Belgian_Draft

Beam me up, Jesus! HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I can think of three sexually transmitted diseases that can lead to premature death, and one of them is incurable. I can think of five offhand. Hmm...I wonder what that says about myself? But HEY! None are named after me. That's a good thing, right?

Nobody is ever wrong on the net. There are only various degrees of rightness. Unfortunately there are those whose rightness coefficient approaches negative infinity. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

But only by choice, not through necessity. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I think it should be treated the same as alcohol. You should be able to own a gun if you use the drug (alcohol or weed) legally but if you are under the influence and use the gun then your ass belongs to the judge. If you are under the influence and hurt somebody with that gun, then the judge can transfer possession of your ass to a guy named Bubba who you will share a cell with for the next 5-15 years. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Nope but I know of at least 1100 that do. You sure do get your stories mixed up, I can't even take you seriously anymore. Oh, you want to single out the Pentagon now? Why? Because it doesn't match your theory on the other aircraft? Why do you think the hijackers couldn't fly a 172? Are you now claiming the flight schools they attended are also part of the big conspiracy? Don't you think if there was a conspiracy the leaders of it would have thought to arrange a "tragic accident" to eliminate anyone at the school who would have discredited their claims? "Nope but I know of at least 1100 that do." That's it? Of tens of millions of engineers around the world you can find only 1100 to back you up? Why don't you start answering some of the questions put to you here instead of jumping from subject to subject to avoid them? Such as why doesn't siesmograph data from the time of the trade center collapses indicate the explosions you are so certain took place? Why, after almost 9 years, do we not yet have a single person to come forth and say they helped plan an/or execute the planting of explosives in the towers out of the hundreds of people it would have taken to do so? Shroud Science. That's all you have and it isn't worth the ink needed to write it. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Are you an engineer or physicist? Do you have some other level of expertise that allows you to make that call? The hijackers had training in small aircraft. Professional airline pilots I know all say the same thing: A few hours in a small plane, a few hours in a sim and anyone can steer an ailiner into a building. Probably even you. The aircraft did not hit flat and level. Both were in a descent and slightly banked. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

So you're up to your armpits in war, and the results from this said investigation have not yet been found, and the suspect has been tortured over and over again, and you think your government is doing the right thing? Your logic, just like your goverments false pretences are a big old fabrication. It surprises me that so many of you are willing to defend the very tyrants that strip you of your liberties, your tax dollars and your countries foundations. You mock those that point out the truth, yet the very people you are defending will shit on you at the drop of a hat because they do not care about america or democracy or justice, they want absolute power, and acccess to all the recources they want to futher continue the stranglehold on the gloabl economy and therefore the global power. PNAC and all the movements are plain evidence of this, but the majority are too engulfed in thier faux media and busy lives to see what is really happening. unfortunately for them, they will not succeed becase apathy is need for them to succeed. the MSM are weakening like never seen before. It is easy for anyone to study the events and see that your logic is deeply flawed. You stand behind your professon as if that is credible, but you ny insult thse you work with and the company you work for by defending such lies. you are deep in it now though arent you, there is no turning back? Do you realize you have lost any sense of reason you may have had and are now just rambling about anything except the issues? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

An interesting read that, at first, seems unrelated to this thread. http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2010/03/30/2246609.aspx But when you get to this part the similarities are almost eery. "There are two approaches to this," Nickell told me. "There's ordinary science, and then there's what I call shroud science. Ordinary science starts with evidence, and lets the evidence lead wherever it will. This is the approach used by a 'CSI' team. Shroud science is quite different, and it starts with the answer. They start by saying, 'This is the shroud of our Lord,' and then they take whatever steps they need to get to that answer." Shroud science, truther science. Two peas in a pod. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

If I lived in Cali I would vote to legalize. Might as well get the tax dollars. I would then invest heavily in Frito-Lay and Taco Bell stock. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

It's really not off-topic. It's the age-old debate on how best to allocate the expenditure of tax revenues. Re: trips to promote agenda - surely you don't think that's done by one party more than the other, do you? And yes, I'm calling you Shirley. One party is as guilty as the next. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Apologies for going a bit off topic, but this is a very good example of how our entire system of priorities is fucked up. The cost flying the President or VP to give one speach to promote his agenda would be enough money to care for this child the rest of it's life. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

So you also believe a building performance roprt is the same as a criminal investigation? Maybe, since you are a engineering guru, you should work for the CIA or FBI? There was a criminal investigation. Men are in prison awaiting trial as a result. If you don't agree with the results, too bad. There was no evidence implicating what you thought happened or that any of it was caused by who you think caused it. I have worked with CIA and FBI. I have also worked DOD, Capital Police, NYCFD, NYCPD, and countless other agencies. But I am not an "engineering guru" as you put it. I focus on certain areas and seek advice from those who are far more knowledgable than I when delving into unfamiliar territory. You should give it a try sometime. You may be surprised by how little you actually know and how much you can learn from others. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

"All we want is an investigtion, one we can see the results and sources of. " Bullshit. What you guys want is an investigation that disregards the laws of physics and gives you the conclusion you want regardless of the truth. There has already been an investigation that you can see the results and sources of. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Work is sporadic in my career. As for me, yes, if you have no argument about the substance, just turn it against me. Now, can you argue that we need to reduce our military expenditures or not? Explain how other countries can provide HC for all and still beat our dollar. I won't wait up. Which one? Acft mech. as you know. I realize you're a so-called engineer, but maybe that's why we have the skyvan; an acft that looks like a trailer. Just curious since you feign expertise in economics, foreign policy, engineering and law, among others. Funny you should mention trailers and aircraft in the same sentence. Just a couple weeks ago I worked up a CAD model and drawings of a small trailer to transport a friends homebuilt sailplane. Some more ammo for ye: I have also worked cleaning hog & cattle barns, cut grass at a golf course, waited tables, parked cars, and worked nights as a janitor to get through college. And I am proud to say I gave each and every job 100%.

Work is sporadic in my career. As for me, yes, if you have no argument about the substance, just turn it against me. Now, can you argue that we need to reduce our military expenditures or not? Explain how other countries can provide HC for all and still beat our dollar. I won't wait up. Which one? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

You are soooo off the mark HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

You have so totally missed the entire point. Best turn on your TV. Don't want to miss Matlock. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

"tell us about him shuitting down the economy to get the turds in congress to act right. That's what I thought. " Sure, but I expect you would cling to your illusions in spite of what the Constitution prescribes for the process of arriving at a budget. Do go get some milk and cookies, Matlock starts in a few minutes. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Sure we do. Pull all of our money away from Iraq. Reduce the pork to the military-industrial complex by about 30% (pretty modest). Stop wasting money prosecuting marijuana. That pays for it. Better those savings be used to reduce the deficit and taxes first. Right, we can only walk OR chew gum; not both simultaneously. Clinton took unemp from 7% to

Sure we do. Pull all of our money away from Iraq. Reduce the pork to the military-industrial complex by about 30% (pretty modest). Stop wasting money prosecuting marijuana. That pays for it. Better those savings be used to reduce the deficit and taxes first. We already pay too little in taxes, which is why we have a deficit. "Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery." Mr. Micawber in "David Copperfield". We pay too much in taxes because the government spends too much. Cut the bs expenses and we can cut taxes AND have decent health care for all. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Sure we do. Pull all of our money away from Iraq. Reduce the pork to the military-industrial complex by about 30% (pretty modest). Stop wasting money prosecuting marijuana. That pays for it. Better those savings be used to reduce the deficit and taxes first. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I wouldn't hold my breath. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Again and again and again you post and re-post the same ridiculous accusations that have been disproven and debunked every time. So why won't you answer my fairly simple questions? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Questioning is not the same as baseless denial. Now, why don't you answer those questions I gave you? You keep dodging them. You are intelligent enough to answer a few easy questions, aren't you? Or are you going to act like the rest of the sheep and lemmings and blindly follow the leaders of the truther movement? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.