ? Georger: Twisting Cossey possibly being MURDERED into a sick joke is really a new low for you. Have some sympathy, use some common sense please. My sincerest sympathies go out to Cossey's family. Uhhhh ... ain dit chu been chewhin his integrity a new asshole here - for years!? Play it again, Sham Wow Double Stannard. Of course it is sad. I am sorry for your loss! I know you were close to him, and his credibility. Take a front row seat at his funeral whydoncha! Be all teary eyed and Put on a good show. Take your cat and your beagle. What murder? I haven't read your 3 pages of combative accusational authoritative editorials yet ??? Why? Has your poor opinion of the living Cossey changed in death? Do you now believe he knew silk when he saw it, and you haven;t seen it? Have you had a new vision of Cossey?

No doubt the basket ball hoop is a hold over, from when Cossey's wife played for the Celtics, while he watched from his wheel chair. Wasn't it Cossey's wife who said: "ich bin ein Berliner" the afternoon that Cossey jumped from a 727 in his wheelchair, over Berlin? I think there's a whole thread here at Dropzone about that ... ?

Investigators tell KIRO 7 that the man's daughter found the body Friday night in the man's garage with a head wound. The man's daughter apparently had not heard from her father for several days, and went to check on him, West says. Property records show the man who owns the house is 71 year old Earl J. Cossey. - KIROTV News http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/local/police-woodinville-mans-death-suspicious/nXZLK/

Even if that were true some intelligent civilizations would have used regular RF for a while and we should be picking up a few coherent signals. I have a few tunnel diodes Georger. I can't make them be in two places at the same time though no matter what I chant. I've read Don Burnworth's patent. It evidences a sharp mind and a very deep knowledge of Boeing 727 flight control and electrical systems. Doesn't make him DBC but he sure knew 727s. His photo looks a lot like the FBI sketches. 377 http://www.forbes.com/sites/alexknapp/2013/04/10/the-space-station-could-be-the-next-frontier-of-quantum-communications/ The Forbes article speaks of Earth-based com and the proposed experiment at a max of 500KM. It's a bit farther to the stars. While you are at it, research out the amount of cosmic radiation currently being absorbed by our ISS astronauts. After I discovered the amount, I began to wonder about the shielding. Those folks should get a Purple Heart simply for agreeing to go up to the station. The average home owner gets far more in a month of exposure to radon gas, in some areas of the US...

I'm saying 'pass' on 'instantaneous electron imaging' until it either becomes reality or is proven possible. Never forget about C. It's always there, whether we like it or not. Quote “Das Prinzip der Konstanz der Lichtgeschwindigkeit kann nur insofern aufrechterhalten werden, als man sich auf für Raum-Zeitliche-Gebiete mit konstantem Gravitationspotential beschränkt.“ (“The principle of the constancy of the speed of light can be kept only when restricting it to spacetime regions with constant gravitational potential.”), ie. where the Gravitational Constant under the Standard Model applies - (Albert Einstein 1912)

Even if that were true some intelligent civilizations would have used regular RF for a while and we should be picking up a few coherent signals. I have a few tunnel diodes Georger. I can't make them be in two places at the same time though no matter what I chant. I've read Don Burnworth's patent. It evidences a sharp mind and a very deep knowledge of Boeing 727 flight control and electrical systems. Doesn't make him DBC but he sure knew 727s. His photo looks a lot like the FBI sketches. 377 http://www.forbes.com/sites/alexknapp/2013/04/10/the-space-station-could-be-the-next-frontier-of-quantum-communications/

I believe you mean Don Burnworth. Quote I will be brief. I think any advanced civilisation is using some type of quantum tunneling technology which makes radio obsolete. Instantaneous electron imaging? Who knows. I would love to have a scanner that copied it - whatever it is! It was nice to be able to have a few brief exchanges, for a change, that were thread-neutral. I want to go back and read your suspect over-view again ... 73!

Blevins says: By the way, the reason everyone's 'posting percentages' (LOL) are increasing is because there are far fewer visitors. I should quote back to you some of your previous remarks, that go back WEEKS now. Quote Nonsense. Fact #1: It was you started the bean counting. 2+ years ago. You question why with all of the post to this thread 'the case is not solved, as compared with your light speed work at solving the KC case!?' Then you shifted to me: 'Why with all of your posts have YOU not solved the case? Then you hit Jo: 'Why with all of your posts hasn't the Duane issue been settled?". Then you shifted to the FBI . . . Then you shifted to me again . . . Then you shifted to Sluggo . . . Then you shifted to the whole thread again . . . Farflung broke this unending cycle of yours asking: 'Why do you keep repeating your KC posts? Do you just copy what you wrote last week?' That was almost two years ago and that is the actual record. What did Georger say or do on your issue of bean counting during that several year period? Nothing until just two weeks ago. I wont repeat your posts - that would run pages! So leave me out of your distortion. I had nothing to do with YOUR bean counting until two weeks ago then finally got curious (at your bean counter reference to someone's posts) and I decided to try and add things up using website stats anyone can access. What does all of this prove? I'll be damned if I know! It's your stage and your performance. Very likely you will play it again ... NEW: You name drop a lot! You mention Gray, Sluggo, and even Himmelsbach in your Newsvine editorial concerning 'why people stay away from Dropzone'. Really!? I didn't know you knew Gray, Sluggo, and Himmelsbach that well ... to know what they are thinking ... about this thread, or anything else? I guess I was mistaken. Will the real Grays, Sluggos, and Himmelsbachs please stand up! Does JT have an opinion about your claim ? Last I knew JT was pretty close to Himmelsbach. Maybe JT can chime in? I don't know about others but it puzzles me a little that you throw these names around so freely as if you are speaking for these individuals? It's way over my head!

Copy and paste. Took me less than a minute. Here, troll.

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Yea that sewer from Portland to SF is a bitch! Duane knew it well! Glad the wheel chair made it through. Welcome home! How's the new wheel chair?

You could say the same thing about 160 meters OM. Maybe some ETs like a challenging frequency. I loved your Drake story. Does anybody know what happened to Farflung? I hope he is OK. I've been going over the Ted Braden materials. He sure had a motive and all the right stuff. Don Burnam is pretty interesting too. His photo is a decent match the the FBI sketches. He had been a 727 pilot and had VERY detailed knowledge of its systems, as evidenced by a US patent he obtained for an improvment to 727 electrical systems. He apparently figured out how to do something better and safer than Boeing did in their original design. 377 160M ? Noisy? That's exactly right. Ive had more fun on 160M through the years than just about any place else on the bands - slopers that stretched half a block through trees etc. We have 'serious' 160M ops north of here in WI and MI - the vertical crowd! Burnam? Will have to revisit him. BTW Drake is still alive. If you recall the whole reason for picking neutral H was the 'water hole' principle - not that that wavelength offered anything attractive in terms of propagation. I think more advanced technologies probably have their own 'water holes' and evolved away from radio long ago. I wonder about Farflung also - miss him.

Not a chance. We haven't even returned to the Moon, and that was more than four decades ago. A manned mission to Mars they say, won't happen until the 2030's, although they already know how to do it. Check-in Time at the Reality Hotel, Top Floor, Penthouse Suite: You are lucky to live in the time where you watched Armstrong land on the lunar surface, the Viking missions, Pioneer, Huygens, Venera, and a host of other exploratory efforts by the human race. Don't kid yourself. We will be remembered as the generation who gobbled the resources and trashed the planet. Hopefully, we can educate enough people to help us transition to a better world. Otherwise it's Soylent Green and Blade Runner for you. Interstellar travel coming soon? Don't count on it. But feel lucky You Were There when it all began.

Read every word of it Georger, in 1969. After reading it I was sure that we'd soon find narrow spectrum coherent radio signals from other worlds that had discovered RF comms many light years ago. Years later nothing credible has been detected even with huge advances in receivers and signal processing. I long for an ET CQ on the hydrogen channel. No joy. Not a peep. Just Poof. QSL? DE 377 QRZ Ive been thinking about an appropriate response - here it is: http://www.setileague.org/askdr/hydrogen.htm The H-channel is just too noisy. 76+% of the vibrational mass of the galaxy, not to mention galactic storms, resides right on that frequency! After many discussions with family and teachers, I wrote the famous Frank Drake a letter as a kid. And I advised him that he would never find anything the way he was going about his research. First of all, I said, 'you will have to point your antenna at the sky, not at the ground, as the magazine photo I am looking at shows'. Secondly, I said, 'you must run an electric wire to it! As it stands in this photo, there is no electric wire running to your antenna'! And thirdly, 'my teacher says space is very noisy. So you might be right in the first place, but instead of pointing that antenna at the ground, you should point at just one Hydrogen atom. I think one atom is enough and everyone can be heard coming through on that one atom alone.' Yours trully . . . and I included my telephone number. My mom provided the envelope and the stamp. About a month later the phone ran one evening during dinner, Mom got up to answer the phone and I heard some conversation, then she yelled back "Jerry. You have a phone call." I got up and went to the phone and here was Dr. Frank Drake. He thanked me for my letter and asked me where I got gotten the idea of pointing his "BIG" antenna at one atom. I just told him 'it makes sense to me'. He said, "I'm going try that as soon as I figure out how to do it." [/laugh] I went to school the next day and reported all of this in front of class. My classmates sat there in stunned silence. I took my seat a little bewildered. And I never heard from Frank Drake again. This is all absolutely true -

Read every word of it Georger, in 1969. After reading it I was sure that we'd soon find narrow spectrum coherent radio signals from other worlds that had discovered RF comms many light years ago. Years later nothing credible has been detected even with huge advances in receivers and signal processing. I long for an ET CQ on the hydrogen channel. No joy. Not a peep. Just Poof. QSL? DE 377 QRZ Hang in there...it's only what 100,000 light years to the other side of our neighborhood? Actually that's not quite true. Our galaxy is composed of stellar arms - see attached. We are in the Orion spur. You don't have to go that far to be in the stellar populations of nearby spurs and arms. In terms of current travel technology even those nearby distances are great. But that is going to change soon.

Read every word of it Georger, in 1969. After reading it I was sure that we'd soon find narrow spectrum coherent radio signals from other worlds that had discovered RF comms many light years ago. Years later nothing credible has been detected even with huge advances in receivers and signal processing. I long for an ET CQ on the hydrogen channel. No joy. Not a peep. Just Poof. QSL? DE 377 QRZ Someone maybe you mentioned the Wow signals back in this forum, years ago. Central issues are distance, time, technology, and galactic evolution. The nearest earth-like planets known so far are about 1000 ly distant. That's within some people's estimate of habitation radius based on molecular evolution in this region of the galaxy. Every weeks brings a revision of those stats - its an exciting time for people doing that work. Tom Kaye has actually done some minor work in this area ... but he is informed about these matters. Air's citation is very accurate and adds perspective. Much depends on the technology that people have managed to develop. Detection of a unique profile implying technology somewhere else could be the next big discovery ... something like that is well within our means to detect right now, at very great distances. The spectral profiles of last two earth-like planets discovered recently is being examined right now, with molecular signatures in mind.

me either -

Just makin' sure you comprehend the obvious... I think its BULL syndrome... certain people see a post by Jo or Blevens and its like waving the red cape.... their eyes fill with red and civility goes out the door. Ja, there is a lot of BULL going on around here. Have you seen any UFO's ?

Yeah, lenticular clouds have fooled a lot of folks into thinking they were viewing alien craft. If a real UFO phenomena existed you'd expect a dramatic rise in photo and video records of suspected UFOs with the advent of smart phones with cameras. That has not happened. 377 A kid I grew up with and went through Physics with wound up the director of Project Bluebook. Every time I would see the sob after our college years I would ask when he was going to Venus! He would laugh and say: "Can;t talk about it. It's classified"! That guy wound up a Sr VP in the Chase Manhattan Bank! Then worked with the British Govt.as an economist reorganising their power industry ... Now I'm here doing DB Cooper and he copies this website every now and then and will email with barbs I can;t repeat. He is a huge fan of Blevins and Airtwardo! Which one was your pal G? 2.1 The Captain Ruppelt era 2.1.1 Robertson panel 2.1.2 Aftermath of Robertson panel 2.2 The Captain Hardin era 2.3 The Captain Gregory era 2.4 The Major Friend era 2.5 The Major Quintanilla era 2.6 The Condon Committee 377 It's classified. Every attempt (by any of us) to get him to talk about Project Bluebook (among friends informally) failed. "It's classified". I was simultaneously pissed and proud of him. The only person I ever knew who took UFO's half seriously was Carl Sagan, not because he believed in them but because he wanted to get to the bottom of them. Try: Intelligent Life in the Universe, I.S. Shklovskii coauthor C. Sagan, Random House, 1966, ISBN 1-892803-02-X, 509 pgs (note: republished in 1998 by Emerson-Adams Press) I highly recommend this book, above.

Not outside box thinking at all ... outside the box thinking would include Leonard Euler's harmonic resonance theorems explaining thermodynamics in 1746, then turning around and saying the derivation must be 'particulate'! (statistical). Newtonian wave mechanics was dominating everyone's thoughts at the time. By 1900 the theory had become quantum mechanics. What makes anyone believe the Tena Bar money requires some extra-ordinary solution? Maybe 'that' expectation is the problem. Here's another example of out of the box thinking: AJ Clemente from Boston makes his TV news anchor debut in Mormon Utah by saying: "Hi folks. I'm used to thinking I'm from the east coast'" They fired him, poor guy. The Ingrams did not plant the Tena Bar money! If they did where did 'they' get it ?! They did try to keep several 'souvenirs' but we will glide by that - Not open for discussion this forum.

Yeah, lenticular clouds have fooled a lot of folks into thinking they were viewing alien craft. If a real UFO phenomena existed you'd expect a dramatic rise in photo and video records of suspected UFOs with the advent of smart phones with cameras. That has not happened. 377 A kid I grew up with and went through Physics with wound up the director of Project Bluebook. Every time I would see the sob after our college years I would ask when he was going to Venus! He would laugh and say: "Can;t talk about it. It's classified"! That guy wound up a Sr VP in the Chase Manhattan Bank! Then worked with the British Govt.as an economist reorganising their power industry ... Now I'm here doing DB Cooper and he copies this website every now and then and will email with barbs I can;t repeat. He is a huge fan of Blevins and Airtwardo!

Just makin' sure you comprehend the obvious... Yea right. A little hypocritical isn't it! Jim.

I don't believe in conspiracy theories without solid proof. The rest of your comments are pretty non-specific, and dance around the edges of THIS again. If you are speaking about Christiansen, the report is available and that's the best I have to say on that. There is nothing more to add. You make it difficult to be nice, you know...all those comments. You 'dont believe in conspiracy theories without solid proof'! Do you believe in solid proof without conspiracy theories? It appears from your work that 'solid proof' and 'conspiracy' is one-and-the-same! Specifically, you elevate 'anecdote' to the level of global evidence and proof. Blevins, you are an undisciplined mind. Thus the tag: SHAM WOW. You try to wallow out of that by saying its a personal thing. It's not personal. It's just a fact. Like a camel is not a light bulb! That kind of fact. Maybe you lack of humility and arrogance are a clue? You never take the time to learn anything - you already KNOW in a big way. Then a struggle ensues with people trying to convince 'camels are not light bulbs' ........ then you shuffle back after a monumental battle with all kinds of personal jabs from you and you say: "I never said THAT". Well yes you did. My feeling is you're just a willfully rebellious resistant personality, incapable of learning or doing constructive mental work, and don't care The lack of knowledge and discipline using knowledge follows ... like crack smoking leads to vascular constriction. Cause and effect. And you are too old to change or mess with. You are a statistic. Have a nice life.

You're rambling, IMHO. And I don't believe in conspiracy theories, unless there is positive proof of such a conspiracy. Well let me NOT ramble then, Your Pompous Sophistry. You since coming here have not evidenced one whit that you even KNOW what a conspiracy theory is, much less avoided using them! You claim associations that don't even exist except in your tactics. You then claim associations are fact and cause! Then you have the audacity to say: "I never said that." Tell your "wage earner sheeple" subjects where your infallibility begins and ends? Or is yours eternally noxious? When will you allow your subjects to partake of the fountain of Life, without your Infallible hands squeezing our gonads? Why are you Uber Alles!? Did Einstein miss something?