Belgian_Draft

I don't think the Kent State killers were very honorable. Neither were the less-than-intelligent students who threw rocks at them and got innocent people killed. The President's Commission on Campus Unrest concluded that "the indiscriminate firing of rifles into a crowd of students and the deaths that followed were unnecessary, unwarranted, and inexcusable." Are you sure you want to go there? I will reply to your post and lucky's at the same time. My comments are based upon the events of those days as told to me by people who were there. One man was a teacher of mine in high school, the other a close friend of my family. BOTH of them have said the same thing, that the students who were the first to start throwing things at the NG that day had went to that area with the intent of inciting a violent reaction from the NG. Well, they got what they wanted. Unfortunately the troops that were sent were mostly undertrained and unsure of what to do. Even more unfortunately, students were killed who had nothing to do with the protests other than being in the wrong place at the wrong time. What happened that day would not have happened had the government sent troops who were more experienced with crowds. They should also NOT have been given live ammo. That was a stupid thing to do. It also would not have happened had the protesters not started throwing objects at the troops. It is a pretty stupid thing to throw rocks at men armed with rifles. Argue what you will, my opinion of what happened is shaped by two men who were there and watched it happen. They, as well as myself, agree with the statement you quoted from the Presidents Commision. What most people don't acknowledge is the fact that the protesters were not innocent little angels. They went looking for trouble, they found it, and they got people killed. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I don't think the Kent State killers were very honorable. Neither were the less-than-intelligent students who threw rocks at them and got innocent people killed. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Well, at least you have come to accept the FACT that RR did have poor eyesight. GWB served stateside. GHWB flew in the Pacific. GHWB was the only ho0norable serviceman in a long time, I never brought that in. I'm sure he personally and privately disowns his drug addicted draft-dodging kid. Yea, FR had poor eyesight, but it was good enough to enlist in the guard/reserve in 1937, wasn't an issue until the pussy was called to WWII to fight. Oh and GWB played around with fighters stateside, he never even almost went to Nam. I think you are dead wrong about GHW's opinion of his son. But we'll never know for certain, will we? RR held down a desk. It doesn't take very good eyesight to do that. It's my opinion vs yours, but GHWBnever brags him up, so the silence is deafening - acquiescence. No, doing a desk job or making movies requires little eyesight, but whne he was guard/reserve for 5 years before, gotta wonder how he slid past that. Quite obvious his eyesight was sufficent, when it came to going to war to perhaps die, the men go, the cowards flee. And this wasn't VN, this was where the greatest generation saved our asses. With all the proxy wars over ideological disputes, this one was actually over freedom and these were really tough guys stepping up. My dad's brother died in Germany in WWII, my dad served in Korea, well, in that period in N Africa. Reagan's a cunt, even if you like his failed politics and failed economic policies, he's a cunt. Maybe if you actually knew something about how the military was run in those times and the sequence of events that led to him getting into the service you wouldn't sound so fucking stupid when you accuse people of dodging military service when the FACT is that physical disablities stand in their way. My father served in the Merchant Marine and i woanted very much to join the Navy, but this little thing called spina bifida made me ineligible. Reagan actually volunteered for active duty and was at first turned down, then accepted for non-combat duty only after he insisted on a second physical. But I, nor anyone else here, expects you to pay any attention to the facts. Your too busy watching Perry Mason and Matlock to take time and actually learn anything. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

You 'think' or you 'know'? What is it that you base this assertion on? Do you even fucking READ what people post?? If you did you would not have to ask that stupid ass question. You claim to be successful and overachieve at everything. Excuse me, but the freakin' stupid shit you post here makes that very, VERY hard to believe. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Well, at least you have come to accept the FACT that RR did have poor eyesight. GWB served stateside. GHWB flew in the Pacific. GHWB was the only ho0norable serviceman in a long time, I never brought that in. I'm sure he personally and privately disowns his drug addicted draft-dodging kid. Yea, FR had poor eyesight, but it was good enough to enlist in the guard/reserve in 1937, wasn't an issue until the pussy was called to WWII to fight. Oh and GWB played around with fighters stateside, he never even almost went to Nam. I think you are dead wrong about GHW's opinion of his son. But we'll never know for certain, will we? RR held down a desk. It doesn't take very good eyesight to do that. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I'm assuming you didn't enlist. No, I didn't. But it wasn't for lack of trying. The military tends to avoid people with chronic back problems. What does that have to do with anything? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

If you're in the military then you're either doing the killing yourself or you are supporting in some manner those who do the killing. And I understand that the military does humanitarian work and all the rest, but the primary purpose is to kill "enemies". And you point is what? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37067954/ns/politics/ What say ye? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Yep. And Cleveland pitcher Robert William Andrew "Bob" Feller joined the Navy on December 8, 1941 and spent four prime years of his baseball career on the USS Alabama. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Well, at least you have come to accept the FACT that RR did have poor eyesight. GWB served stateside. GHWB flew in the Pacific. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Eddie Rickenbacker "Courage is doing what you are afraid to do. There can be no courage unless you are scared. " and another.. My Daddy

I think he did, but I also think it is one of those situations where if a judge had to decide it would come down to whether the judge got laid the night before. It's really walking a thin line. But I agree. Life shouldn't be about who can be the sleaziest without crossing the line. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

John Kennedy: Incompetent Naval Officer HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

The difference is that he broke the law and was dishonest! does that run in the family? You also broke the law are were dishonest. You also don't understand how/why what you did was wrong regardless of how many people explain it to you. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Rhys' technique is based on Calvinball. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvin_and_Hobbes#Calvinball Other kids' games are all such a bore! They've gotta have rules and they gotta keep score! Calvinball is better by far! It's never the same! It's always bizarre! You don't need a team or a referee! You know that it's great, 'cause it's named after me! —The Calvinball theme song[45] HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I have a nephew who, when he was a teenager, spent a lot of time in custody of the courts. He had a very simple problem...he thought anything that wasn't fastened down or in the physical possession of somebody was free to take. Tools, car parts, you name it and he probably stole it at some point. In his mind he was doing no wrong. Your "justification" of your actions are eerily similar. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Yep! Aaron's also. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Fraud includes intent. You have documented your intent here on this forum. Not wise. Fraud includes withholding information. Whether you like it or not, whether you agree with it or not, you have committed fraud. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

By knowing when you bought the item that you had no intent to keep it and, in fact, had every intent to return it. You knew when you did so that if you had disclosed this information to Wal-Mart they would not have sold you the item. It is a very simple case of fraud. You did not just "use the system" to your advantage, you committed a crime. Not the most intelligent thing to admit to criminal activity on a forum anyone can easily gain access to and read. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Once again you make a claim and then, when proven wrong, you backpedal and place retroactive conditions on your claim until it is so narrowly defined it only applies in a very specific situation. MAJOR FAIL!! HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

In the in terest of fair trading, if there was an error, people need to be made whole agian, not 2 x whole, 3 x whole, etc. Now if there was no error, then let it pay where it sits. Ethical trading is a foreign term for conservatives it seems. I think the RW mind works like this: If you stole the money and got away, it's all legal. The possession rule is right in line with RWers. Sorry to burst yer bubble, pal, but breaking ethics rules in the trading world knows no party lines. Libs are just as guilty as conservs, Repubs just as guilty as Dems. Yea, good one. The R's are well-known for the Robin Hood syndrome. Oh, you mean like Joseph Kennedy Sr. ? Like I said, unethical trading practices know no party lines. It is obvious you are blind to that fact. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

In the in terest of fair trading, if there was an error, people need to be made whole agian, not 2 x whole, 3 x whole, etc. Now if there was no error, then let it pay where it sits. Ethical trading is a foreign term for conservatives it seems. I think the RW mind works like this: If you stole the money and got away, it's all legal. The possession rule is right in line with RWers. Sorry to burst yer bubble, pal, but breaking ethics rules in the trading world knows no party lines. Libs are just as guilty as conservs, Repubs just as guilty as Dems. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

There's a reason for this. An English friend said to me, I kid you not, "There are two tastes, sweet and savoury". I said "Well no wonder English food is so bad, you only got one of the four basic tastes right." That said, the English do make pretty kickass breakfasts. Yes, English do make pretty good breakfasts. They are a pretty tasty lunch and dinner too. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

There goes the neighborhood. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

....and then only if mustard and/or relish are not available. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.