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Obviously, Cooper and Mucklow had a discussion about Cooper's demands, probably what he wanted and the form etc etc etc. Mucklow took her role seriously. Her communications were vital and she realised that. She wanted no screw-ups! She knew what she said and the form it took was important . If she had stipulated ' all bills in a bundle shall be face up and out on all US bills in every bundle...' that amount of detail would not surprise me at all. I am sure Tina and Cooper discussed all of this - and it gave Cooper confidence things were working smoothly to his favor. If there is redundancy in her words its there for a purpose. She's trying to get the job done and communicated - with no confusion or guesswork about what Cooper wants and the form it must take! US American Currency should surprise no one. That essential redundancy is there for a purpose. We are talking about a person who has been involved in Biblical studies and language since she was a child, where words and semantics have meaning and get discussed endlessly, from Sunday School as a child forward through Tina's whole life. Tina is aware of the role language plays. During a hijacking language is going to play a vital role! Tina is fully aware of her role and the importance of language . Cooper and the crew were lucky to have her....

He also later told Tina "US" currency. No. These are Mucklow's words from he second deposition, not Cooper's words verbatim. You keep telling us Mucklow's words are Cooper's words ... just as you told us Mucklow's words were the bank's words! Mucklow is not giving quotations of other people's statement - Mucklow is explaining things in her own words. Mucklow's words are not Cooper quotations. Mucklow gave two interviews where she states her recollection of Cooper demands. Mucklow #1: " Mucklow then used a plain envelope to write out the demands of the hijacker, listing that he wanted four parachutes including two back packs and two chest packs, $200,000 in cash in small bills, and that he wanted everything by “by five o’clock”. " Mucklow #2: ". The hijacker later told (repeated to) Mucklow that he wanted $200,000 in circulated US currency, " Mucklow is trying to be specific. She is communicating with the cockpit. So whose words are these? Mucklow's or Cooper's verbatim? Mucklow can only talk to the cockpit. The cockpit will communicate with the ground. The money is going to be US currency in any event! Cooper wants: $200,000 in cash in small used bills. Cooper wants used bills in small denominations that will be easy to pass. That is all this is about! Quite often a cigar is only a cigar!

Second, it would be very rare and odd in 1971 to use the descriptor "American/US" by somebody who has never left the US or planned to or was never exposed to another currency.. very rare. Those things indicate a foreign aspect to Cooper. Those words taken in context, indicate somebody in authority trying to communicate somebody else's demands to people who are going to be tasked with fulfilling those demands! Otherwise these words are redundant, irrelevant, confusing. The context is not in question. The context is: communication of another person's demands vs. someone trying to communicate 'their' demands. This is "authority speak", pure and simple. You hear this very thing every frikin day between dispatchers and police officers in calls for service. 'Person who is a person called and has a burglar or burglary in his garage which is at his property with a weapon gun ...' This is a one-way communication. There is no conversation. No discussion. No clarification. The words of a robot! Authority-speak. Something a pilot under stress with authority would say. There are probably other examples in the text if you look for them... short redundant bits of information spoken with authority.

Money ie. bills are "negotiable" by definition, unless you have Alzheimers or are from a different country with different standards and rules. Or if you have an IQ of 60! Or if you are so nervous you cant zip your pants or think. ................ if Cooper even said this. Negotiable American currency:" is even worse. Now you are in the realm of Martians and imbeciles ! Or dolphins or whales trying to make human speech ? It sounds like something Abraham Lincoln might have said once in a speech forever remembered, etched in stone, on the Lincoln Memorial for all time. Said or written only once during the whole hijacking. So it must be super critically important .... since it was said only once! Otherwise it would have been said by Whomever 500 times, for everyone to known and remember forever. No questions about the source or the meaning then, like: "B'rashit bara Elohiym..." In the beginning God made (with his hands) ,,, Bara is a verb reserved for what craftsmen do only with their hands, like rolling clay into a ball when making pots and plates ....

If Cooper said negotiable/uncirculated American, then he is revealing he is a foreigner and out of touch with what any bank can even provide "by 5:00PM" on the spur of the moment ... much less what they will provide! He might as well be asking that the money be delivered "in a Cadillac pink in color" ... to be dropped from the 727 with him in it! How far do we stretched this? Negotiable/uncirculated delivered in a canoe? It doesnt matter what he WANTS - it only matters what he can get and what is available to get. He seems completely out of touch with how you conduct a hijacking and ask for money. He's a guy from some village in Mexico and hyjacking/burglary is all new to him. But he knows how to build a convincing fake bomb! He actually thinks the Americans can and wil give him ' negotiable/uncirculated. American currency'. Just never mind what the banks or the FBI actually can do or can deliver! That is irrelevant to Cooper. World to Cooper! negotiable. Bills are negotiable by definition! You dont have to ask for it! uncirculated. You mean NEW bills never used before? That is what uncirculated means in English! You arent going to get uncirculated. You can only get used bills. So sir, go back to your village and rethink what you are going to ask for, and HOW to ask for it - non English speaker/thinker. Beuno!? If DB Cooper said: negotiable/uncirculated American currency, then Cooper's thought process is distinctly not standard American English or even Canadian English. Cooper's semantics and thought process are from some other language no matter what his socalled 'accident' is. Or, Cooper never said: negotiable/uncirculated American currency.

One researcher went so far as as to assign Cooper to Saskatchewan, because of US American currency ! Cooper never mentioned Saskatchewan. He did mention Mexico and the FBI's profile based on interviews of crew includes the possibility he is Latin. There is lots of over-reach and over-thinking that went on in the case. People trying to cover many bases ... against an uncertain and incomplete knowledge base namely Cooper himself and what he wanted and would do ... including an FAA Psychiatrist issuing wild assertions about what Cooper was going to do! . As a practical matter, First Ntl's emergency fund was only in US currency, not Pesos or Canadian. So the issue was mute, in any event. Anyone who thought otherwise was revealing a lack of basic knowledge about the options available at the time. The Cooper case has its share of authority driven bad scripts being read by people!

Peca? Did Peca ride a horse to the airport? What happened to the horse ?

BUllsh*t.

with your permission . better quality larger version ?

Amazing! How come none of this came out in Court, when the Ingram's were suing for a reward! ?

Dare I ask: how did Cooper money get to Tena Bar ?

And soon it would be a brand new century. 2000. The year today is 2022 !

You mean at 10:00 AM vs 8:00 PM ? Maybe Cooper wanted to jump on Monday instead of Wednesday in July vs November but had to save up to buy a ticket?

Any evidence in your research that Cooper smoked cigarettes 'backwards'. Lit the filers and puffed? That's a favorite habit of the Arukanian cowboys.

Its not a delusion that you are wasting our time about it reiht now!

That dates Dec 9 1971. Hair analysis has changed and evolved since then!

and a 40 remakes of 'Josephine and the Three Dwarfs' is also on the way - - - - - - - who cares!

Correct. Schreuder said there were "thousands". Beyond that I dont know - I wasnt there. And, these frags were in the area Crystal Ingram identified as the true area where the kids found the money, vs. Harold's version. Ckret is aware of this conflict, if he recalls ... The story I have is there was no practical way to recover all of these small fragments short of a full-fledged archaeological excavation, and nobody had the time or money for that! These fragments were in a large area stretching north-south but appx 20ft west (below) Harold's location closer to the water line .... but it was Harold (not Crystal) who was taken out to TBar to identify the find location, they drove a stake at that location. Schreuder was not present for that; he and another arrived later and marked out a 20 yd grid based on the stake already marking Harold's Ingram find location. All of this is detailed in the FBI files Tom and I were given by Ckret ... no 302 I have seen released to date covers any of this information ? Ckret released these files to Tom, and Tom provided me with a copy, Since Ckret was also working with Geof Gray at the time, he may have provided Gray with the same materials? I am not aware if Gray ever tried to assemble a science team or what materials Ckret provided Gray. Gray's whole status in the Cooper case has always been very murky to me.

Tell us all about it!

Here are TK's original three bills -

Have we seen the "separate Lab report" ? To whom was it sent? Seattle or Portland ? Why is Portland sending the money to the Lab and not Seattle? Seattle has jurisdiction. There is more to this story but its unresolved... This 302 does seem to establish it was the Lab who did the separating. What techniques/technology was used to separate the bills ... ? Any rubber band remnants found and inspected ?

Because they arrived later via Crystal Ingram, and were sent to the Lab separately. How and why did the Ingrams manage to separate four bills while not the rest?

Who separated the bills ?

Why? Because the FBI are not morons! Spent an hour talking to one agent this afternoon - we had a blast. Learned a lot about the mechanics of filing for Lab work in 71 ... (Lab was in Wash DC). We think the frags collected at T Bar were sent to the Lab and may still be stored there! Then (agent was cleaning out his barn as we talked) I asked: "tell me exactly how the twelve groups turned in by the Ingrams got separated into single bills and placed in evidence folders, who did that ...." ? "Was done by the Lab, submitted by the case manager in Seattle.... must have been a huge job ... they may have farmed it out to the Treasury Lab .... but everything came back to Seattle in folders ..... maybe took a month .... was told it was 'one helluva a job!' ? ... and there were still fragments stuck they didnt get separated! " Lot of fun. to be continued ....

Bloody good. Thank you. God save the King.