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My grandfather is 90 and was chairman/representative for an retirement home, he refuses to drive as he said the saddest thing was having to remove driving priveledges from people who were to old to drive safely. In his opinion you should stop by 80 because you become a hazard after that. Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRnIXnBcAAo&feature=related The first 20 seconds of this video are on topic - the last 5 seconds you will wish you had never seen Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

But since Sangiro is South African Queen's english applies unless you want to talk lakker like, ja? Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

But in reality can you quantify that time in a way that is measureable? Going on your example of seasonal experience - I could be an active jumper for 4 years and only jump on nice sunny summers days accumulating my 500 jumps, while you accumulate your 500 jumps in 1 year including winter. Surely that is the point of license requirements such night jumps, practical experience is what counts - if people are ticking the boxes too quickly then perhaps the bar needs to be raised? Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

So should the CCTV network get part of the licence fee Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

As with everything stories have bias. I do not like camera's and even the stupid twats who broke into our offices a couple of years ago covered their faces so the CCTV was useless. But London and the UK motorways have an extensive network of camera's that are continuously monitored and from watching BBC traffic police and crime documentaries I can see that they are used alot, and with much success. For example at pub and club closing times they despatch officers to potential situations so they diffuse situations BEFORE they become crimes. I would guess that the cost of a CCTV operator is cheaper than a bobbie or two on every corner (although with rising unemployment that would be better than sitting on benefits) As for the persons comment about displacing crime - you've got to be kidding me, we are so swamped with CCTV the only crime that could be on the increase out of view of camera's is sheep being sodomised in Wales Personal experiences with CCTV: 1) Office crime - fail 2) Sales rep visiting who collided with a staff members car and left without saying a word - success 3) Delivery driver who reversed into my brand new BMW and then claimed that wife drove into him - success Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

Bill, I think this is a lost in translation thing. I believe that he is saying that a small mistake can result in death and ultimately that is the single most important fact in skydiving - not that there is only one mistake you can make. The fact that young males (generalisation) tend to underestimate risk, is not unique to skydiving and why some governments are increasing the age that people can drive etc. Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

It is called a "break line" because if used correctly it results in a femur Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

You do realise they are tarrot cards don't you Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

For the reasons that many of the posts state you can't effectively have a "time in the sport" requirement. It may be the more pertinant question is are the current jump numbers adequate? At my DZ it took people years to accumulate 500+ jumps, times have changed and you can now accumulate jumps very quickly. Another alternative is to expand the license scheme such that you have to follow an AFF type training course to participate in an advanced discipline. Self regulation works when people truly understand and grasp the risks, as skydiving has drifted towards being a "safe(r)" sport and marketed at the masses, there comes a time when people have to step in and set and police the rules. From the outside (I am no longer a current jumper) it appears that skydiving is at a point where if the USPA does not toughen it's stance, the Health and Safety freaks will fill the void. I understand that the BPA is more heavily regulated than the USPA, I am not sure if there is anything that can be learned from the BPA (other than Brits like rules) BTW as context I spent every weekend of 5 years at the DZ sleeping in the kit room. Although as a poor spotty faced kid, it was more about driving jumpers from the dz to the airport, packing, and drugs than skydiving Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

Attention to exit speed is a good clue. As you probably noted there have been 1 or 2 fatalities or injuries in the past year alone from "experienced" skydivers leaving an incorrectly configured aircraft. Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

wow some amazing pictures in that link thanks. I guess my favourite is the Chinese helicopter though. Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

damn you are a comic - this is definately the funniest thread I have read in a long time Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

They taught us in the basic MSF safety course. Something like look left, push left, go left. Practical application followed with swerving maneuvers in the parking lot. Best $80? I spent. The MSF courses sound very good from what has been said. Having riden bicycles most of my life and motorcylces a fair portion, until it was pointed out to me I would have sworn you turned the direction you turned the handle-bars if asked, obviously you "learn" to do it without thinking. As a small tribute long before the UK swerve test came out Tonto suggested practicing this manouver to improve safety. Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

Planks I think I could handle too. But the MSF course has an "obstacle" course with 4" x 4" pieces of wood you have to ride over. THAT would hurt at 60mph And plastic bags scare the hell out of me when I ride. One flew by about 3 feet next to me on the highway yesterday. Yes I just converted to "proper" units and that would definately hurt. I think it is ludicrous that here in the UK you either have 125's or "big" bikes and I don't like the DAS format where you can get your full bike license in 3 days. Added to that there is a rather restricted market for smaller bikes that are non motor-x or pure learner (CB250 for example). So it tends to push people onto very powerful bikes and unlike Shrop most people don't seem to like "yank tanks" so they get sports bikes. I am impressed at the approach Nataly appears to be taking of getting familiar with a small bike before doing her DAS. The biggest safety factor I think is to NOT ride like a biker, generally behaving like a car and not lane splitting unless necessary (for me that is motorway traffic slower than 30Mph, A road traffic < 5Mph) helps alot. Don't lane split near T junctions, pull into the traffic flow and lastly be visible. Many bikers who complain that car drivers don't see them ride where drivers aren't looking Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

Especially at highway speeds, as opposed to the 25mph we were doing on the MSF rides! I've hit a plank on the M25 at speed (~60MPH) and was very lucky, but the worst incident I have had was also on the M25 having a plastic shopping bag fly up and snag across my visor so that I was blind. Luckily my wife (who I trust) was directly behind in the car so I could break hard and go by feel - but we both crapped ourselves. Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

Shame - I understand that the new test is quite hard. Something that I was not taught during my CBT but during an advanced rider course is using counter-steer to turn harder/quicker. You use it naturally when riding above about 20miles an hour, but understanding it and getting a feel for it requires a little thought. The police instructor told us he sees loads of guys on sports bikes "fighting" their bikes around corners instead of simply steering properly. Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

Are you doing the new DAS test in the UK with the so called "swerve test"? Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

Yesterday I watched Monsters vs Aliens and once the cute chick became huge and was trying to tell her partner they could live happily ever after - I just couldn't get the image of her using her man like a dildo head-first out of my head Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

yes Dutch. Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

I don't know about location - but it could be it may even be the same flight as the shiny bald head at 20-24 seconds looks remarkably like my mate and he is holding a camera. Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

A friend of mine took this photo while on duty in Afganistan. Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

Georger, Provided the door is open you have a state of equilibrium and there is no airflow into the aircraft. There is obviously turbulance at the rear of the aircraft - but you will find that in most case inside the plane it is quite calm. I tried looking at my text books when I had a minute earlier today but couldn't bring myself to going into the details of whether the rear of a 727 constitutes a large or small oriface, I kind of felt like Jo with the dogs oriface. A thought just occurred when reading your summary A plausible explanation is that Cooper went onto the stairs and deployed at the TOP of the stairs = bump as stairs slam back up, but because of the deployment position (top of stairs) the parachute hangs up on the stairs = oscilations, whoosh parachute fails/clears the snag and cooper dies. This could provide an explanation for the 3 events. Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

I was trying to figure out - if it is an act the person on their back sure didn't seem to be paying attention to protecting their rig/reserve on exit. Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.

He was an air force cadet (about 16) and the air force sport jumpers didn't like to bother putting him out before their run. The main was an LR288 (square). Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived.