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Yeah. CISPA. Item number one from my 2007 article, 12 Things That Will Become Reality by 2020: Just thought I'd throw that out there, too. Hate to say 'I told you so' but...

And the answer is? (A) Three White Dwarfs. (B) Moma Don't Lao. (C) Cars on Wheels. (D) Throat Cancer (E) Think...Dream...Fly...Bye! Simon Says: Watch the VT02 Visual IR Thermometer compared to a traditional infrared thermometer. Mind Probes included. VT02 can answer all of your questions - no further need for a psychic or 20-questions.

Not a chance Jo. The ACLU would sue. I'd handle it pro bono. The Constitution is pretty tattered and battered but it's still got a bit of life left in it. But the sad truth Jo is that the FBI couldn't care less about this forum. It's of no real interest to them. 377 WANNA bet! This forum has the FBI a little off their game! Check your PM. Only in your dreamz. Sleep well.

Not a chance Jo. The ACLU would sue. I'd handle it pro bono. The Constitution is pretty tattered and battered but it's still got a bit of life left in it. But the sad truth Jo is that the FBI couldn't care less about this forum. It's of no real interest to them. 377 Agree 100%. They love it when all of the ineffectual loonies gather at one campfire throwing spears at each other. Publishing manifestos of their personal garbage and who DB Cooper was or was not, claiming to have the Palmer Report, scalding Marla with revelations of Truth, getting all lathered up about parachutes, and non-natural means! Not to mention claiming to know what the FBI is doing or not doing, or would do or not do! So far no group of first graders has ever robbed a bank or kidnapped a teacher and held her for ransom! I suppose there could be a first! We are only here searching for: The Truth!

Well thank you, Mr. Blevins. You have just answered all my questions, in one sentence. You know everything, amazing! I think I'll defer the communications issues to people who actually know something about it and know what they're talking about. It isn't settled.....read the thread when 377 and Farflung were talking about the possibilities. MeyerLouie [reply and 4 ply] Keep in mind: Hlevins says he has the Palmer Report! "Hell for all I know, he has the XXXing manual back there"!

Maybe someone has a point or two on the case they would like to explore. I am all for that. Get tired of reading my own posts quoted back to me with Sham Wow comments. [ree-ply & 4-ply] Rest assured Mr. Blrvin the case is being discussed "off this forum" by qualified individuals. Free of your interference. Keep monitoring for news - Thank you. G.

Why the fuck do you and several others get so fucking BUTTHURT over the word count of others... you are NOT being paid by the word count.. nor are they... E fucking NUFF with the bullshit. Its childish. You too georger.. yall are better than that.. or so I thought..how many people need to tell you???? You're God damned right it's childish! Especially since it's Blevins and Weber doing all the posting here - The rest of us come here and immediately are put in defense mode from Blevins or Weber! Your and Air's complaints are completely baseless, and you know it! I would be happy to sit here and say nothing while you and Airtwardo and Social Directors Blevins and Weber carry the bulk of the discussion, for a change. So begin! And let the rest of us off the hook for a change. I have nothing more to offer Amazon. Im just a sometime spectator here and have been that for years. Im busy trying to help get our Boston office back open after a horrendous week and what you self important are doing here isn't even on my current radar screen! Good luck defending your home turf here today. I will be back int own late tonight and will click open this url to see what new chaos 'yawl are up to here. I may post to defend myself from Blevins' latest charges and allegations whatever they are, or I may not post at all. But there will be a 99.9% chance nothing related to DB Cooper will have been posted here today ... on that all word-counters can count! Too-da-loo. Have a good day.

And Blevins is responsible (actually starts) about 80% of the trouble that has plagued this forum for almost 3 years - his post above (below) is a perfect example of it! He comes on here like some drunk in attack mode and won't take "NO" for answer and keeps swinging away ... eg below. WHY!? is anyone even having to deal with this? Re: [georger] Dropping the Case? [In reply to] Quote | Reply Georger says in part: Code: 'Why are you addressing me with this? All I and Jo asked for was the "date" of Gutt's letter - you refuse to give. Ive never said the FBI had closed the case! So why are you dragging me into this - again!...' Sorry, I didn't realize you were working with Jo. If you're asking for the date of the email from Agent Gutt saying the Cooper case isn't closed, this must mean you believe it is closed, right? Why else would you ask? Otherwise, why would you try to prove by the date of Gutt's mail that it is. Or maybe you aren't. Are you confused yet? LOL. Stop waffling and get real. Do you think the Seattle FBI has closed the case? LOL you can't question that statement and then suddenly say you didn't ask about it. You are caught between a rock and a hard place. You dislike me so much that you question me on points you already know to be true, because you don't like me quoting those facts. It's wacky, weird, and entertaining to a degree. But only I think that. Everyone else might be shaking their heads. Never let your feelings for someone affect your judgment. Again: Since you ask for the date of the email, does this mean you believe Seattle has dropped the case? Geez...you weasel so much on stuff I'd fall over in shock if you ever went official on anything.

Not really. My point was for you to PROVE the Seattle FBI has dropped the Cooper case. I have emails from them that say they haven't. There has been no announcement from them about doing this, contrary to Marla Cooper's statement that SA Curtis Eng told her the bureau was dropping the case. That's my point. Cant you READ! I already replied - take it or leave it. This has nothing to do with me. You damned pest.

As far as Georger's 'again and again' post back there...prove that the FBI has closed the Cooper case. Tell me you have more than just Marla's say-so on that. [ree-ply] Why are you addressing me with this? All I and Jo asked for was the "date" of Gutt's letter - you refuse to give. Ive never said the FBI had closed the case! So why are you dragging me into this - again! So here's a few more facts you ignore! RobertMBlevins Jan 26, 2011, 6:10 PM Re: [Farflung] ‘COOPER’ – The Movie [In reply to] Quote | Reply I'm finding it difficult to take this thread seriously anymore. And some folks have WAY too much time on their hands. 'Truth is like the sun. You can shut it out for a time, but it ain't goin' away.' Elvis Presley skyjack71 Jan 26, 2011, 5:03 PM Re: [377] Who ARE the FBI guys? [In reply to] Quote | Reply Hello 377: Now we have Blevins producting communications from Fred Gutt. So, your letter from Gutt you are still waving around dates clear back to early 2011 or to the winter of 2010! Today is Apirl 20th 2013 !! Why are you posting an old letter now as proof of some current condition (Georger) never said a damned thing about? What is your obsessive point if you have any? Arent you just wasting a lot of Airtwardo's time?

You are going back to a time prior to my having a computer in 2000. I did not come to the DZ until 2004 if I remember correctly. One thread (not a Cooper thread) helped me open the one before this and it was crashed early on by a lot of weird postings. Then Quade opened this one with a severe warning to everyone with the 1st post! In the archives are lots of old Cooper posts that never got to first base - I haven't looked to see if they are still there or not. Your sequence is about right. Pasternak's article on Duane didn't come out until the 7/24/00 issue of USN&WR. In any event Jo, it's all history now.

Ignore the stuff about Kenny. That wasn't the point of this post. I more refer to the first line of the message. (My italics) and the DATE of that OLD email (you are repeating again and again and again and again and again and again and again . . . . . ) ?

There would have been NO Cooper thread if It was not for Jo Weber. All of the other threads on the subject all failed in a short period of time as did the one before this on. I have tried to keep out the smart off the all remarks such as have been thrown at me by Meyer and Shutter. I was the only reason SafeCrack was here. I was here before Sluggo, I came for help and I listened and I told my side, but then the trolls came aboard and I had to make unnecessary posts. Carr - gave a lot of MIS-information and some very incorrect information. He created things like the Comic connection from what another poster commented about - and EVEN made it part of the FBI web site. Not able to keep up with all of the misnomers now - too many gray hairs and missing gray matter. [ree-ply & 4 ply}} Total nonsense and fabrication. Three Cooper forums existed prior to you here at Dropzone and YOU were not on any of them. You made the rounds of others forums and posting inquiries there from time to time prior to this thread. (Your posts are still there). Of the three Cooper threads open elsewhere without you before this thread existed, two of those are still alive - technically. One of those could be reactivated tomorrow with one email! A second and a third wait, unused. SafecrackingPLF wasn't on any of those! Snowmman and Sluggo etal were. What gave THIS Dropzone thread life was SA Ckret coming here. Others came here due to that, not because of YOU! So much for your fabricated self-serving account of Cooper thread history. A number of people have been researching Cooper for years long before you even had surfaced with Duane! Sluggo being one of those. SafeCrackingPLF wasn't even born yet! Had there been an internet back then there undoubtedly would have been threads back then, years before you even existed ... There were channels of communication between entities during the pre-internet years but none of that was public. In relative terms Jo, you are a recent arrival! Play it again, Sham Wow.

your effort was wasted entirely - no.1 is dead no.2 is being persued. names of both known. no.2;s id has been known since day-1. its over.

In case xombies here dont know - all hell has broken lose at MIT in Watertown outside Boston. Officers down, explosions, grenades! ... you might want to flip on CNN - may be related to Boston massacre.

Evidence - You do not even use your name - just an avatar! What proof does anyone here have regarding your skill level! you are the one on the burner, not me, quit using me as your excuse. did you change your name to skyjack71??? answer a question with a question, right Knoss, I mean Jo? Try: "Mrs. Cooper". She answers to that worldwide.

I do NOT even know if Shutter's simulated flight was actually authorized and his sources need to be posted. Do not demand of other what neither of you provide to the thread! [REE-PLY]]*9* The license comes in the box!

Evidence - You do not even use your name - just an avatar! What proof does anyone here have regarding your skill level! Well Jo, when it comes to skill level you are pretty low on the Popem Tole. My 3 year old grandchildren have better computer skills than you! Sorry.

Well, I'd say that since the FBI has interviewed over a thousand suspects and has investigated the case for more than four decades without result...(we won't count their 'we have a viable suspect' statement for Marla Cooper)...well, you can figure out the rest. No evidence? You're kidding, right. As far as contributions to the Cooper thread, you haven't contributed one darn thing lately that I have seen. Zip, zero, nada, negatory, zilch. __________________________________________________ And your KC report is evidence (I think that's what you're calling it) the FBI won't even waste time even opening. You've attached it, do you really think I'm going to read it? MeyerLouie Him couldn't even get KOIN to bite! Nor any other news media either. When I asked one official he said: "who"? Who is HIM?" I said, "the HIM that runs a book store in Seattle". "Never heard of that either"! Correlation is not Causation in any event. I doubt Him and Airtwardo even know what that means, much less ever heard of it before!

Well, I'd say that since the FBI has interviewed over a thousand suspects and has investigated the case for more than four decades without result...(we won't count their 'we have a viable suspect' statement for Marla Cooper)...well, you can figure out the rest. No evidence? You're kidding, right. As far as contributions to the Cooper thread, you haven't contributed one darn thing lately that I have seen. Zip, zero, nada, negatory, zilch. Correlation is not Causation. Trust me on this, troll. I doubt the correlation you assert is anything more than a wishful fabrication on your part, also.

Correlation is not Causation. Trust me on this, troll. I doubt the correlation you assert is anything more than a wishful fabrication on your part, also.

Good to hear from you! Yes. Agree with your sentiments - I dont think you have to worry about resource allocation! Hope all is well. Take care.

Stop driving up my booksales. Which is what you do when you discuss moir all the time. Or don't you realize when you keep coming down hard on someone...that outsiders sometimes start wondering what all the fuss is about? The only reason I said all this is to try and encourage people to get off talking about ME and get ONTO Cooper. That's why we're here, right? All the smart-ass comments and BS done in Blevins Attack mode actually has the OPPOSITE effect intended on the general public. Trust me on this. I think we should move back to Cooper. I've already presented everything I have on KC, so that's a dead subject to me unless someone brings him up first, or has a question. reply: Correlation is not Causation. Trust me on this, troll. I doubt the correlation you assert is anything more than a wishful fabrication on your part, also.

Georger replies: You said the same thing about Mike Simmons! Nothing has changed as far as Gray's comments to me about you are concerned except now we have spoken about you "twice" due to your ongoing manifesto here at DZ. Gray told me he hadn't sent you any email at all except for "5-word" (quick as possible) replies on one or two occasions. Gray says he has no working relationship "of any kind" with you - period. And Gray says specifically: "Blevins is just making trouble". The problem is yours in any event, Mr Blevins, and never had anything to do with me. You are the one who has swept all kinds of people into your various Manifestos and claims and accusations not just here but in all kinds of places and venues! Sluggo was correct. you are a legend in your own mind Get help. (we all know in advance you won't!) So play it again, Sham Wow. You are a troll .... with nothing. Robert comments: I am not a troll. I don't have a relationship with Geoff Gray, and according to him, he NEVER said the things you attributed to him regarding me. And who the hell is Mike Simmons? For the record, sir...THIS is the extent of my so-called relationship with Geoff Gray: (anything else is a product of your own mind, which is a fancy way of saying something else) 1) During the research phase, when Gray was creating his book, I had no contact with him. Because both Gray and Skipp Porteous were researching the same suspect (Christiansen), Porteous cut Gray from the information loop. Since I didn't live in New York, and had no way of contacting Gray, I was not made aware of this. 2) Into The Blast is released. Gray's book, which was due to be released that same spring, is suddenly pulled from the Crown Books upcoming titles list. I have no idea why this is, but I was disappointed, as I wanted to read it. 3) Gray's book is released that fall and I read it for the first time. I realize right away he doesn't know everything that Porteous and I know about Kenny Christiansen. I contact Porteous about it. Porteous admits he kept Gray out of the information loop regarding our investigation into Christiansen. 4) I am not happy about this because in my search for the truth on Christiansen, my choice would have been to provide Geoff Gray with everything we have on Kenny in order to make his book either more accurate, or perhaps to put some pieces of the puzzle into place. 5) Gray goes on a book tour with a stop at Third Place Books in Seattle. I take a copy of Blast with me to the event, along with a flash drive containing every single document, picture, and other evidence that was on the computers of Adventure Books regarding Christiansen. 6) Gray does a nice reading at Third Place Books. Afterward, I purchase another copy of Skyjack and Gray signs it. I sign a copy of Blast and give it to him. He invites me, former FBI agent Furhman (sic), and three other people to a sports bar next door to the bookstore. Gray buys everyone a beer and we sit around for about two hours discussing the case. 7) This is also when I drop my theory on the Tena Bar money on Furhman ('how did three or more bundles end up in the exact same spot with nothing else found'), who agrees the FBI never considered that a factor, although he says it makes sense. I give Gray the flash drive and tell him if he needs anything else, or has any questions about the files, I will be happy to provide that to him. He thanks me. 8) Over the next two years or so, I exchange maybe three emails with Gray. Mostly they are about the event in Portland. I tell him I won't be going because I don't have anything to add beyond Blast, and I don't want to listen to any more from Marla Cooper. The truth is I probably wouldn't have been able to make it to Portland and then back up to Ariel on the same day due to my work schedule. In any case, I go to Ariel but not to Portland. 9) Later, YOU (Georger) claim that Geoff Gray told you I was unstable, mentally unbalanced, etc. I knew this wasn't true, but I let it go for a while while you rambled on about it in posts. 10) Finally, I take some of your quotes that you attributed to Gray and send them to him in an email, using his link at his website. He comes back with an answer a week later: HE SAYS HE NEVER SAID THOSE THINGS. In my analysis, it's case closed. Since I only had personal contact with Gray the one time and just a few emails over a period of years with him, I knew your claims were bulls$%t anyway. Your pride however...forces you to continue perpetuating that lie. That is a personal problem on your part, and I think you are the one who needs help. Although, since I don't know you personally (just what I've read in Gray's book, and your posts here) I hesitate to say exactly WHAT help you require. I am reticent to post up Gray's email publicly, but if you'd like to see it yourself, free up your PM function or give it a rest. I like Gray and I have no wish to embarrass him, and I am not big on re-posting emails on people unless there is a VERY good reason for it. In this case, your BS on this isn't enough for me to do that. I have to balance out Gray's privacy on his emails with your false claims. Trust me, I've been tempted to say the hell with it more than once and post that email at Dropzone, but I won't. You want to see it yourself? You'll have to make it possible. I'm not embarrassing Gray just because you have a problem. There is a lesson here, but I doubt you'll figure it out on your own: Don't shove words into other peoples' mouths, especially if they are potentially slanderous. Someone might actually check with the source. To Everyone Else: My apologies for the length of the post, but I was tired of Georger flogging his 'Geoff Gray Said This About You' garbage, which I consider to be more of THIS. Maybe he will finally 'get it' and we can move on? uhhhh; it's you keeps bringing it up! Any normal person would have let it die a year ago! And it isn't going to change, every time you keep bringing it up! As Geoff says, quote: stop "causing trouble"! ps: I think based on your performance here you are a person who lives 'inside your own head' and aren't even fully connected to reality. I think you share that trait with Jo Weber ... that is my opinion. Sluggo said it a different way: "a legend in his own mind".

And you are quoting Geoff Gray again...falsely. This is the REAL problem, isn't it? You can't stand it that I quoted your comments to him for verification, and then he denied saying them. I still have his email on this. Ever since I caught you dead to rights on that, you haven't been the same. Well, too bad. Don't make up stuff and then cram it into other peoples' mouths and you won't get called out on it. You said the same thing about Mike Simmons! Nothing has changed as far as Gray's comments to me about you are concerned except now we have spoken about you "twice" due to your ongoing manifesto here at DZ. Gray told me he hadn't sent you any email at all except for "5-word" (quick as possible) replies on one or two occasions. Gray says he has no working relationship "of any kind" with you - period. And Gray says specifically: "Blevins is just making trouble". The problem is yours in any event, Mr Blevins, and never had anything to do with me. You are the one who has swept all kinds of people into your various Manifestos and claims and accusations not just here but in all kinds of places and venues! Sluggo was correct. you are a legend in your own mind Get help. (we all know in advance you won't!) So play it again, Sham Wow. You are a troll .... with nothing.