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I do not know them personally, but if they think nano-thermite was used they are sorely mistaken. Do you even know what nao-thermite is? What it is made of? How it is used? And, most importantly, the composition of any residue? I urge you to go back to Kallends post and look at the chart he typed in that compares temperatures to color. But, since you seem to understand that organic material mixed in with molten aluminum will also glow orange/red, what is it that prevents you from accepting that it was aluminum and not stel that was pouring out? Everybody agrees on both sides that the temps never got high enough for steel to melt so that aspect is a non-issue. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Probably since in this instance the cement floor, carpet, etc. was in the same area and was subjected to the same heat. It's a shame that you push aside simple physics so that your theory holds true. It is then very ironic to accuse Bill of not knowing how proper experimentation is done. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

So then you didn't really mean it when you said, "I would be surprised if any state defines Justifyable Homicide differently than allowing a person to kill another while protecting a 3rd person." Got it. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

No, you're not. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

And your pulling that out of your ass under the giuse of liberal states are icky. Ridiculous logic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justifiable_homicide A non-criminal homicide, usually committed in self-defense or in defense of another, may be called in some cases in the United States. A homicide may be considered justified if it is done to prevent a very serious crime, such as rape, armed robbery, or murder. The assailant's intent to commit a serious crime must be clear at the time. A homicide performed out of vengeance, or retribution for action in the past, would generally not be considered justifiable. AND: The circumstances under which homicide is justified are usually considered to be that the defendant had no alternative method of self-defense or defense of another than to kill the attacker. In fact here is California statute referrenced: Two other forms of justifiable homicide are unique to the prison system: the death penalty and preventing prisoners from escaping. To quote the California State Penal Code (state law) that covers justifiable homicide: 196. Homicide is justifiable when committed by public officers and those acting by their command in their aid and assistance, either-- 1. In obedience to any judgment of a competent Court; or, 2. When necessarily committed in overcoming actual resistance to the execution of some legal process, or in the discharge of any other legal duty; or, 3. When necessarily committed in retaking felons who have been rescued or have escaped, or when necessarily committed in arresting persons charged with felony, and who are fleeing from justice or resisting such arrest. Although the above text is from Californian law, most jurisdictions have similar laws to prevent escapees from custody. So altho I find your guessing that liberal states must somehow love criminals, I also find it boring as usual. In regards to your previous post, "I would be surprised if any state defines Justifyable Homicide differently than allowing a person to kill another while protecting a 3rd person," are you now surprised at how California defines it? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Yeah, most of them looked like they would rather be somewhere else. Like studying. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

At app. 8:28 as the cameras were panning the audience they just happened to catch a sleeping Cadet. I'd hate to be in his shoes tomorrow morning. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

There were enough officers and medical persons involved that if he were even wearing a t-shirt with "Bud" on the back we would have known about it. Just too many people involved to keep any sign of alcohol a secret. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I am sorry you are unwilling to believe in the laws of physics that have been demonstrated untold times through the ages. Any engineer or physicist...ANY....would be surprised if a molten mass of aluminum with organic materials mixed in didn't appear as it did in the pics of the tower shortly before collapse. So two photos were accidently included. Toss 'em out and explain the rest of them. Several people here are trying to help you understand that aluminum does indeed glow varying colors but you refuse to accept the fact, even though it is basic, and I mean very basic, physics at work. Stuff kids too young to drive study in high school and understand very well. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

It is only when we celebrate the achievements of others with them that we are happy and content as a group. If people only celebrated their own achievements the world would be a very, very lonely place. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

wow, the fires reached "at least" 800 degrees, so aluminium that has fallen hundreds of feet in a shower through cool morning air would still be 800 degrees? you really are stretching your imagination there Bill. Let me tell you, aluminium remains silver well after it melts, you have to increase the heat significantly to produce a glowing orange of that shade, keeping it that hot while falling hundreds of feet? well, you decide! You seem quite content with your thoughts and observations so i'll leave you with them. Attached is a photo of molten aluminiun just to refresh you memory. What are your thoughts on this? http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/aluminum/glowing.html But don't just take somebody's word for it, especially given the site i linked to. You can prove it to yourself quite easily with an aluminum can and a propane torch. Don't forget something to measure the temps with. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Ya know, Bill, we really do need a little green faced jealousy emoticon to use in threads like this one. Kinda like the "mad" emoticon, only green. With smoke coming out the ears. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Don't tell William J. Clinton or Barrack H. Obama. Come to think of it, the house I grew up in didn't have running water until I was 6. My parents moved in there when I was 2...and it was an upgrade from where they had lived. I went to college, got my degree, and now live comfortably looking forward to retirement. Yeah, you're right. Class mobility is a thing of the past. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Music, please.

No, my rub on this nation is that if you can put a ball in a hole 270 yards away in 3 strokes, you're awesome, 2 strokes brilliant, 1 stroke a god. However, volunteer at the shelter, raise kids right while in poverty, ect and you're a loser. This nation is such a turd when it comes to its value ssytem. Call it jealousy if you wish, it's not about Tiger, it's about the corrupt system. So these people make a living off their worthless skills, the media is all over them when it feels good, their there when it doesn't; too bad. So grab a set of clubs, or a football, or a baseball bat and have at it. The only person stopping you from making millions by beating Tiger at his own game is you. Of course you may not be athletically gifted. That's ok, because you can also make a lot of money...even more than Tiger...by using your brain. Just ask Bill Gates. Once again, the only person standing in your way is YOU. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

and a small chunk? falling through the air, like in the photo attached to this post. would you find it reasonable to assume aluminium would behave in this manner? Yes. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

The only nocturnal squirrels I know of are Flying Squirrels (they actually glide, not fly) but I don't think they live in Florida. Too many SUVs. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Good job, Bill. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

you dismiss the information based on its source? When that source is as biased as the ones you posted, yes. you are saying that "if someone wants an new investigation, they are wrong" you are saying anyone that thinks differently to me is wrong" I never said that, but when there is NO REASONABLE EVIDENCE for a new investigation than it is pointless to have one. try refuting its contents and not 'judging a book by its cover'. Yes I would care to address it, I asked if you believe that moulten aluminium will continue to glow orange while falling hundreds of feet through the New York morning air, and if it will freely mix with organic matter to obtain this colour.' I may have missed your reponse, but do not recall seeing it, what is your response? Yes, it will continue to "glow" orange, red, and shades thereof. Yes, it will freely mix with organic materials but they do not substantially affect the color. That is mostly a product of the temperature. If you like I can recommend a basic physics textbook that explains it very well. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Backing your claims with links to truther sites is another way of saying "Of course it's the truth...just ask me." Now, for the third time, do you care to address the molten aluminum question, or can we take your silence on the matter to be a concession? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Absolutely. I have been saying all along that "if" they did not have an invite, "if" they lied, etc. Could be they were invited at the last minute and their names never put on any official guest list HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Would you care to respond to my question about the orange/red glowing aluminum or are you going to ignore facts? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

The more important question: how did they get this flight recorder if it never actually hit the Pentagon, as seems to be the claim of the day? Magic HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

So back to the question we started with last week. Do you understand and accept that the orenge/red glowing pool flowing from the corner of the tower shortly before it's total collapse was molten aluminum and not steel? If not, why not? Let's settle one myth before moving on to the next. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

What an amusing letter. Here's a question for you, Rhys; Where the fuck did the plane go? So the CIT's say they have found lots of people who saw the plane flying into the Pentagon from the wrong direction to be the thing that hit it. OK. But if the plane didn't hit it, it would have just kept on flying. Did the CIT mention finding one solitary soul who saw the plane flying away in the other direction after the explosion? Did they fuck, because they're lying fucking idiots. Sounds like a good plot for an episode of Fringe HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.