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True that it can happen, but I think it was a tasteless joke. Just tell her it upset you. I am sure that you recognize that there are inherent dangers of particpating in skydiving. That and quit pestering each other about it. I doubt she is going to convince you to quit and I doubt your going to convince her to go. I imagine it was her way of saying quit bugging me about skydiving. ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

I think that too many styles of music are thrown into the techno category. There is also a lot of really crappy techno music out there! Everyone and their brother thinks that they can produce good music with a computer which is soo very much not true. That said, I think that the music used in skydiving videos should be mixed up as much as anything else. Too much of even a good thing normally ends up not being a good thing. It also has a lot to do with the mood you want to set and the footage you have. I can think of a lot of good tracks that would make for good skydiving background music but I don't have the video that would fit. ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

No no... thats One to change the bulb and one to take a second video angle ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

A few of us tried the GoFast+Vodka with some of the case of GoFast he won at a boogie. Didn't much care for it. For me at least mixed with some form of Vodka it has to be Redbull. It seemed a little too much like smarties. (Don't get me wrong we weren't about to let that bottle of absolut go to waste ) I won't just drink either of them alone because I already have a caffine addiction from drinking too much Mtn. Dew. I will get headaches if I don't have at least a 20oz a day. Have been trying to cut back but its hard. ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

I think that a lot of the problems stem from how much attention you can pay to who is landing when. There is a lot to be looking out for under canopy be it the first man down or others flying around. When you compound that with situations that occur at many smaller DZ where swoopers and everyone else are somewhat mixed it becomes hard to determine what is the right way to land. Who is the first one down? Did everyone else see the "right" first man down? Ok now someone has landed what should my pattern be? Where am I in the pattern? Someone just landed wrong is everyone else going to do that too because they didn't see what the FMD did? Or maybe I have to start my pattern before the FMD is on the ground, well where to set up, is he gonna land that way or turn some? The point I am making is there is a ton of variables in the FMD situation and it leads to lots of confusion. You have to be evaluating all this stuff and still accomplish whatever goals you have set for the canopy flight on every jump. Should the average skydiver be able to do this? Yes, but I worry more about the one guy that fucks up and kills me. I personally prefer picking a direction just before boarding the plane rather than the FMD situation. Everyone knows before the plane is even off the ground what the pattern will be. Just like a day with enough wind to make the windsock usefull. If the wind is low enough that there is some question about what the landing direction is going to be, everyone on the load should be able to handle the cross or downwind landing if it shifts some. I don't know, I am capable of doing it but the ability of everyone around me to follow the FMD makes me a little more concerned. ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

Ivan is comming (but yes, its cool) ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

That's exactly how I feel. I'd just move on to bigger and better things... ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

Yeah. At rantoul the area over the open air wind tunnel is a "no fly" zone. Design has a lot to do with how far around and above the wind tunnel there will be turbulence. ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

Some of the WL, RSL, and Cypress threads have MUCH longer posts. This one is a long read Click me ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

Boredom coupled with inexperience and lack of knowledge. Its easy to get to a place where you figure nothing can go wrong. The reality of the situation is that people don't know enough about what can and will go wrong on any given canopy flight to recognize the difference between being "conservative" and being "on the edge." When you start to throw in what everyone else around you is doing the lack of knowledge becomes compounded with the preasures of being at the DZ. People see the hot shot swoopers flying around and "want to be like them." I don't think that there is anything wrong with this but for the most part there seems to be difficulty in grasping how much effort has been put into being that good. I think that when a person reaches the point where they are "comfortable" on the canopy that they are flying they want to step back up the the edge and push things a little further. They have grown acustom to the way that they feel and how they are treated for being at the edge with such little experience. This at least seems clear to me. By the time a person has reached that level of comfort which promotes the boredom that they are experience they have been "getting away with" being on the edge for what they feel is long enough to give them the experience to handle this new obstacle. Their friends are preasuring them to keep up because they too don't have the experience to know any better and the people who do are just "too old and being cautious." Hence every year we have to come on here punch up the incidents forum and read about someone with a few hundred jumps dieing under a 2.x stilletto or whatever HP canopy people seem to want this year. Everyone blames someone, a couple of new threads start up about a wingloading BSR, and its the fault of the person who sold them the canopy. I won't go on about which of them things I think are valid but I do think its clear that the skydiving community can't make up its mind. Should the few people who die every year cause us to further restrict everyone else? I don't know, I can't answer that question but it comes up on this forum every time one of "these" incidents occurs. (Thats not even counting the number of femur-to-wingloading/swooping related injuries that we probally don't hear about) I guess more on topic I can say that the canopy I jump is one that went from me pushing it to me being about where I should be. I mildly sprained an ankle with it too when I was much closer to the front of that spectrum. You learn a few things when you fuck up. That being said I am in no hurry to downsize. This comes back to the whole concept of knowledge and boredom. It seems that the people in that situation are not informed enough about the choices that they are making. People downsize for this or that reason. It seems to me that the only valid reason to downsize is to go faster. (Might be my inexperience speaking here.) Wanting to go faster can have lots of reasons though. My personal choice has been to learn how to make the canopy that I have go faster rather than learn how to fly a faster canopy. These choices both have risks associated with them, however it is easier to mitigate the risk factors of learning to make a canopy fly faster. If I get in a tight spot I can choose to not execute a "higher performance" landing. I can revert to the skills that I have flying my canopy in "standard" flight. If I was jumping a faster canopy I wouldn't have that option, I am stuck with what I have and I have to be able to save my ass or pay the consequences. I have a decent understanding of the canopy I am flying. I don't know everything, in fact I have barely scratched the surface of understanding how it flys but I do have the ability to push it more and learn more things. I am not spending my time learning the basics of flying the canopy. I think that this is key in being able to learn with more effeciency. If I went from the canopy I have now down a size and maybe to a more elliptical planform then I would be back to the basics for a couple hundred jumps because I would be lacking the experience of the basics. If I wait to downsize till I have learned how to do more advanced things on the canopy I have I don't have to keep spending a few hundred jumps every year learning basics. I can learn on something that is a little "safer" than a "highly loaded over-downsized canopy." People clearly think that to be good they have to jump the smallest canopy possible. I know that I won't bust out the 300+ foot swoops with my canopy, but I also recognize that I don't have the skill to fly a canopy that would let me. Its a different level of skill and most people don't recognize that. They think about it like most people think about cars. Faster the car the easier it is to win the race. That concept is just not the case. It might help win the race if you have the skill to take advantage of the higher performance features. Most people don't (and never will) when it comes to cars and the same can be said about canopies. I guess the bottom line is, its not the canopy that makes for good swoops, its the pilot. Every canopy has some range of performace that can be achieved. You have to have the skill to meet that range of performance or your going to get hurt. p.s. If you want to ignore my post because of my jump numbers go ahead. I don't have the patience to try and convince a person who doesn't want to listen. Experience and intelligence are not mutually exclusive, in fact those who lack the former need the latter to ensure that they don't die trying to gain said experience. I suppose you can always count on luck, but I was never one to go to the casino. ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

Ok so there are some people chatting come join us ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

Just cause... You should all go chat or something while i drive home from work http://www.dropzone.com/chat/ ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

There have actually been studies done on skydivers. The one that I read was quite interesting. ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

$7 for H'n'Ps from our 182 at sky knights in wisconsin. Plane flies with 3. Very quick ride. ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

Yeah, and cool. ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

The only thing I don't like about the PAC and will continue to not like is the fact that it is WAY WAY to tight in there. I was so uncomfortable on a ride to altitude in a fully loaded PAC that I would have been happy to get out low. If my DZ got one I would probally change DZs if they insisted on loading it up tight. (I do recognize the huge cost advantage of this plane) ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

I would guess its because one of the People at my DZ is organizing a trip out there for a bunch of us. My guess would be he has a few extra slots or something. I wanted to go, but am going to florida already so... ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

As I was watching that I was trying to guess in my head how many posts before I saw one about clay. I was off. I figured it would be the second ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

Thats the essential of how these threads go on DZ.com. There will be people who post suggesting one or the other but I am sure others will flame them for making that decision. Only people who has seen you fly and know you can help guide you in that decision. All that your gonna get on here is: "Stay at or below 1:1" If you do a quick search for first rig or first main or first there will be a plethora of threads asking this same exact question. There is so much that goes into that equation that most people just don't think about. Your instructors at your DZ know the answers to this question much much better than most of the people who would consider hitting reply and making a suggestion. Those who are qualified to help you make that decision won't do it over the net because they know better. (Following my point here) Good luck, stay safe, and enjoy your first rig! ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

yeah something like that http://www.dropzone.com/chat/ ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

You missed a step. You have to end task explorer.exe first. I love the quick fix insta reboot ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

Ouch ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

none of the mozzila based browsers work with the scroll point on my laptop. Sucks ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

Chicken flavored ramen: cook noodles, drain water, mix with cut up cucumber and tomatoes, italian dressing, half the packet of seasoning, eat cold. Makes an ok snack or addition to a regular meal ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

Sarcasm transfers VERY poorly in text on the internet. ~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka