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Everything posted by georger
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The hair is a broken segment of hair, so no root. dna is in the root so no dna via the hair! There are isotopic tests on hair that relate to diet. Tortilla vs fish. Meat vs vegetarian. Mexican diet vs Boston diet etc ...
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Why take a Cooper special to Netflix? See a few stats: https://www.demandsage.com/netflix-subscribers/
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Its been mentioned by name by two agents and by the Sheriff's Dept - thats all I know.
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I still think somebody needs to get the files just to be sure ? You have to file an application to see the files.
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Dorwin Schreuder
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DS was interviewed for three hours + ....
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During conversations with agents today several subjects were covered: Agents interviewed today recall the Heisson Store robbery was solved and it was not DB Cooper but a local from the area that was arrested. An arrest was made in that case and several 302s were generated citing the news. Records of the matter may still be available through the Clark County Sherriff. Fill out the appropriate form to ask for records ... Original searches for Cooper: The main issue was manpower. The hijacking generated larger than normal public interest. Every level of law enforcement was looking for Cooper, in one form or another for weeks. Members of the public volunteered and helped conduct searches and canvassing (talking to people) at Portland, Vancouver, Seattle, and large numbers of people from the public helped conduct searches as search areas were identified and news spread ... and the discovery of Cooper money in 1980 intensified public participation, all over again. Each FBI office had people assigned to keep in touch with the public in running dialogues which lasted years in some cases.
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agree for the most part. I dont know that the bills were ever in a condition to fan out The bills could have been stationary high on the bank then exposed to Columbia water as the water level rose. Im not even sure we have a representative sample of all of the bills in the Ingram find alone, let alone the whole 200k. The good news is Tom finally found diatoms on one bill. That is a hard won victory (laughing) ... Tom needs to test the found fragments for diatoms! Getting that to happen is a tall order. Those frags were believed by agents to have been sent to the Washington Lab ? Has anyone seen them since? They arent in Seattle.
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Possible new info has emerged about the dredging at T Bar - agents who were at the Ingram find explain further in new interviews. Pieces of money distributed through a fan shaped segment from 8"-1.5 ft deep "looked chopped" and were completely unassociated with the Ingram bundles themselves as per the Bruce Smith allegation. "We left hundreds of small pieces of money in the sand when we left . . . " Both agents were interviewed at length for the Netflix (Colbert) production due to be broadcast. More to come...
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R99 answer the man's question. Stop the obfuscation. This is quite simple imho. A few people are trying to link the money (find) with a flight path. If the money had been found on the next guy's property - the new fp would be there. If at Cat Isle, then there. If at Portland, then there. If at Troutdale, then there. If in Brazil, then there ........................ and on and on etc. Quote: "If the money is here then Cooper was here, in person." (Loren Jones, Deputy). 'The Heisson store robbery may have been Cooper but there is a gap between that and money being found in the area in 1980. Find something that connects the two and you have found Cooper...' The official flight path is not going to be changed unless something concrete surfaces. The claims of a few people are not evidence. Another mystery: TK examined 4 bills. Only one bill clearly showed diatoms. But, the year or years of those diatoms is unknown, so far. The diatom issue has yet to be clearly resolved.
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Nonesense. WSHM did not endorse your west path, or any west path, or your version of redactions. That much is 100% clear. You have had a good ride with this. Time to resign.
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Here is what WSHM actually said vs R99's version - I am posting the whole statement verbatim! : MAIN POINTS WSHM HARRISON PAPERS ANALYSIS – ATC vs ARINC transcripts ? the files of George E. Harrison, DMTS, District Manager of Technical Services for Northwest Airlines stationed at Seattle, relating to the events of November 24, 1971 involving the hijacking of NW flight 305 by Dan “DB” Cooper. 1. Handwritten notes by George Harrison, describing the hijacking minute by minute, d. 11/24/71, (23 pages) – digitized in PDF format, hereafter referred to as WSHS no. 2013.5.23.1; 2. Correspondence, receipts, and other documents regarding hijacking of Northwest Airlines flight 305, both handwritten and typed; varying dates, from 11/24/71 to 5/19/72, (14 pages total) - digitized in PDF format, hereafter referred to as WSHS no. 2013.5.23.2; 3. Two rolls of teletype (TTY) printout, produced by ARINC for Northwest Airlines, both rolls d.11/24/71. For discussion purposes, the teletype printout rolls are here identified as “roll A” and “roll B.” The last entry examined on this roll bore a matching entry on 2013.5.15.5 [page 106 of transcript; page 18 of PDF file] with a timestamp of 8:20 PM (PST). This report covers the findings of the visual analysis of the ARINC teletype rolls, by WSHS curators Fred Poyner IV and Gwen Whiting. No timestamps were visible on the printout, in correlation with the entries made. However, comparative matches of individual entries were possible, by a comparison of roll A with the public released printout Roll B obtained from the FBI (2013.5.15.5) later released by a newspaper called the PI Transcript, of flight 305 communications. For discussion of the analysis of missing sections, roll A was the primary source of information. Roll B was identical to roll A in terms of material and appearance, except in three areas: Report findings: (This is the section Robert Nicholson often refers to claiming redactions etc... WSHM's actual words below.) Finding no. 1 – In a comparison of entries from both ARINC roll A and roll B, and the public released transcript [2013.5.15.5] between the timestamp entries from 4:45 pm (PST) to 8:24 PM (PST), inclusive, there were found to be eight (8) areas of missing, or redacted, teletype print copy, with each area made up of one or more individual “blocks” or entries of text, discovered in roll A: Between 4:45 PM and 4:51 PM -- one entry of teletype text Between 5:16 PM to 5:22 PM – 3 entries of teletype text Between 5:37 PM and 5:47 PM – 3 entries of teletype text Between 5:47 PM and 6:21 PM – 12 separate entries of teletype text Between 6:25 PM and 6:38 PM – 4 entries of teletype text Between 6:44 PM and 6:59 PM – 2 entries of teletype text Between 7:48 PM and 7:54 PM – 1 entry of teletype text Between 7:54 PM and 8:05 PM – 4 entries of teletype text Finding No.1 - These entries appear to reflect aircraft information about Northwest flight 305 and its outbound flight from Seattle-Tacoma International Airport on 11/24/1971 Finding no. 2 – The examination of the teletype printouts in both roll A and roll B, reveal that there are no missing sections of type reflected between the timestamps for 8:10 PM (PST) to 8:12 PM (PST); 8:12 PM to 8:20 PM (PST); or 8:20 PM to 8:24 PM (PST), when compared to the public released transcript entries found for these same time periods [ref. 2013.5.15.5]. Finding no. 3 – While not conclusive, the ARINC teletype rolls A and B that were part of George Harrison’s files may be the same “radio logs” referenced in the letter sent by Harrison to J.A. Rigby, d. 11/26/1971, in paragraph 4, page 1. The letter indicates that these logs were provided to the FBI c/o J. Earl Milnes, the SAC for the Cooper investigation at the time, so that the FBI could make their own copy then return the originals to NW Airlines. Finding no. 4 – In the examination of the rolls A and B, and accompanying documents made available on loan to WSHS from the Harrison estate, no conclusive information was discovered as to who or why the ARINC teletype entries were omitted from the FBI’s publicly released version of the radio log [ref.2013.5.15.5]. Subsequent efforts by WSHS curators to secure ATC transcripts have not yielded positive results to date. Sources queried have included: 1. FBI (Seattle office-2012); 2. FOAI request (2012); 3. Office of the Historian, Federal Aviation Administration (2014). While the ARINC data may be of a limited value, it remains that the teletype rolls A and B have not before been made available for either study and public dissemination, given the established provenance of the documents as originating with George Harrison, an executive employee for Northwest Airlines at the time of the Cooper hijacking. Flight data recorded in the ARINC teletype printouts may possibly be useful in reference to the outbound flight path of NW flight 305, with the focus on timestamp entries from 4:45 PM (PST) to 8:24 PM (PST) deliberately examined for this purpose. The report acknowledges that the curator examination of both rolls, and the restriction on digitization, reflects both the physical condition of the original documents and loan restrictions placed while in WSHS custody. (end of WSHM statement)
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https://www.seattletimes.com/entertainment/tv/new-netflix-documentary-series-d-b-cooper-where-are-you-reexamines-an-infamous-folk-legend/ Seattle Times review of the Colbert Netflix docu drama. Warning: You have to be subscribed to read it! The media keeps reducing its power and its presence in the Planetary Maldum Fornax. The new Netflix documentary series “D.B. Cooper: Where Are You?!” is as much about the hunt for Cooper, and those the search has drawn in, as it is about the... (Courtesy of Netflix) Skip Ad Rob Owen Special to The Seattle Times . . . . .
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WSHM does not say that! Only YOU say that! endlessly. I will get back to this tonight after the latest weather crisis passes. I will quote EXACTLY what WSHM says, which is something you cleverly bypass at every opportunity this post of yours included. Or, you or somebody else can finally just quote what WSHM actually says, NOW, which would be a first. Stop milking a dead horse?
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Some people still believe there are Cooper things still to be found at Tena Bar and Jimmy Colhoun is one of those. He has launched a search of the whole area and says: If Cooper cratered into the sand there or somewhere on the island (or just landed and died), there will be things to find even 50 years on. A backpack will have metal clips, a briefcase made of plastic or even leather will still be largely intact, etcetera. Likely won't find anything, but I will test my hypothesis and report back. Cheers "Since we now know the money did not hit the water until Spring/summer, I think it is possible that it sat ..." The money hit the water in the Spring ... of some year Clearly, this is a case of teleportation and or time travel.
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Well the Courts, FBI, and the Justice Dept screwed itself and historical truth when it allowed the Ingram find to be split up between competing interests. My guess is the Ingram find represents a sheared-off section of Cooper bundles. Modern technology could have reassembled the Ingram find so we would know exactly what state the find was in, and what it was, when discovered by the Ingrams. If the Ingram find is a sheared off section of Cooper money then only a small number of options apply ... its a shame this case is being destroyed by speculators and greedy media interests and book writers. This case literally overlaps the development of modern technologies which could have been used in this case, if people had only had the foresight to wait and retool. Answers would have followed!
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You are asking questions and bringing up issues, that go to the core of the Cooper case. I wish we could get a Seal Team Commander to give his opinion of Cooper, Cooper's plan, and how Cooper conducted his hijacking from a tactical point of view. I have no opinion about the Dan Cooper comic persona and how that compares with DB Cooper. Carr has said he sees Cooper as a 'rank novice'/ amateur ? I wish Carr would explain that. Cooper had specific demands and a timeline. But he was VERY concerned about a sky marshal (ore two?) being on this flight - which seems to undermine his status as a fully informed tactical person. He said he was hijacking because the opportunity was presenting itself. He seems to have been in a hurry to do it and get it over with . . . like a bank robbery. ................................................. btw we have nothing about how Cooper and his clothing smelled ? Nothing if there was something that stood out. Its basic clues that solve cases. So far as I know no one has asked 'how did Cooper smell' - did anyone bother to ask Tina how Cooper smelled? Did his cloths smell of campfire smoke? etc
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The original sketches drawn for Cooper are a puzzlement to me. The Gregory sketch was the first - interviewed in Washington but drawn by somebody in the Las Vegas Office? Why Las Vegas ? Next several days later the Mucklow-Schafner sketches, produced by which office where? Why's the Gregory sketch so completely different?
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Tina may have an opinion about that - but we will never know that! For various and sundry reasons ... known only to the Cooper Confessional.
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Great true story. Thanks!
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When will lidar be used in the Cooper case? R99 climas Cooper cratered near Tina Bar in a no pull. Would R99 and Hollywood be willing to finance a lidar search of the Tina Bar area for Cooper's crater? Its time to do something real for a change!
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R99 says: Bruce has definitely put Cossey on the right peg. Everything Cossey has said is bullshit. Ignore him. Except that Cossey is the person who packed all of the chutes delivered to the plane, his name is on the packing cards ? Or is that all bs too, or a Cossey lie ? How many more years will the chute psycho-drama continue? 1, 3, 6, 67, 6789 ? Everything Cossey has said is bullshit. ?
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JAG can get his questions answered here. Its a complicated situation out of anyone's control. There is no DB Cooper Supreme Court@! That is a media driven myth just as "40 DB Cooper Angels" is also a myth. Follow the bouncing ball . . .
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Factoid? I have been told that Tina's father was an electrician. Is that true? Did she work with her father? Tina gave a beautiful description of the bomb including colors of wires, black wire went here, red wire went there .. was connected to - , etc . . . she alerted the pilots when Cooper claimed his bomb 'was fused?' ... and might be affected by radio communications ....? Anyone in the Vortex want to draw any inferences from this? Why would Cooper go to the trouble of wiring his fake bomb or making it look like it was wired and explaining the bomb ,,, and if I touch these two wires together .... poof! ? Cooper gave a technical presentation. Was Cooper a Kindergarten teacher? An FBI agent. A professional gambler.
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Cooper wanted . . . . . but he bailed before Portland after signalling he was going to jump. He built a bomb and showed it including the bomb's wiring to the stew who was then able to describe the bomb right down to its wiring and the colors of wires ... he wanted to convince people to take him seriously and obey his commands. Cooper had the initiative. The crew had nothing to compete with this! It's elementary but it works! Cooper left a tie - he evidently had no further need for that. The same for the bomb. And now media people are hard at work trying to hijack the Cooper case! Because they are special - only media people can solve crimes! Moreover as stated by one media-politician, the Cooper case = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. That guy has been very clear in his demands. He wants to even select who can talk about the Cooper case and he and his friends have put that into motion, from the start. Cooper wanted .... Elvis wanted to buy a submarine and a tank ? As TK always says: ITS THE COOPER VORTEX! Has the bidding war started yet? DB Cooper WANTED . . . .