georger

"Your husband was with his family for Thanksgiving dinner that year. This has been verified by the FBI. " Jo has some explaining to do ....................... She might even be liable for civil damages....

QuoteAll, I just got off the phone talking to Jerry Thomas. REPLY: YOU DUN GOOD SIR !

It's not a joke about the bar, she told us that story herself. Hi Shelly. Sluggo will tell you who I am. I hope we can talk more - where Sluggo arranges. It's a pleasure to meet you and Jerry. Are you saying it was Jo who came up with a story about Duane being with Brad Pitt & Tom Cruise at a bar? What year would that have been? Pitt is 46 and was born in 63. Cruise is 47 born in 62. Brad Pitt has a housing project going in New Orleans. I know people who are workers in the project and other people who are contributors, because we had massive floods here last year ... and a lot of people working in Brad's organisation came here to help. I can contact Brad Pitt and ask him about this story if you want me to. It would take some time but I can do it. ??? I think I already know what the answers will be but I want to ask before assuming anything. Lets just leave it at that but I am very pleased to meet you and Jerry. I'm all ears - Georger

Angel Udell & Judge Jo-dy: And to think a simple brain scan could have avoided the whole thing.

You said that before. Senile? Dont let the door slam you in the head on the way out. Ain't goin nowhere, nor have I ever claimed to be. EDIT: Seems you may have a new obsession... Youve done all you need to do to get the forum shut down. Mission accomplished.

You said that before. Senile? You dont get the point, or dont care (so why are you here?) Few people could have pursued the Duane myth for 13+ years without being gullible in the first place. Again, nobody has any other account than the account Jo Weber has given the world. Duane never said a damned thing to anyone else; even Jo says that. The whole story is Jo's story, not Duane's story. Duane could have been making the whole thing up! Jo would definitely have believed it or bought into it. Duane was sharp and knew Jo was gullible. Jo is just pissed and trying to make something out of the big nothing Duane left her (or screwed her with)! These personal relationships get messy. Jo and Duane were not Donny and Marie Osmond! Dont let the door slam you in the head on the way out.

NOTHING I said to Tom was not said on this forum and in other public places. If Tom pulled out I had NOTHING to do with that. ------------------------------------- Georger wrote: I have not said Ckret was fired. I merely complained about FACT and FICTION - this again was done publically in this forum and else where. If you are an FBI agent - do not inject your private opinions into the facts of the case - as that influences many impressionable individuals - hence - the opinion is then quoted as Fact. ---------------------------------------- Georger states: I have said before Georger has a vested interest in Cooper - FBI, CIA, WRITER - so who is Georger and what is his involvement. What would provoke the above statement? ------------------------------------ Georger states:

Wasn't Geroger working with a facial recognition team a while back? Whatever became of that project? It was canceled for obvious reasons. Nobody in their right mind is going to spend one second on such bullshit. Would you! ? More to the point: why "is" anyone even here? When you consider that WE are all amateurs, what is it to have amateurs fighting with amateurs over DB Cooper!? Then you throw in Jo Weber the cultist with a personal agenda to prove fighting for her "rights" with amateurs, and you toss in Snow's proliferations .... What is to be gained - and what lost!

over there, not here, unless there's no better choice. Will explain on the dark side of the moon.

Toms group fell apart after Jo Weber infiltrated it through Tom. Tom was warned. He did not listen. Weber wasted no time contacting Tom after he surfaced. Tom was warned she would. He then came here to play further with Jo Weber and his/my group split. Tom is on his own now, whatever he's doing but his judgement took a nosedive with me and others. Jo has a nasty habit of sticking her nose in everywhere. She claimed in private PM's Ckret had been fired! from the DB Cooper case. That caused a stir. It was traced to somebody Jo knows in Washington. Ckret and I discussed it. You guys sit here for entertainment. Some of the rest of us are out there on the firing line with assholes like Weber raising hell and rumoring, making allegations, and I can assure you its no fun. The thing you guys dont seem to understand or care about is Jo Weber has one and only one purpose, and that is to have Duane Weber officially declared DB Cooper, and she doesnt much care how its done. But, she is so far away from having having Duane declared Cooper that Martians will be officially declared DB Cooper first, because ........ duhhhhh.. Duane WEbeer WAS NOT DB Cooper and there are a millions reasons-of-fact why that is the case. In the meantime all Jo Weber can do is hope to keep her case alive and that involves disrupting other people if that's what it takes. So, it isn't that I have some obsession with Jo Weber, it's simply an issue of getting any peace at all to think, while Jo Weber is at hand and active processing her obsessions daily for years. 13+ years! So, ... enjoy your Jo Weber entertainment here while it lasts. The real discussion is going elsewhere where Jo Weber will not be permitted. Unless I miss my bet Jerry Thomas will not come here because of Jo Weber. Mr. Thomas had already had a belly full of Jo Weber years ago, from what I am told by "reliable" sources. So you can thank Jo Weber for that. And your entertainment here very likely will never include Jerry Thomas. Its as simple as that. Have a nice DB Cooper day.

Indeed. It's childish bullshit. Georger seems to be obsessed with Mrs. Weber. Really! Cart before horse. I am out of here -

Or, let me put it this way - - - If Jerry Thomas comes HERE, Jo Weber will make his life miserable. And since YOU are supporting Jo Weber's bullshit Thomas will probably turn around and not give YOU the time of day! So why should Thomas come here at all? Jo already launched her baloon replying (giving notice) to Sluggo at the mere mention of Thomas.......... or cant you read? Do you not know history? You already know we are all headed to the Dark Side of the Moon anyway to get away from Weber so spare me your Jo Weber asparagus! I could be "poilite" from now until hell freezes over and everyone here is forced to leave. That is EXACTLY what Jo wants. She wins that way. She equates people giving up and leaving with her being right and vindicated, or did you miss psychology 101, at Kinderfarm? Its been happening since Jo first surfaced 13+ years ago. Let Jo move for a change and let her open her own damned forum - she has so much to say and so much to "teach" everyone! Jo Weber is 900% full of shit. How much more obvious could it be?

or said another way: the poop story is TRUE! yOU NEED TO GET A COMPASS. iM NOT THE BOTTOM FEEDER HERE!

well, if you had any idea wtf you were talking about it would be a good start - so you condone her subversive high horse activities? I on the other hand ask: WHO THE FUCK IS JO WEBER?" Who and what make Jo Weber so special? You? Give me a break.

Jerry previously has lived way up in the woods and had no telephone for yrs - he used a friends phone. That may have changed since I learned he has health probliems starting a few yrs ago. Jerry is the one who insisted that Washougal could not be on my right - over and over. Yet, with the help of a local "truck driver" I found what I was looking for and the place Duane took me to. Jerry refused to follow lthe pipelines and powerlines - yet they were crucial. He had a mind set back yrs ago that Cooper landed in a specifc site and was not open at that time to the locations I had asked about and denied they existed. Since my locations and description of the places Duane took me did exist, but Jerry denied they were there - I lost my faith in him. In the beginning I thought he could help, but time proved me wrong. It was after I went to WA and found what I was looking for that he bowed out. Outside of my finding what he claimed did not exist does exist, he is a real nice guy...not sure he is computer literate, but we will see. He is a simple man with simple needs. Did you collect his poop? Do you have a poop collecting license? What do you know about Maj Glenn Close? Did Duane pick up his poop so as not to leave it when you two were walking around at ___________? As I recall you refused to leave any poop too? Now as I recall this (the poop story), Duane told you about New Guinea during WWII. The natives snuck in took poop to examine it to tell if the white men were men or gods, but the poop solved it, Gods do not poop! Isnt that exactly what Duane said, when saying it was not good to leave poop in the woods!? Do you think the FBI got the poop? Be a Blue Fairy and tell us... the whole poopy story! Is there anything I have left out. ?

IF the FBI really thinks that non steerable canopy+ unsuitable shoes/clothes=death they are laughably wrong. If he pulled and didn't land in water Cooper very likely survived the jump. Anyone could have. Landing a round chute is a lot easier than a square for a novice. Galen Cook is a smart guy with a healthy dose of skepticism. If he thinks Gossett is Cooper he is basing it on more than what the kid said about his Dad. Gossett may have been just another wannabe but I wouldn't rule him out just yet. At least we can put Gossett in a chute without having to spin anything. He had the ability and his precarious financial condition gave him a motive. He knew the area well and had Ft Lewis connections. 377 ... and like Duane he was Nosferatu, a shape shifter, and could contort his skull and jaw to fit any shape, in precognition of posters that would be coming out later. Z-rays enable nosferatu to have that ability. Sharpen your stakes. There's a lot of work to be done! BTL GND was mentioned by the FBI eons ago. Many interviews, much searching, and much private activity combing out that area. Sprinkle Jo-dust on it and the Blue Fairy will talk!

Why would "spy satellites" be photographing this area of Washington at the time, at night, through clouds... and put Himmeslbach in danger from Z-rays?

Yawn................................... which part? [edit] seems I already did the first time. Guess you have some reading to do. [edit#2] ... and the second time I talked about it. You do have reading to do. But, IF you get off your high horse and ask nicely I might provide it, free of grief. It's all up to you.

good. ok.

The Doppler velocity filters would eliminate the rain reflections as they are going too slow to meet the frequency shift criteria to pass through as a likely aircraft target. The issue would be signal attenuation with all the rain between the radar transceiver and the target of interest. ATC radar is usually very powerful so that its performance is not materially impaired in normal rainfall. It just kills me that there was probably a brief Cooper exit echo before his forward velocity decayed below the Doppler cutoff and perhaps nobody even looked for it. Reply> Huh? Care to translate that ? Sure, although I bet you know all about it without my explanation. ATC radar wants to see only aircraft. The designers build in filters that exclude echoes from stationary or very slow moving targets, using Doppler shift to calculate speed. http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/395288/moving-target-indication-radar When Cooper exited, his body forward speed was about the same as the plane's hence his echo would be displayed. His forward speed would decay as the jump progressed eventually putting him below the Doppler cutoff and his echo would no longer be displayed. For a few seconds, Cooper's exit echo may have been displayed but unnoticed. That's why I want to know what happened to the tapes. East coast ATC radar operators in the early 70s could see jumpers exiting 60 miles away. Some controllers could give the jumpship pilots an accurate count of how many jumpers just exited. I have personally spoken with both FAA and military air traffic controllers who have seen exiting jumpers on their radar screens. It is not urban legend. 377 good reply, understood. Can this old radar distingish a body from a chute? I wonder if anyone has ever filed a FOI request for the McChord tapes ? I doubt it. Presumably the trailing jets didnt get a radar return either?

Thomas is one of the key people Ive always wanted to talk to - his work is highly respected. Georger

The Doppler velocity filters would eliminate the rain reflections as they are going too slow to meet the frequency shift criteria to pass through as a likely aircraft target. The issue would be signal attenuation with all the rain between the radar transceiver and the target of interest. ATC radar is usually very powerful so that its performance is not materially impaired in normal rainfall. It just kills me that there was probably a brief Cooper exit echo before his forward velocity decayed below the Doppler cutoff and perhaps nobody even looked for it. Reply> Huh? Care to translate that ?

A better question: Since this feeds directly into the CIA/FBI coverup of Duane's involvement, how come Jo has never pursued this? It would seem to be stronger evidence of her claims of a coverup. Jo? why not? When Duane jumped out, they had him on tape. The tapes are gone. Maybe Jo is part of the coverup too? Jo? Jo who? Who is Jo Weber? Nosferatu don't surf!

I have said it before, but we have first hand testimony from jump pilots and controllers that ATC radar of that era could not only see jumpers exiting but in enough detail for accurate counts. 377 If they were looking for it (at PDX). Back scatter in the rainy conditions would have affected other more distant stations following 305. The FBI flight path map is based on radar data from somebody. One of the pilots following 305 saw 305 flash its strobe as Cooper bailed, but could not see a parachute (maybe there was no parachute to see!). But its my understanding there is sufficient data between the Transcript and the FP map to zero in on a narrow drop zone IF Rataczak's testimony is accurate ...

Thats not entirely true. A report was due to be released in March, or did you not believe it? Maybe the report will be held back. Im not currently sure. Sluggo's info is new and I hope his friend comes here, asap.