Belgian_Draft

I was watching my brothers kids one weekend several years ago when the toilet suddenly backed up for no apparent reason. I borrowed a snake from my buddy and fished around until I pulled out a...get this...a CARROT! I'm holding a 6 inch long carrot in my hand and ask out loud, in a rhetorical manner, "How in the hell did a carrot get in the toilet???" My 4-year-old nephew got a very, very guilty expression, his face blushed slightly, and he departed the vicinity. Case closed. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I voted "other". This is the one i follow. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Father,_the_Son,_and_the_Holy_Fonz HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

3 of your posts with ZERO of the issue. I posted all kinds of data, another guy posted a copy of the bill, yet all you have to do is bitch about me; do you think anyone here isn't aware that you're outta gas? Actually, I HAVE no reply to most anything you post since i don't read the vast majority of the trash. So you are, in effect, engaged in a debate with someone who isn't taking part. But it has been clear in the past that is the only debate you can win. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

See what I mean? One good thing about lucky.....he tends to prove people right when they tell the truth about his "debate techniques". HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Trying to have a sensible discussion with lucky is virtually impossible. Trying to have a civil discussion with him is even tougher. Lately I just drop out of a discussion once he starts his "fascist Pig Ronnie" rhetoric. If he wants to claim victory, then he can go right ahead. He only proves over and over that he is incapable of conversation with anyone with an IQ over 37. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

That's disgusting. They should at least wash down the walls and floors when they are done. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Well, I posted my opinion this morning and when I get back from the hospital I see two more pages of posts. Unfortunately the thread had degenrated into political name calling and references to how a now dead President can be blamed for all of it, all because somebody dared state an opinion they didn't like. Its too bad some people here have to fuck up what started as, and could have been, an informative exchange of views in a lot of threads. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

ALL of them? Really? I think if you look at the numbers it is actually a very small number. Ok, I'll bite. What part of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights is being violated? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Really? Tell that to your fellow native-born American citizen in the article who was placed under arrest for being a spic. It sounds harsh and i know I'll get slammed here for saying this, but here it is: With millions of illegals living here in the US and ontold numbers coming in every month, I feel it is worth a rare incident of an innocent being arrested and questioned if it can significantly reduce the number of illegals. Innocent people are arrested every day and released because they match the description of someone who broke the law, and most of the time it is not immigration laws. If you are expecting that only guilty people will ever be arrested then you are living in a fantasy world. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

The attitude of the bill is that most illegals in Arizona are Mexican, not that most Mexicans are illegals. The way I see it there is no racial profiling going on, just an honest, factual dealing with what is happening which is a failure of the US Government and the Mexican Government to deal with the issue in a somewhat meaningful manner. After all, we don't have a millions of Canadians sneeking across the border. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Gun??? ... what gun?? It's there, trust me on this one. It took me a while to find. I had to scan her bod inch-by-inch. Several times. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I kinda like where this gal keeps hers. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Why would a psychic need a web site to tell them when and where the expos were being held? http://www.psychicfairs.net/index.php If they really are psychic they would just know. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I think a better analogy would be if somebody were follwing him in a small sports car and was trying to jam a crowbar into the rear wheel of his motorcycle. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Never stated that and i challenge you to show me where i did. No shit, Sherlock. It took you long enough to admit that. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

that's true, that would be befitting of our arrogance to be unique, however, there are other possibilities of multi-verse and such (only theories) I see a common pattern here: each time either when we have made great discoveries in Cosmology or at the cusp of making some, religion someohow finds a way to accomodate it into its teachings in order to pacify and apease the followers. just an oveservation. I couldn't have said it better. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Nothing like using a ten-gazillion dollar carbon fiber speedboat as a wheel chock for a whaler. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

If you consider that there are somewhere around 10^24 stars in the universe, it would be very shocking to find out that there is NOT any life other than on earth. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

...and Money = More small boats for the Japanese to sink. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Lucky, you sure have a way of forming people's views to what you think they are. I never said that the right to free speech is absolute. In fact, i have stated here more than once that it has limits. I know what jury nullification is. Don't need to look it up like you did. Your bringing the concept into the discussion shows just how far you want to stretch to prove whatever point it is you are trying to prove. Like I said, when you get a REAL law degree, then you can preach. Until then your opinion is meaningless. (But if I want to know how to file papers I know who to ask ) And why, oh why, do you keep posting the same rhetorical BS over and over? Is it just so you have something to reply to? You started off by saying we don't have the right to free speech concerning racial bigotry, now you have slowly backstepped and now have narrowed it down to very specific circumstances, which is what several of us have been trying to tell you. I'm glad to see you have finally come around and see the light.

Ok, now I understand where you are coming from. 1: Lucky decides what should be protected under the 1st. If you don't like his decision then fuck ye, you're an asshole. But only lucky is allowed to say so. 2: Lucky knows what the jury will decise so we can dispense with the formallity of having one and just ask lucky what the verdict is. 3: No need for law schools. A two year CJ degree and watching Matlock will suffice. Hey, it worked for lucky! HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Sorry, watching Matlock doesn't count. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Ok, I'll put the old one back. Or something similar. This any better? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Key word there being "intent". Being the world famous legal expert you are you should know that and how hard it can be to prove intent. Being the forum layperson I will help. Intent = mens rea; virtually all criminal cases must have a culmination of mens rea and actus reaus, whether explicitly stated or not. Civil cases need only have actus reus. Again, you wanna go to the south side, find a run down BB court with a bunch of locals playing ball and say, "Hey, you niggers wanna get a job and quit living off my welfare" or some other brilliant neck passage? Now go before a jury and see how they view the intent. Or even a civil rights meet, go downtown and start yelling, "You fucking niggers just want everything for free" or some other tea bagger expression of freedom of speech and if a riot or even small disorder breaks out, see how that works in front of a jury. I could go on and list examples, but the key here is based upon ends justify the means, if nothing breaks out, you won't get the requisite police attention and might get away, but if a black person views this ignorance as unacceptable and decides to swing, it's basically on you. You provoked it - you own it; scream 1st all you want, the courts are here to set a tone to avoid LA riots and the like, fuck your Const rights. Think a jury would find any different? And in Nazizona you don't get a jury unless they are seeking time. BTW, intent is proven through the totality of circumstances, in most cases where the N-bomb is dropped with people of color present, there is an assumed intent perceived that observers should recognize it won't go over well. Either way, intent is an issue for a jury, so rots-a-ruck with that one. As you said, it is an issue for a jury. Which makes your entire argument and issue for a jury. Which mean your acting like you know what the outcome would be is, as usual, a bunch of BS. When you get a REAL law degree, then we will listen. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.