Belgian_Draft

So....which excuse are you going to rely on for the missuse of the word "their"? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

The thread was going good with no shortage of humor and it really was light on the partisanship (there were a few partisan stabs from miscellaneous sources, but for the most part it was kept to a minimum) ... until of course Lucky came along to spoil it and spew his rhetoric. Some people only have one gear. Ya one that is stripped HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I suggest you read post 28, I responded to post 27 there. Post #25, yours, responded to post #20. THAT is the post of yours I responded to. Post#27 was in response to my post. You never responded to post #27. Try to keep up, would you? This particular thread was just lighthearted jabs until you poked your nose in and started your usual radical nonsensical bullshit rhetoric. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I suggest you read post #27. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Now there's a real old-school intellect whom which we can hang our hats How about these facts: http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/national/gdp/gdp_glance.htm http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=%5EDJI+Interactive#chart1:symbol=^dji;range=2y;indicator=volume;charttype=line;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=on;source=undefined Jobs are being created, the GDP is smoking, the market is up; what data do you have. Wait, wait, wait, not the rhetoric, but the data/facts as you suggested. After the Great Republican Depression, Hoover had to raise taxes to bail us out, quite a bit too late, but he finally did. Obama chose to deficit spend to help the little guy after this Great Republican Recession; either process works, but an action had to occur. Isn't it amazing how there's always a string of Republicans right before fucked economic times and a string of Dem presidents during the repair? - 3 terms of scumpublicans leading to the GD - 3 terms of scumpublicans leading to the 1990 recession - 2 terms of scumpublicans leading to our current Great Republicans Recssion Most of the debt is attributable to 2 scumbags: Fascist pif Ronnie and GWB. Yet you say that's illogic? Why? For fuck's sake, lucky, do you find it impossible to respond to a thread without using it to further your own totally unrelated vendetta? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Why don't you answer yourmomma's question in post #69 of this thread? It is a VERY basic physics problem that is completely relavent to this discussion. Heck, it is so simple you can even ignore air resistence and get a pretty darn accurate solution using just two very very very very simple equations that almost every high school physics student has memorized before the midpoint of their first course. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Well, the thing there is that with the CFI on-board, you'd think the kid flying the airplane would actually be a non-issue. At any point from engine start to stop all the CFI would have to do is say, "my airplane", just like countless CFIs do every single day and things are theoretically back under complete control of an experienced airman. You don't get to do that once you've decided to summit Everest and scores of bodies have been left on the way to prove it. The sherpa is only partly in control; nobody is in control of the weather. The crazy thing about the Dubroff instance is good ol' pop had scheduled some interviews in the next town and there was pressure on the CFI to make the flight happen. Big mistake. There was no pressing need to continue that day other than the "fame" of pushing the kid into the spot light. Now, while this kid that summited Everest may have done everything right and gotten away with it, what about the 11-year-old rich kid that wants to do it next or the 9-year-old that intends on breaking that record? Where do you draw the line on this non-sense? Sherpas probably will not change a clients diaper. That pretty much determines the minimum age of a client. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I agree 100%. Fear is a basic emotion. We are born with it. We can control it, we can overcome it, we can harness it and use it to our advantage....but we cannot ever eliminate it any more than we can eliminate any other emotion. i can only speak for myself; but before i went on with that skydiving, i actually wanted to eliminate all and every other emotion by me; then i starteted that skydiving-thingy.. it all went dwon the thoilet in an instant.. now, i want to skydive more and more, each and every day; so, i kinda eliminated it, yet, i fear the fear the fear.. but hey, i'm friggin' awesome! i love being scared a little of what i'm doing..

I agree 100%. Fear is a basic emotion. We are born with it. We can control it, we can overcome it, we can harness it and use it to our advantage....but we cannot ever eliminate it any more than we can eliminate any other emotion. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

With any luck he will leave. Seven years of everybody kissing his ass is sickening enough. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

The absence of fear is deadly for it is fear that keeps us alert. It is fear that tells us which path will lead to certain destruction. It is fear that urges us to focus and therefore performing our best. Uncontrolled fear is deadly for in that state fear will cause us to revert to our basic instincts, some of which will allow the worst to happen. It is uncontrolled fear that contolls us instead of us controlling it. Fear harnessed, fear controlled by US will always be an advantage over those who cannot control their fear and those who have no fear. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I bet the average IQ is above average, too. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I understand that, and I happen to agree with the basic idea. I just don't agree that turning to violence was a valid option...for either side of the tragedy. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Ummm - NO. Calling in the NG in the first place guaranteed a confrontation. Before that happened it was really no different than any of thousands of anti-war protests that went off without a massacre. The students were retreating from the Commons over Blanket Hill. The NG was advancing with fixed bayonets. By their own incompetence, the NG painted themselves in a corner in the practice field and panicked. Oh...so the protesters throwing rocks, disobeying a lawful order, breaking many other laws, etc. did not cause the violence that day....but bringing in the NG guaranteed a confrontation?? Apparently it did. There were thousands of acts of civil disobedience protesting the Vietnam War, and only one was so poorly handled it ended up with US soldiers advancing with fixed bayonets and opening fire on unarmed US civilians who were retreating. But don't you feel it is somewhat of a double standard to say bringing in the NG guaranteed a confrontation, but then relieving the protesters of any responsibility for what happened even though it was they that turned the protest into a violent event? Surely, just as there are instances of protests without death, there are also instances of NG being sent where no shots were fired or anybody killed? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

PA's like that can get the poster a timeout. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Ok, so it took 5 years to get 1200. That isn't significantly better than 8 years to get 1000. What publications contain these so-called reports? I have never come across one in any respectable journal nor am i aware of any presentation by them at any respectable conference. Uh, you might want to rethink that one. I know of no engineer, physicist, chemist, scientist, etc. who is concerned about ridicule when it comes to putting forth the truth. As has already been mentioned, if their were any reliable evidence that could be backed up by facts, there are several on this forum who would jump all over it as a chance to slam on Bush. THAT, my dear fellow, is a fact! HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

No, there are not. It took the truthers over eight years to find 1000 people to sign their petition. Skygnat did a very good job of giving a simple explanation for what happened. I don't know his level of knowledge in physics and I hope I am not insulting him with this post. If I am I sincerely apologize. The keyword here is simple. It is not, as you (rhys) wrote, "detailed". A detailed explanation is available but I doubt anyone with just a high school physics education would take much away from it and would most likely end up even more confused. Add to it that most scientific reports are extremely lengthy. I submitted a report last week on a simple resistence welding process that only covered one material, one thickness, in a simple lap joint. The report was over 12 pages long. That is as brief as I could make it and still convey all relative data, procedures, results, equipment, microstructure, residual stresses, hardness profiles, etc. Your reply to Skygnat shows that you didn't even understand his simple explanation. If you had, you would not need to ask the basic questions of it that you did. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Yeah, I did. The first time had an experience much like what you have going on. The entire "relationship" lasted less than a month before we called it quites by mutual agreement. I'm not the fatherly type and we both knew it. Gave it a shot with a woman with just one kid. It was better, but I still couldn't take it so I ended it after a few weeks. Now i don't date women with kids. (I better not, anyway, or my present gal would get VERY pissed off!). HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Spell what out? That you can play "6 degrees to Kevin Bacon Dick Cheney"? So what? I'm surprised he didn't include a Wookie in there somewhere. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I LIKE it! HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Good post.

This clearly belongs in the "two wrongs make a right" category. Your relative should be ashamed, if not indicted. Absolutely. Putting the ex-cops into a hostile situation is not different than a cop being crooked, the only difference being the title on the badge. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I can't believe anybody would actually believe any of the dribble contained in that senselessly long post of yours points to a conspiracy of any kind. Oh, wait...yeah, I can see you accepting it. So now, according to you, people who think for themselves, use logic and engineering knowledge to decide what to believe about 911, and try stop to flood of bullshit coming from the truthers....lead shallow and false lives. Hey, that makes perfect sense to me. After all, we should belive peole who have no education on physics and engineering over most of the worlds leading scientists. We should trust dropping concrete blocks from a few feet instead of extensive FEA analysis and simulation performed on supercomputers at a leading engineering university. Yep, makes perfect fucking sense. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Isn't that ALWAYS the case? Is there any time anyone has ever seen the on coming horde and said to themselves, "well, fuck, we can't fight back. They're totally justified invading us." Every time France was invaded? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

They are the ones behind all of it! Yes, just like Toyota execs. They stand behind their vehicles. (Because it's not safe to stand in front of them! ) HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.