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True, but she didn't just go shooting off her mouth. She was asked a one-answer question in an extremely public forum. She answered honestly based on her beliefs with no hate or bigotry. If she was asked, "Tell us your thoughts on life" and she said "I hate gay people" then everyone would have plenty of reason to be upset. She was asked her opinion (ie. pigeon holed) by some off the wall tantrum throwing blogger. The irony of course being that the open minded progressives are destroying someone because they have different beliefs. And 40 years ago.. some beauty pagent type could have said something about interracial marriage..pro or con.... In NY there would be a similar response to this situation.. or could have gotten a standing ovation in George Wallaces Georgia. Times change.. only the groups that its ok to discriminate against really changes and it always seems that "conservatives" are the ones discriminating. She said she thinks it's great they get to choose a lifestyle but the way she was raised was that the definition of marriage is between one man and one woman. She didn't say they couldn't drink from the same water fountain or should be hung from a tree. She didn't say they shouldn't be given rights or even that the government should play a role in banning marriage. She might even be in favor of granting equal rights under civil union laws recognized by the government. Who knows? All she said was that she was raised to believe marriage is one man and one woman. Perez threw a temper tantrum because he didn't like someone else's opinion to an obviously bias question. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

If I asked you if you support gay marriage and you said yes, then I went to the DZ and talked about what a stupid fucking idiot you were... how would that be accepted? You don't think anyone on the DZ would call me homophobic? He didn't like her opinion and opined that she was a stupid fucking idiot. I inferred the rest. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

Great idea. Lets give them tons of unchecked powers. They are after our best interest all the time, obviously. Re-read my post real quick. I'm not in favor of any undue power for cops. I've had far, far more unpleasant and unnecessary encounters with police than helpful ones. My questioning (apart from devil's advocate) comes from people preaching about gun control, lowering crime rates, or securing border areas, but then limiting their authority. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

My fault for not clarifying. The border patrol has randomly set up check points all over this area. Most of the time we just stop, they ask if we're citizens, we say 'si,' and they let us go. What gives them the right to pull us over and could they search us if they wanted to? If not, or I refused, they just keep me there until a warrant is obtained? What right do they have to keep me there if I wasn't breaking the law to justify being stopped in the first place? -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

True, but she didn't just go shooting off her mouth. She was asked a one-answer question in an extremely public forum. She answered honestly based on her beliefs with no hate or bigotry. If she was asked, "Tell us your thoughts on life" and she said "I hate gay people" then everyone would have plenty of reason to be upset. She was asked her opinion (ie. pigeon holed) by some off the wall tantrum throwing blogger. The irony of course being that the open minded progressives are destroying someone because they have different beliefs. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

Um - yes. That's kinda what the 4th amendment is about. If a person gives no suspicion of wrongdoing, that person is free from search and seizure. What constitues wrong doing, besides speeding or other traffic violations? If searches are not allowed for people outwardly obeying the law, why can border patrol check points stop us on any given road here? -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

Why is that not reasonable? Because we're making more laws (or decisions) to suppress the police and enable the criminal. I'm not saying cops should be able to search whatever, whenever. It's just interesting to me that border security and movement of guns and drugs is such a huge topic, but the decision was made (in a border state no less) to restrict searches. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

That's exactly what he said. She should've flat out lied to tell a heterophobic blogger what he wanted to hear. She never said she thought anyone should be killed. People are just reaching for anything they can to make a conservative look bad for their opinions. There is overwhelming evidence that the current crop of "conservatives" have done a splendid job of doing that to themselves over the last few years, without any help from moderates or leftists. Conservatives look bad for their opinions, therefore its fine to ridicule this girl for her beliefs and the way she was raised. Really? -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

So people carrying drugs or guns can just put them in the trunk, drive the speed limit, and have no chance of being caught unless they get in a wreck or something like that? How long would it take to get a warrant and what evidence would be needed? Will this diminish the meaning of a warrant if they're being handed out many more times a day? -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

And the 30% approval of congress does not. Yes. Thank you. That was my point. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

That's exactly what he said. She should've flat out lied to tell a heterophobic blogger what he wanted to hear. She never said she thought anyone should be killed. People are just reaching for anything they can to make a conservative look bad for their opinions. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

Without question. If you don't possess the common sense to understand the crowd your speaking to - at huge detriment to your reputation and career, you're an idiot. A proud graduate of the Steve Stiffler school of public speaking, but still an idiot. Very sad. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

Unfortunately it doesn't take a majority. According to Rasmussen, the President's rating has fallen from a +28 to a +2 since election day and 52% of those polled are concerned the dems are going to do too much. Congressional approval is in the low 30's. So called "representatives" can do whatever they like in Washington with or without public approval. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

The continued, and often heated, debated over gay marriage is not softball and would take much longer than her time allowed. Especially if she got into civil unions and liberties vs the actual word or religious meaning of marriage. Perez Hilton intentionally pigeon holed her with a question that apparently only had one possible answer. So, in your opinion, she should sell out her beliefs in order to fit in with the crowd. Very inspiring. I find it concerning that you, or anyone for that matter, would have more respect for someone who refused to stick by their beliefs regardless of whether you agree of not. He made repeated hateful and derrogatory remarks on the set and once or twice in public. Ms California said she simply disagreed with gay marriage. Where does it say that in the Bible and where in her answer did she say anything close to that? An idiot because she didn't pander to the crowd at a beauty pageant....?? From reading the articles and watching the rediculous fallout, she was about the only one in the room who wasn't an idiot. She stuck to her beliefs and gave an honest opinion. There was no hate, calls for execution, or ignorance displayed. She just simply disagreed with a one-answer question and is being fried for her beliefs. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

I would consider that a reasonable request if the bank held notes on all of your neighbor's houses, your mercury painted furniture was full of termites and bedbugs, the woman you're living with has the bubonic plague and she's sharing her fleas with your rabid dog which you allow to run freely. Which is a completely irrelevant analogy. The banks are paying back the money because they don't need it. They think their companies are fine and some are posting record gains. But don't forget that G-S lost over $3 billion in the last quarter of 2008, and $1.2B in December alone.. So they lost money last year which means the government can now (4 months later) clean house and not accept the money back? -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

That didn't take long to start blaming other people. The article was about illegal immigrants taking money and you somehow manage to turn it into legal taxpayers' fault. "Legal taxpayers" don't cheat on their taxes. Funny how you excuse the rich for robbing the government of $300 billion while getting all upset about 1% of that amount going to illegal aliens. If they're "robbing the government" (which is a fucking hilarious statement since the government is taking money out of their pockets at a higher rate than any other group in the country) then they should be prosecuted for tax evasion. If they have legit write offs or legal offshore accounts then that's their business. Just because you dont agree doesn't necessarily mean its illegal. If it's illegal, prosecute. If its not, stop whining. Funny how you excuse the illegal immigrants but are willing to pan fry the rich (and by rich, you mostly mean small business owners). -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

80% isn't enough for them to pay? I suppose you'd like them to just go ahead and cover the whole thing. I'm gunna go out on a limb and say we pay more because 40% of the population doesn't pay anything. Not because a company writes off a few more business expenses than you agree with. The people breaking the law in the OP were illegal immigrants, but that would be too easy. Quick, start blaming the rich guys because 80% of the tax burden isn't enough. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

That didn't take long to start blaming other people. The article was about illegal immigrants taking money and you somehow manage to turn it into legal taxpayers' fault. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

I would consider that a reasonable request if the bank held notes on all of your neighbor's houses, your mercury painted furniture was full of termites and bedbugs, the woman you're living with has the bubonic plague and she's sharing her fleas with your rabid dog which you allow to run freely. Which is a completely irrelevant analogy. The banks are paying back the money because they don't need it. They think their companies are fine and some are posting record gains. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

The fear is being generated as quickly as Gibbs can put a sentence together. It's just about the economy and not terrorists. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

Austin is a great city. 6th street is always a good time. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

Not when the left is making the list. With or without evidence... -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

"threats from white supremacist and violent anti-government groups during 2009 have been largely rhetorical and have not indicated plans to carry out violent acts." You told us it was all a bunch of rhetoric with no real threat? Good call. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

The current $83B he's seeking is his doing. The very procedure he frequently critisized during his campaign. Unless it's Obama's fault. Then blame someone else. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.

Apparently you missed my post #14, or maybe just conveniently ignored it. Oh, well; as long as you got in a gratuitous lib-bash, all is right with the world. Unwind thy panties. I said some on here. I didn't say you. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life.