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Jo, That is completely illogical. This is 2009. Nothing about Cooper affects national security today. The FBI would LOVE to solve NORJACK. Ckret would jump at the chance. You claim you were married to Cooper yet you have failed to produce one bit of irrefutable evidence to support that claim. Blaming the FBI is absurd. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Happy birthday Bill. I still watch your stunt film now and then. Scares me "chuteless" every time. Glad you lived through all your youthful madness and can look back with a big grin. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Jo, That's just a wild guess of yours. You have no way of knowing that. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Jo, You have told a believable account of Duane meeting with some shady characters. They may very well have had organized crime connections. You have explained that you used the term Mafia loosely. OK. Nothing in your post connects any of this with parachuting. How about substantiating your claim? 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

How does a Mafia connection lead to learning how to jump? I've been skydiving for over four decades and have never heard even a rumor of Mafia involvement in any aspect of parachuting. Some skydivers were drug smugglers but they weren't Mafiosos. Please explain Jo. You made a claim now substantiate it. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

When lamenting to my daughter about how when I was her age (17), 60 seemed ancient to me, she responded: "Relax Dad, 60 is the new 59." 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Thanks Orange!

At the time of your first hit, did you ever think you would get addicted? 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Ok, back to reality. Here is some video of jumps from the Perris DC 9-21 jet jumpship. I jumped this beautiful plane in 2006 at WFFC. Currently it is having FAA hassles over engine times. Normally overhaul limits are determined by engine operating hours. Calendar time is never an issue in airline service. Apparently after so many years, regardless of engine hours, a DC 9 engine is required to be overhauled, a VERY VERY expensive proposition. Someone with a grain of sanity ought to give them a waiver, but sanity and common sense in US Govt Admin agencies? Fat chance... Enjoy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG2sVLSippc&feature=player_embedded# 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Orange wrote; Ouch, just turned 60. I guess I qualify to opine here. I wore combat boots jumping rounds until I could afford French Paraboots. I think the French boots helped a little in preventing ankle twists/sprains. I have found that old Nike Air running shoes, before they reduced the spring force, were ideal for jumping. You could jump onto your heels from a few feet up and not feel any sharp impact. They were GREAT shock aborbers. Now they are squishier and bottom out too soon on a high impact jump. No, its not that I have put on weight. I have a pair of the older ones that I wear ONLY for jumping as the new ones suck. My old ones are just about shot so I'll have to use the inferior new ones soon. Nice thing about ram air chutes is that if you fly conservative landings and flare properly, it almost doesnt matter what shoes you are wearing, as the vertical impact force is insignificant. With my old porous C9 round, every single landing was brutally hard. It is a miracle I didnt break any bones. I bet I'd be an inch taller if I had been able to afford a ParaCommander when I started jumping. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Titre du document / Document title Braced for impact : Reducing military paratroopers' ankle sprains using outside-the-boot braces Auteur(s) / Author(s) AMOROSO P. J. (1) ; RYAN J. B. (2) ; BICKLEY B. (3) ; LEITSCHUH P. (4) ; TAYLOR D. C. (5) ; JONES B. H. (6) ; Affiliation(s) du ou des auteurs / Author(s) Affiliation(s) (1) U.S. Army Research Institute of Environmental Medicine, Natick, Massachusetts, ETATS-UNIS (2) William Clay Ford Center for Athletic Medicine, Detroit, Michigan, ETATS-UNIS (3) Ireland Community Hospital, Fort Knox, Kentucky, ETATS-UNIS (4) William Beaumont Army Medical Center, El Paso, Texas, ETATS-UNIS (5) Keller Army Community Hospital, West Point, New York, ETATS-UNIS (6) U.S. Army Center for Health Promotion and Preventive Medicine, Aberdeen Proving Ground, Maryland, ETATS-UNIS Résumé / Abstract Background: Ankle injuries account for 30 to 60% of all parachuting injuries. This study was designed to determine if outside-the-boot ankle braces could reduce ankle sprains during Army paratrooper training. Methods: The randomized trial involved 777 volunteers from the U.S. Army Airborne School, Fort Benning, Ga. Of this group, 745 completed all study requirements (369 brace-wearers and 376 non-brace-wearers). Each volunteer made five parachute jumps, for a total of 3,674 jumps. Results: The incidence of inversion ankle sprains was 1.9% in non-brace-wearers and 0.3% in brace-wearers (risk ratio, 6.9; p = 0.04). Other injuries appeared unaffected by the brace. Overall, 5.3% of the non-brace group and 4.6% of the brace group experienced at least one injury. The risk ratio for injured individuals was 1.2:1 (non-brace to brace groups; p = 0.65). Conclusion: Inversion ankle sprains during parachute training can be significantly reduced by using an outside-the-boot ankle brace, with no increase in risk for other injuries. Revue / Journal Title The Journal of trauma ISSN 0022-5282 CODEN JOTRA5 Source / Source Congrès Annual Meeting of the Eastern Association for the Surgery of Trauma No11, Sanibel, Florida , ETATS-UNIS (14/01/1998) 1998, vol. 45, no 3, pp. 429-445 (28 ref.), pp. 575-580 Langue / Language Anglais Editeur / Publisher Lippincott Williams & Wilkins, Baltimore, MD, ETATS-UNIS (1961) (Revue) Mots-clés anglais / English Keywords Parachuting ; Military ; Prevention ; Sprain ; Ankle ; Technical equipment ; Orthosis ; Technique ; Treatment ; Human ; Lower limb ; Diseases of the osteoarticular system ; Trauma ; Orthopedic treatment ; Mots-clés français / French Keywords Parachutisme ; Militaire ; Prévention ; Entorse ; Cheville ; Matériel technique ; Orthèse ; Technique ; Traitement ; Homme ; Membre inférieur ; Système ostéoarticulaire pathologie ; Traumatisme ; Traitement orthopédique ; Mots-clés espagnols / Spanish Keywords Paracaidismo ; Militar ; Prevención ; Esguince ; Tobillo ; Equipo técnico ; Ortesis ; Técnica ; Tratamiento ; Hombre ; Miembro inferior ; Sistema osteoarticular patología ; Traumatismo ; Tratamiento ortopédico ; Localisation / Location INIST-CNRS, Cote INIST : 507, 35400007035729.0250 Nº notice refdoc (ud4) : 2404970 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Jo wrote: Yes, I do. Especially if he looked like Duane Weber who bore very little resemblance to the FBI sketches and physical description that were republished after the Ingram money find. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

How did Norjack hurt Boeing or hurt anyone who allegedly cheated Duane out of his inheritance? Was the motive payback/revenge or just money? Was Duane really CHEATED out of his inheritance and if so, how and by who? Is it possible that the deceased person decided before death that Duane was not a worthy recipient of the estate assets and just amended the will accordingly? That isnt cheating. Even if Duane had some tenuous Boeing tech connections and an inheritance grudge that is hardly even circumstantial proof that he was Cooper. If Duane went to war in place of another and trained as a paratrooper, that would certainly be of interest, but I have seen not a scintella of proof that this ever happened. Jo, you are 100% sure Duane was Cooper and spin every ambiguous piece of evidence in a way to make it support your beliefs. There is a ton of evidence that casts doubt on your theory but you choose to see only what supports it. Show us one piece of hard evidence that unequivocally supports your theory, just one. A crisp undamaged Cooper twenty would definitely do the job. So would proof that the child photo was Tina's and was given to Cooper during the hijack. None of that will be forthcoming, we can bank on that. We will see an endless list of ambiguous coincidences, and even those will have been carefully selected. I don't think Duane had the physical capability to do Norjack in 1971 or the knowledge or experience to pull it off successfully. I believe you are sincere in your beliefs and your recounting of Duane's confession, but I dont think Duane really was Cooper. It puzzles me why he told you he was, but he was a complicated guy and must have had his reasons. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Jo, Nobody suspected Duane was Cooper at the time that show aired. From what I know of its general content, nothing in that TV show or any stories about the money find would have alerted his co-workers to suspect that Duane was Cooper. Why resign? Why leave? Why go through a new pre hire reference and background check when you already have a good job? Abruptly resigning would only draw attention to Duane and seem odd. Staying in place sounds like it would have been the smartest move if Duane were indeed Dan Cooper. You see Duane's resignation and abrupt departure as indicators that he was Cooper. I just dont see it your way at all. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

You can't have it both ways Jo. The CIA was all about prostitutes and whatever else it took to "get the job done." If Duane was a Bay of Pigs and political assassination spook or junior spook he had plenty of professional contact with prostitutes and maybe some off the clock contact as well. The fact that he never mentioned prostitutes to you just shows he cared about your feelings. In MK Ultra the CIA made extensive use of prostitutes. Bruce has all the details. Snowmman industries has taken away the CIA supply contract from Heidi Fleiss. Her recent legal problems are not a coincidence. The pen cam flash memories from Heidi's "employees" have all been dowloaded, catalogued and discreetly emailed to certain key government officials. They have assured Snowmman through replies to blind email boxes that SI needn't worry about export control laws, tax audits or parking tickets in DC. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

and I promise you that he might have. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Jo, Even if Duane were a good swimmer I'd give him a 99% chance of drowning if he landed in deep water that night. There were no Capewell canopy releases on the Navy bail out rig Cooper jumped. To rid yourself of the canopy you'd have to get completely out if the harness which is really hard to do at night in water with loads on the harness webbing. I think Jerry will agree that even a very fit jumper would have a hard time under those circumstances. Guru and other jumpers, your thoughts?I say a river landing was almost certainly fatal if in deep water more than a few feet from shore. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Take note. Snow has admitted that Ckret was right about something. Could Snow be mellowing with age? Or is it something else? A now deceased old time commercial pilot friend told me that during his more than 24,000 hours aloft he witnessed many incidents in which all three cockpit crew members were dozing. He'd wake up and notice that his co pilot and FE were asleep. It happened primarily on trans Pacific cargo flights on slow propliners. Their only ground contact was HF radio which had sporadic propagation. No huge deal if they missed one or two checkpoint calls. The autopilot did it's job and nothing bad happened. 377 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Jo The "feeling" of a bank has nothing to do with the kind of plane you are riding in. It is determined by physics. At a given speed and turn and roll rates, a 20 degree bank in a 727 feels the same as in a Lear Jet 24 making the same maneuver. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Yeah, what the professor said. They must have taught me that dialectric constant stuff in EE school, but I obviously forgot. Just give me a few minutes with Maxwell's equations and I'll derive it. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Fighter pilots want to engage in successful aerial combat. If they don't prove their value, there will be no pilot seats in future fighters. Congress is starting to question whether you really need a human in the cockpit. No fighter pilot wants to shoot down an airliner, but a kill is a kill. Not too many Migs to engage these days. "yeah, two Airbus 320s that wouldn't answer ATC, a dope running Avianca Cargo 767 and a suspicious MD 80. One more and I'm an ace." 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Now that they have your IP address all you need to do is inquire about training camps and you'll be the next Zazi. Pre-terrorism must be stopped. Religion... Could Cooper have had a religious grudge or motive? Tina sought refuge in religion, but refuge from what? Naww, Cooper was just a crook. Occam told me to stop getting needlessly complex. Isn't it amazing that Bin Laden still runs free? Last time I checked the reward was over $30,000,000.00. I thought for that much money nobody was safe from betrayal. I was wrong. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

That side door jump from the Airbus was a lot tougher than a 727 ventral door exit. Tell us about your jumper Snow? How much did SI pay him? Was Sherwin Williams involved? 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Rounds will pound as I say from over a hundred "firm arrival" landings under a very porous but affordable C9 cheapo. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

I think it has to do with density differences between air and target. I have seen birds hundreds of times at distances exceeding 3 miles on 5 KW boat X band radars. Furnuno sells a so called BIRD RADAR (S band) that are used by tuna boats to spot bird flocks at distances of over 20 miles. I spoke with a bird researcher in Hawaii who was using Furuno radar to track bird movements. He said that he regularly got returns from insect swarms at distances of several miles when the air was calm. He figured it out by observing and corellating close range echos visually with evening insect swarms. Most people would think a Pelican to be an ideal stealth aircraft, but they have a very big RCS and show up great on simple low power (2-5KW) boat radars. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.