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So the title of the thread should be 'Waterboarding was used to further interrogate two terrorists that had previously provided useful information.' Good to see you're reading a neutral news source. That aricle was posted right next to "40 more years; how the dems will rule the next generation." -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

So all those things I listed don't matter? I'm just following the yellow dog? My livelihood doesn't depend on who's in office at all. So let's recap. I'm educated I have a list of reasons I liked her My livelihood doesn't depend on the right. Care to list a few more possible explanations? -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

You're basically saying that anyone who doesn't agree with you is stupid. I won't get into your personal situation and choice because that's the decision you made. I just find it odd that you admittedly didn't follow her politics, but we're automatically stupid for believing the things she stood for just because you don't. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

A rather vague answer. Give an example or two about policies or anything that you agree on with her. I don't know what you would call me (politically) I don't like to slot myself in any genre as I am open to suggestion at any point (as everyone should be). She seems very dipsy, not very well educated and we'll quite sheltered. She also made the republican party look bloody stupid in last years election, and was an embaressment to the intellegence of the United States of America. I'm sure many republican would agree with me on that one. These are my reasons for not liking her. What are the main reasons you like her for? My original answer was vague because I don't have a particular interest in debating why I like someone. That said, I like her traditional conservatve stances. Pro life, traditional marriage but vetoed a bill limiting homosexuals' rights, tax cuts, more drilling, funding for alternative energy, support for Israel, anti-bailout, reduced small business taxes, supports teaching evolution and intelligent design in school, believes in self-responsibility, lifetime NRA member, personal responsibility in health care, supports a strong military, no amnesty for illegals, supports the death penalty under certain circumstances, free-market over strict regulation, etc. Your response for not liking her was shallow and lacked any politcal references. You don't like her because you think she's a ditz (it's ditzy, not dipsy). Ok. Thats fine. Doesn't really say much beyond what was portrayed in the media. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

Closest thing I could find: If Chrysler and Fiat can work out an alliance, Chrysler would be run by a new board appointed by the U.S. government and Fiat, Chrysler's CEO said in a message to employees. That's all the article said and it was posted April 17th. Not sure if that was before the UAW was at 55%. I wonder if they get the approving vote on who the government decides to put on the board. Thats fucked up. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

seriously, what do you like about her? I'm a conservative so naturally a lot of our views and values line up. The reasons I like her are probably the same reasons you don't like her, politically speaking. I don't think she has what it takes to win the nomination or lead the party, though. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

Tough one. I'd stick with my original answer. Sending Carl to jail until it can be cleared up is vastly different than sending a loyal agent to be cut apart for days. Can the cell be eliminated when the two are brought home? -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

In the first scenario, I'd let poor Carl go to jail. A 90% chance of something catastrophic happening is too high to risk. Like Skyrad said, release him after the cell is brought down. The second scenario is different since there isn't information guaranteed about the future like the first scenario. The type of information being gathered from the top agent wasn't specified. Bring both sources home safe. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

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Wasn't that a key part of Obama's campaign? "I'm not a Republican like GW." I hope she isn't the 2012 candidate. The conservatives need a fresh start with a strong leader. I like her but don't think she'd win. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

You're damn right the last administration shouldn't have started the whole mess of bailouts. My response was to this: You all should be very proud of yourselves. Thanks for making the economic crisis worse, and longer than it would have been. Great work. The Republicans aren't in control anymore. Making the economic crisis worse lies in the $1.7T deficit and continual flushing of funds to private companies. The above statement attempts to blame it all on one party which is rediculous, as pointed out by the quote you posted. Although, as stated in my previous post, it falls right in line with Obama's "it wasn't me" plan. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

I'm not a Christian--but this is SC so I'm allowed to debate civilly :) --so I have a skydiving related question for you. When I sat in on the FJC at Skydance in Feb for my refresher training, one of the questions on the test was who has ultimate responsibility for my skydive. The answers were: (a) myself (b) my instructors (c) the state of California The correct answer, of course, is (a). But my question is--if you were an instructor and you had a student who wrote in a fourth answer saying "(d) Jesus Christ" has ultimate responsibility for their skydive and for ensuring they get a good canopy above their heads--how would you respond? I would say they totally missed the point of student training and understanding what being a Christian really means. At that point I would redirect back to emergency procedures. Good answer. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

Yes, there is tons of bitching about government intervetion in private business from the right. It doesn't matter if Bush started it. It's all wrong. Based on what? Their previous record of paying back loans after becoming productive again? How long do you propose the government prop them up? It's not a war when everyone is suffering together. Not all banks were saved and not all will survive just like not all car companies will fail or succeed. Some do, some don't. Hence capitalism. Even if that were true, how would that be a righty victory? Hey. Um. What the fuck are you talking about? The dems have been in control of congress for the past two years and now have 100% control in Washington. Although your loyal following of the new White House slogan (it wasn't me) is impressive, blaming "righties" for Chrysler's meltdown and subsequent loss of government handouts is laughable at best. The money never should've been given out to banks or automakes, by any President and Congress. Continuing to flush money down the tubes while pointing fingers at the other side (who has zero control by the way) does nothing but ruin what little credibility was left. I realize you're just ranting blindly against the righties, but tax cuts for the wealthy aren't on the table. I'm not sure if anyone told you, but the President and Congress are democratically controlled. Quadroupling the national debt and taking on trillions more in spending is currently on the agenda and that kind of work does take extra money that we don't have. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

Except Tamiflu. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

What? Seems to me that the models that are ultra skinny are the ones doing women's fashion/runway type stuff. The audience for that type of model is women! The female models for the male audience most definitely do not resemble a young boy - not at all. +1 -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

"Help! I need an adult! Blaming shit on Bush for 4 years didn't help at all. My half term as a Senator wasn't even close to preparing me for this. At least Olberman and Chavez still love me." -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

ONE hot summer’s day a Fox was strolling through an orchard till he came to a bunch of Grapes just ripening on a vine which had been trained over a lofty branch. “Just the things to quench my thirst,” quoth he. Drawing back a few paces, he took a run and a jump, and just missed the bunch. Turning round again with a One, Two, Three, he jumped up, but with no greater success. Again and again he tried after the tempting morsel, but at last had to give it up, and walked away with his nose in the air, saying: “I am sure they are sour.” If he was a working fox he might have been clever and dragged something towards the grapes and reached higher. Your story is useless and further demonstrates your blind loyalty to the Democratic party. Or he'd go lay under a tree not doing anything for a while. When someone determined enough came along and picked the grapes, he'd demand that "his share" be handed to him. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

Gallup Rasmussen on actual topic of thread. RCP Polling Report It's certainly an improvement from the past few years, but the AP is jumping pretty far ahead of itself. Especially considering a growing number think the best days are behind us, congressional approval is still in the 30s, and the President's approval (while still positive) has dropped 20-25 points since election day (depending on poll of course). Support for free market economics has also jumped significantly since December, but that's an entirely different topic. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

I'd rather die of the swine flu than be left to that world. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

Until, of course, they're rewritten or a new precedent is set... a vote is overturned, old laws are considered outdated or "not progressive..." Take your pick. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

You must have missed the thread in which it was pointed out that such expenses are covered by the Obamas, not the taxpayers. Shhh he is on a roll playing the good little right wing attack radio parrot..... we don't want to confuse polly with some facts now would we. What facts do you have that his trip to promote responsible living wasn't more wasteful than any one person over the course of a decade? -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

Pssst.. he is the head of a country.... its his job to see and be seen Even I did not begrudge the moron from Texas his trips to Texas.. and all over the world. Agreed, but that's not the issue. Do as I say, not as I do is the problem. It's an even bigger problem if taxes and the price of goods increases because of government mandated environmental regulations. If they want to play on yachts or waste thousands of gallons of fuel for a photo op, that's fine with me. Just don't bitch about my F-150 or cry about the polar bears. I 100% guarantee he fucked up the environment more on that one trip than my entire family will for the next 5-10 years. (Speaking in terms of average fuel use, engine efficiency, and money spent on food and lodging.) -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

Most of the main points have been hit. I personally don't see a huge deal with it. What's funny to me is that the left called Bush a puppet for so many years. Now their guy can't put together a 30 second introduction without someone writing if for him and literally holding it right in front of his eyes. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

If inferred means imagined then that would shoot a lot of holes in a lot of scientific theories. But I guess that goes back to how you view homosexuality. People who believe homosexuals choose that lifestyle wouldn't compare a life choice to a non-choice such as race. Nore is anyone saying homosexuals should be persecuted or enslaved. I'm willing to bet that a law banning inter-racial marriage wouldn't even make it to the floor. The prop 8 vote, whether you're for or against it, proves there are millions of people who still question the legality of homosexual marriage. This girl is not in the minority and comparing her answer to inter-racial marriage would be like comaring homosexual marriage to beastiality. You're taking it to the extreme to try and belittle people who don't agree with you. The question Hilton asked was only posed so he could hear one answer. If he was willing to ask the question then he should've been open minded enough to accept the answer. He was attempting to use the extremely public forum to promote his own cause and it backfired. All he had left was a little tantrum on his blog. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

she also said 'I think that I believe' It was her belief. She wasn't pressing it on anyone or saying laws should be in place to regulate it. She didn't say, "in my country it should be illegal." -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.