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A couple interesting radio interviews for those who would like to follow this case. One call in to the DZO and one call into the mayor. http://www.kxl.com/02/15/12/Skydivers-Arent-Falling-For-This/landing_lars.html?blockID=587404&feedID=10628 you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Eric Camble @ SSk can be reached during the week @ SSk 513-934-3201 Greg Bailey can be reached @ SWC 513-282-3725 as well as Jon Stewart. All three highly experienced and recommended, all well known in that area. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Lance pops is no meat hauler by trade that is for sure, however he is no stranger to the business and has IMHO a pretty damn good grasp on the good, the bad & the ugly. So I personally wouldn't discount his point of view just because he don't toss drouges. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Give her a jumpsuit with grippers and have her use them to help hold her knees and legs up for landing, make sure you give good instruction on how to not put her feet or legs down on landing and if you have to crash land, roll over and take like a paid professional.... you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

You have to a machine to run it on first. Here were talking about people (not just the dz in question) who are too cheap to even make an attempt to "do it right" buy investing in 1990's basic editing equipment to do the job, hell I would buy that shit now myself today, but then again I would record a rewind into the product. Back before computer editing became in fashion, most everyone used a mixing board of some kind, an MX 1 was a high end board and based on ebay prices it still is, I wouldn't buy it today! So your saying Pinnacle is easier to use a cheaper to buy then a "turn key" G5 mac with ilife suitehttp://charlotte.craigslist.org/sys/2784306645.html that is ready to produce when you plug it in and in 30 mins or less I could teach a 5th grader how to use it. All simple import and then drag and drop and simple typing and sliders, export to dvd.... That would be a low end and considered out dated by most computer nerds, unit. Like I said, (Pinnacle) you have to have a machine to run it on first, so how much will a PC cost to run it and how much will the software run? I don't know Pinnacle, please explain how its going to be cheaper, then the linked G5? you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

This is going to get interesting to watch, the airport is already broke and costing the city. http://www.registerguard.com/web/newslocalnews/27617454-41/airport-reimer-creswell-problem-moore.html.csp you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

I find hard to believe that a camera person who has been doing this for at least 4 years now and most likely longer, has not seen a real professional video and or talked to other camera people, maybe even seen other editing set ups at another dz or viewed this forum, and not be able to know what they are doing is shit work and unprofessional. Then there is dz owner side of the coin. It's their business, I know for a fact this dzo has been to PIA and other operations in different states where they do a mass volume of tdm's and videos. With each and every dvd that walks out the dz's door being a "short commercial" for their business, I can't understand how or why anyone would allow this to go on for many years. Personally I find there is no excuse at all for this when advertising a professional product and charging 85 bucks for it. To me it shows the camera person cares little for doing a professional job or the end product, it shows they only care for the pay. They care so little in fact they are not reinvesting into real equipment to do the job the right way, they have had 4 yrs or more to do so. Same can be said of the dzo. I just looked up on ebay a videonics mx 1 board, they still sell for the 400 to 600 bucks range, kind of a joke considering a very powerful G5 mac with imovie can be had for less then 300 bucks, that will run circles around a MX1 board. So again living in the sticks under a rock is no excuse for ripping off people for 85 bucks by giving them a jr high school production, but advertising a industry standard product. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Well I have to disagree with you. The land owner is a lady for one and she is, well, very pleasing to the eyes. So here we have let's say 8 men and two chicks drop out of the sky and land on her private property. So she engages them about their trespassing & scaring of the livestock and asks them to stop their deliberate and ongoing scaring of livestock because they were enjoying it and having a laugh. (in her mind that is what she saw) She then gets an attitude and who knows what smart ass reaction flipped to her, she may have even had to say something like "if you stop now and leave, I'm going to have to take action" (that could have meant calling the cops or pushing them out the gate) One or two male smartass skydivers then make additional comments like "yea right what you going to do about it, there are more us then you". (perceived threat of harm) We don't know, but had there been any feeling of a threat to her or her property, like fucking with the horses to the point one got hurt, well then she has a right to defend her person and the property, that even means letting loose the dogs and or pulling a firearm. Come out to my house and fuck with me or my family and see what you'll be staring down, dogs to much of a pussy to release on you though, so have no worries of a bite... you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

That was, over all retarded! The spinning intro was too much and it mostly was about them, the TI & video guy's act. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

So the guy broke a leg, what is your problem, besides mental. Just what all have you done to give back to this industry? Mr. Spotted Eagle has done a great deal of giving back to this community as well as the industry, even with a broken body part. He freely gives a hell of a lot to a lot of people and many big name people have turned to him for skills and experience in the video world, like Norm Kent... gee a video guy with over 20 years experience turning to a guy to make videos about how to make videos. Or how about producing production asst. for Sony Vegas and helping most anyone in skydiving learn how to use it, mostly for free I might add, and changing how video gets done in the industry. So again prof, what has been your big contributions to everyone? PS> no I don't know him, never met him in person, but when he first started I helped him with advice in camera flying, now his is the teacher and many of us are damn glad to have him around. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

That comment was made to her friends only on facebook and only made public because Mark posted the facebook comments. You mean to say you've never said things in private to close friends about something you didn't expect to be made public? you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

I know what you mean.... I was very surprised to find so many videos done like this and being sold for 85 bucks in modern times. Like you we used to use the pause. Then we hit the big time and got a videonics board so you freeze frame and do a A/B roll to the re-exit shot as well as a A/B roll for the slo-mo shots. I just saw 10 G5's on CL here local for 275 each... so with imovie so easy to use I can't understand how or why someone would allow such shitty work to leave the door of their operation, like I'm talking about. @ 275 you only need to sell a couple videos to get into the 21 century. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

I've heard that your the head turd herder.... you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

DZ's always need someone to clean the crapper and pick up trash and mow the grass, pick up cig butts, clean the pool, mop up the hurl in the bar and bunk house and over all general flunky duties, if the guy has new found free time and wants to try to start at the bottom rung, no reason to not try and talk to them even without ratings. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

While searching the net for some keywords I kept seeing tandem videos on youtube showing up in the search. Being a jumper and video flyer for a number of years, I watched one. It was your standard TDM vid, not the best work ever, but standard for a lot of places.... until the canopy deployment. Once the canopy deployed the video had a rewind recorded in it back to the exit so the exit and dive could be shown again. At first thought, I was thinking must have been hurting for video people that jump and it was a one of a kind, however I clicked on another video from the same dz and yet again the same thing over & over & over for most all videos going out the door. these are uploaded by the person who paid 85 bucks or more for it. In today's day & age even a cheap videonics or panosonic JVX board can be found on ebay for cheap, hell Craig's list has G4 & G5 macs for under 300 bucks these days that would allow for nice slo mo's and clean professional looking edited videos to leave the door for those too cheap to go NLE. So how many of you vidiots would send every video out the door with recorded rewinds in your dvds? (by rewind, I mean where you see the pixels and tape marks recorded as the tape based camera is run backwards via camera remote and then played back again) I guess I could understand if we were still in 1990 and all, but hardly what I would call as advertised as professional video services for 85 bucks. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

There called students these dayz....stoooopid. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Only if I'm rigging your gear. Never seen a FSDO or other FAA person make any such demand on a dz, unless there was a rigging loft, the loft kept a master log for rigging, but no record of all gear jumped on the dz. One the other hand, what is the big deal if your not jumping "hot" gear or 5 rigs? you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

All this pissing back and forth..... the bottom line is any instructor who fails to think/assume a student jumper don't have their head up their ass is a fool. You can't count on students following any rules, or understand right of way, even on radio, it's like following around a student driver and and not expecting them to do something stupid, there is a reason there is a set of peddles on the driving instructors side. I don't fly around doing tandems and think I'm less in control because I'm flying a huge canopy, I have just as much control and the experience to avoid students (and others seen) if need be. A little planing ahead goes a long way and if you can't tell what a student canopy looks like in the air then maybe you shouldn't be doing tandems or other instructional work. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

There are canopies that require no turns and will beat down other canopies, even tandems that went out first. For example: A strong set 400 or 366 can be beat down by a P.aero 365 even when the set canopy was out first and both pulled at the same altitude. It's all in the glide ratio & canopy design. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

The question at hand is when did the city last take federal funds? That is when the clock starts, you can't close the airport if the contractual requirements have not been met under the AIP funding. from FAA order 5190.6B chapter 2 page13. From chapter 4 page two 4.3. The Duration of Federal Grant Obligations. Federal obligations relating to the use, operation, and maintenance of the airport remain in effect throughout the useful life of the facilities developed under the project, but not to exceed 20 years. In cases where land was acquired with federal assistance under AIP, the federal land obligations remain in perpetuity. In cases where land was acquired with FAAP or ADAP grants, FAA should review the language of such grants when it is necessary to determine the status of the sponsor’s obligations since most FAAP land grants and some ADAP grant documents do not impose a perpetual obligation. For disposal of a specific parcel, the sponsor’s obligation to reinvest the proceeds may depend on the grant history for that particular parcel. (More information about this process is contained in this Order in chapter 22, Releases from Federal Obligations.) Before concluding that a sponsor’s grant obligations have expired, the FAA should review all land grants at the airport to ensure that no land grant contains a perpetual obligation. All AIP land grants and most surplus property deeds of conveyance include the obligation to operate the airport property as an airport in perpetuity.*** you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

It's in chapter 4 of FAA order 5190.6B airport compliance manual. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Don't spook the livestock. http://www.iloveskydiving.org/view/videos/friday-freakout-ground-launching-into-a-herd-of-cows/

Your right, you did and did not, others seem to want to continue. My apologies if you felt I was speaking to you directly. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Just pointing out what I have seen by a great deal of male instructors for many years, even in modern times. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo

Yea its called falling out of the blue umbrella and into the green bowl. There is a point in free fall where you begin to go below the lip of the green bowl, in other words the horizon begins to become level with you or more out in front of you and it will begin to fill the peripheral vision more, and not below you like when in the blue umbrella and the blue fills the peripheral vision. It's easy to miss if you never looked for it before or noticed it. This starts to take place in the flat lands around 3k and below, once your @ 2 grand the earth look really big, but at 4 k it dose not. And if you can't tell you below 2k with eyes, then maybe you shouldn't be jumping, or at least without an AAD turn on. In places with mountains, you can use a land mark provided you know the altitude of said land mark, such as the pasture on the hill in E-snore (ask an oldtimer) Regardless, if your in the mountains and can't tell your getting really low into the valley, might not be a good idea to be a skydiver, or get you a AAD and turn it on. you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo