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I know several people who have taken the life of another in a war. None will talk about it unless specifically asked and a couple won't discuss it even then. With that in mind i think it is safe to say I have friends who have killed in combat but i will never know they did. Virtually everyone I know that will start a discussion about the pros and cons of different types of guns for combat and self defense has never had to use one in either of those situations. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Darn. I saw the thread title and was hoping there was a big sale on leftover malted milk balls. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I feel the most important lesson in his writings and, unfortunately, the most ignored is that the ultimate goal is to win the battle with never having engaged the enemy. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I wonder if his guns were legally owned? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34640375/ns/world_news-europe/ Somehow I think it doesn't matter to those he killed. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

"The capacity for getting along with our neighbor depends to a large extent on the capacity for getting along with ourselves. The self-respecting individual will try to be as tolerant of his neighbor's shortcomings as he is of his own." -Eric Hoffer HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

You did? Where, oh where, did you do that? If you had you would have received a few days off from one of the mods. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

QUIT THE PA'S, COP. Awww....did poor widdle Wucky's feewings get hurt? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Don't you just hate it when somebody resuurects a 2-month dead thread? They're (the threads) like zombies that just won't go away. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

The American Medical Association has weighed in on the new health care plan being developed by Congress and the Obama Administartion. The allergists voted to scratch it, but the dermatologists advised not to make any rash moves. The gastroenterologists had sort of a gut feeling about it, but the neurologists thought the Administration had a lot of nerve. Ophthalmologists considered the idea short sighted. Pathologists yelled, "Over my dead body!" while the pediatricians said, "Oh, grow up!" The psychiatrists thought the whole idea was madness, while the radiologists could see right through it. Surgeons decided to wash their hands of the whole thing while the internists thought it was abitter pill to swallow. The plastic surgeons said,"This puts a whole new face on the matter." The podiatrists thought it was a step forward, but the obstetricians felt they were all laboring under a misconception. The anesthsiologists thought the idea was a gas, and the cardiologists didn't have the heart to say no. In the end, though, the proctologists won out, leaving the entire decision up to the asses in Washington. From Ridin' On Motorcycle Magazine HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I didn't have big brother in mind while writing my posts. If you only drive 30 miles a day and never more, then all you "need" is a car with a little over 30 mile range for you normal daily transportation. But one problem with that is nobody, myself included, would be happy with a car that met our needs and offered nothing more. I only "need" a balanced diet that meets my caloric requirements, but i "want" food that tastes good and not the same thing every day. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Why haven't you tried to explain why the column stubs are empty? As I said, they would be filled with debris if the Tin Hat theory of conrolled demolition is correct. We don't have to agree. We don't even have to agree to disagree. I have based my opinions on solid fact and scientific principles, you have based yours on Tin Hat websites and YouTube videos. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

That's strictly a transitional artifact. 50 years from now people will associate the whine of an electric motor with power in ways that will make a supercharged V-8 sound "quaint" like a steam engine. MMMMH the strident sound of a brushless emotor

Contrary to what you may think, I actually look forward to the day when we have at least half the cars on the highways at any given time powered by just electricity. The reduction in carbon footprint alone will be worth the effort, then there are numerous other benefits. But the fact is that at this time the electric cars will do what most people need but not what they want. People want a car that goes 350 miles between fillups, will cruise that far at 75 mph, and will carry 5 people plus luggage while doing so. That car is a long, long way in the future. What most people need is a car that will go 20-40 miles between charges at 50-60 mph and can carry 2-4 people. Those cars are what can be bought right now. The Tesla seems to have a bit of a range advantage. I'm not a "glass half empty" person, I just see things for what they are without letting my imagination cloud the facts. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I think if you read the discussion here you would see that there is an agreemnet between two very experienced welders that the column in the picture was cut with a torch, albeit sloppily. Of course, you are welcome to dispute that based on your own knowledge. The one very telling detail that shows it was cut post-collapse is the lack of debris inside the remaining portion. You failed to mention that. Building 7 is not mentioned in the 911 commision report for a very good reason....the report is about the towers, not building 7. No mention is otherwise made of any of the other buildings destroyed that day. Buildings that are buring suffer much different structural damage than those affected by earthquakes. Internal fires damage, well, internal structure. The same structure that is intentionally destoyed during demolition. Earthquakes tend to damage more on the perimeter of a structure leading to a much different type of collapse. The collapse of building 7 was exactly what would be expected from a building that had been buring internally, uncontrolled, for several hours. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

My opinion is that on that particular column the cuts on the sides were started farthest from the camera positon and worked toward the side with all the slag. When the worker got to the corner with the torch he didn't make the turn around the corner very well and made a freakin' mess. Probably messed up his torch tip in the process too. Or he used a torch like the one in the second link you posted. I'd hate to foot the bill to feed that monster! HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Yep Hell no! HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Depending on battery capacity, 45 inutes to 80% may be ok on occasion, but i wouldn't want to do that every time. A good BMS is crucial. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Almost all. GM allowed about a dozen to stay with Universities as long as they were being used for research purposes. GM still owns them and thus they will never be in private hands. Someday those few will join their brothers, save for a couple for the museums. What range are the people at you company getting with their Teslas? Are they happy with the car as a whole? I saw a Ford Edge concept vehicle that was somewhat cool. It was converted to all electric drive with an onboard H2 fuel cell that would recharge the batteries when needed. Since fuel cells "like" to operate withing very specific parameters....flow rates, temps, etc....this made for an efficient use of the fuel cell. But it still has the drawbacks of any H2 vehicle. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I can understand and respect your bias against "imagineers". I have run into many of the type you describe and can't figure for the life of me how they ever got a degree. Trust me when I say you have my sympathies for having to work with them. I agree carbon arc was most likely not used to cut these. The way those buggers throw sparks everyone withing half a block would be in danger! The slag stuck to the column could be from two causes. One case would be if the cuts along the sides were started away from the slag side and finished by cutting both through the side and part of the adjacent plate. Besides suddenly cutting through much more material the torch would also have to deal with the changing cross section of the weld and any separated layers that weren't fully welded. I'm sure you know how messy it gets when trying to torch through two or more pieces at once. Another case would be if the torch was cutting in from the slag side and was being rushed, therefore not blowing the slag out the backside as it should. But I doubt that was the case. Most likely it was the first case plus being in a hurry. I've attached a pic showing other columns that appear to have been cut in the same manner. I would say your estimate of the thickness would be very close. 2" looks about right. Some of the columns were bent and twisted in ways you would not think possible. I saw a picture of one that was bent like an "N". HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

The claimed top speed is easy to see. But I would be very surprised if they can achieve their goal of 300 miles on one charge. They also claim a 45 minute charge. That may be possible, but it will kill the batteries in short order. If Tesla can deliver a 160 mile range at 60 mph and overnight (8 hr) charging they should consider that a success. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

the Tesla Model S can do most of that. 300 mile range at 120 MPH with a 0-60 time of less than 6 sec. Holds 5 adults. It is also designed to do a 5 min battery swap. It's just not a truck so it may not be able to haul your boat. Also read up on the other vehicles. It's here, the only argument now a days is the price. All the rich go-green guys are eating up the initial start up costs for the average person (except Al Gore) Sorry, but it is claimed to have a range of 250 miles and a top speed of 120, but it most definitely does not have a range of 300 miles at 120 mph. People want an electric car that will give the same range and performance as their IC engined car. Problem is, just the materials needed to make the batteries to obtain that sort of power storage would weigh as much as a sub-compact IC car. And that's not even counting the battery case, motor, inverter, etc. The other problem is charging. People want 350 mile range and 15 minute recharge. Only way to do that is battery swap. The current needed for that charge rate would require enormous cables and would most likely destroy the batteries that, by the way, prefer a nice slooooow charge. Electric cars will best fill the niche of commuter vehicles. The driving done by most people is commuting to work or taking kids to school and adds up to less than 40 miles a day. 80% of people drive less than 40 miles per day....whcih happens to fall very nicely into a realistc goal of what an electric car can do given an 8-10 hour period to recharge without killing the batteries. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Pick a story and stick to it! God loves us non-believers.

I wouldn't worry too much about Bill doing his job. He is, for the most part, fair to all and has given me a "timeout" in the past. I look forward to your explanation of how a beam that was obviously cut with a torch post-collapse was instead somehow cut with thermite. Keep these points in mind: Thermite cutting relies on gravity. Horizontal cutting is extremely inefficient especially on thick members. The beam pictured is cut much too cleanly for any type of thermite cutting let alone horizontal. The beam pictured is empty. If it had been severed before or during the collapse it would be filled with debris as would all the rest that can be seen in other pictures. There is slag laying just under the cut section. If this had been done before collapse that slag would not still be laying there. Your response promises to be, shall we say, "enlightening". HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Regardless of how it was cut, if it was a demolition job, why was it cut at all? Assuming that it's not just coincidence that the beam is standing bolt upright, it was cut not far off ground level. Seeing as the WTC towers collapsed from the top down, you'd think that the demolishers would realise that the god-knows-how-many-thousand tons of concrete and steel coming down on the lower floors would be enough to do the job, and wouldn't be so stupid as to leave unneccessary tell tale signs sticking up from the foundations for all to see. But that's just my opinion. If the tin hats would examine their own photo a bit closer they would see evidence against their own argument. Just beneath the cut showing heavy slag deposites is...OMG!...a pile of slag! If the column were cut pre-collapse that slag would not be just laying there, it would have been moved. Notice anything about the coulumn itself? It is a box structure. An EMPTY box structure. If it had been cut pr-collapse it would have been filled to the top with debris from the 100+ stories of building collapsing around it. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I started welding and fabbing when i was about 9 years old and have held certification in GMAW, SMAW, and GTAW. I now have a BSME and CWI/CWE. I have inspected failures caused by more "I know more than the engineers" thinking people like you than you could ever imagine. Ever hear of the Alexander Kielland? 123 dead because the welder "knew more than the engineers". Sun Oil Co. in King of Prussia, PA? NOVA Gas Transmission in Edmonton? Those also the result of wleders who "knew more than the engineers". What I can tell you is this: Those columns were cut with a torch post-collapse during demolition/cleanup/recovery efforts. Slag would be expected and normal under the circumstances. If you believe otherwise you are not much of a welder. Sorry if the truth hurts. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.