Belgian_Draft

Lol, communist. No, communism would do that for virtually everyone, not just those in the military. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I love your Ale. I had to look that one up. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

You have produced no data to support that claim. Other countries offer lower per capita cost for health care and enjoy longer life spans, better disease prevention and lower infant mortality. Support your claim please. Or would you rather talk about my mother's apron strings? That is one definition of PERSONAL responsibility. I am advocating social responsibility. Although I doubt your definition of responsibility is going to be found in any doctrine anywhere. Example: Has GWB accepted PERSONAL responsibility by paying for all the dead and injured soldiers when he sent them to a war that was based on false premises? (fucking up as you say) You made your claims first. Go ahead and post data. Don't forget to include factors such as obesity, lifestyle, crime rates, etc. And what does GWB have to do with you or I accepting responsibility for our choices and actions? Are you saying you pattern your life after him? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Let's see who would pay more and who would pay less.... I am single and pay my own health insurance. Under your plan I would be forced to pay more income taxes to pay for health care for everyone. My taxes would go up more than what i pay now in health insurance. A person who supports an average size family probably would not be affected much. Someone who pays for health insurance for a very large family, say 8 or 10 members, would save a lot under your plan. People who collect welfare or don't make enough to pay income taxes would get free health care. There would be no difference between high risk participants and low risk participants. You, as a business owner, would save a bundle on health insurance. But you would probably pay more than that in increased taxes. My parents also had knee replacements. My father also had both shoulders worked on. Insurance picked up the tab and there was virtually no wait. You say you are willing to accept responsibility for your own actions, but you contradict that claim when you say you want everyone else to accept part of the reponsibility for patching you up. Accepting responsibility means if you fuck up and hurt yourself, you pay the cost either directly or via insurance you have aquired. It does not mean making everyone pay for your mistakes, especially the kid minding his own business and will most likely never break a bone or suffer a concussion. His worse injury is likely to be a paper cut. I am sure you would gladly split his medical bills if he will split yours. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

this is awesome. Our founding fathers were english. And the english now use metric units. It appears you didn't take the hint to look on the back of the dollar bill. Seriously, take a gander at the left side of it. The great seal? Yes. Take a close look at it. Notice any symbology? Suggest anything about a few of our founding fathers? Well, not really suggest, come right out and says it actually. Does that suggest to you anything about why the metric system wasn't adopted by our founding fathers when it was first proposed in 1791? Remember, by that time, the founding fathers were no longer English, so why did they hold so tightly to that "old" system? And why specifically a metric square might actually be sort of ironic? Nothing I can find on the seal has anything to do with measurement. Please elaborate. A fairly significant number of our founding fathers were Masons. Masons claim a history going back to the stone cutters of Egypt and the Temple of Solomon. One of the most significant symbols for a Mason is "The Square." To create a square, it's exceptionally handy to have your measuring tools evenly divisible by the numbers; 3, 4 and 5. 12 works quite nicely. Draw a triangle with the length of the sides being 3, 4 and 5 and one of the angles is 90 degrees which makes checking your square simple. In order to draw a triangle with those exact measurements you need one of two things; either a square that already has a perfect 90 degree angle, or three pieces of string, wire, etc. cut to those exact lengths. Whether inches, meters, furlings, thumbs, or cricket legs are used matters not so long as each unit is identical to the others. BTW, 12/5 is 2.4 Not very handy. Edited to add: BTW, you don't need any predetermined units to make a square. All you need is a piece of string, three small nails, and a board. Three sticks, a string, and piece of flat ground would work as well. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I already have. Refer to my last posts. I don't have to put words in your mouth. You said it all when you said you want the government to pay for your health care. I'm a big boy. I pay for health insurance. i even pay extra for a policy that covers me when I jump out of airplanes, drive race cars, and fly a small aircraft. You see, I undertake those activities knowing there is a greater risk of injury than just sitting at home or walking along a lake. I don't expect somebody else to have to foot the bill if i get injured in one of those activities....you do. I am willing to except responsibility for myself and my actions. You aren't. Come on out from behind mother's apron and stand on your own two feet. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

"Sure, I believe that insects with little crowns will descend upon humanity to vex them, and Jesus will reappear as a rotting goat - but in May? That's just crazy." Of course it's crazy. Anybody with a lick of sense knows it will happen in October. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

You said that. You categorized all americans as either 'veterans' or 'fat lazy people who make babies' No one said health care was free. I am advocating health care for all, paid for through the tax base, which means all taxpayers pay for it. I was pointing out the hypocrisy of having people like you object to socialized medicine when you in turn support socialized medicine (The VA for example). Dude, you have gone totally off the wall. You can't even distinguish between the military and civilian population. Here it is in a nutshell. Maybe you can understand this since you seem to get easily confused. Are you ready? Take notes! The world does not owe you a living. I do not owe you a living. The world doesn't owe you anything. I don't owe you anything. Stop begging. Understand? Even if you don't, be a big boy and deal with it. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Geez, TK, you do realize that there's more than one of his ilk that think the convoluted way he is spouting? THAT'S the scary part. It's pointless, except for the fun of it, to feed him. Pointing out his inconsistencies doesn't even phase him...obviously off the wall. I have challenged you before to point out any inconstencies, but you have neglected to do so. Wanna try again? Or are you all talk? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

So the only people that provide services to this country that are of any value are servicemen and women? You mean the guy who runs a company that gives a dozen people a job does not deserve any consideration? The lady who cooks dinners for poor people at her local church has no consideration for her contribution to society? You have to shoot someone while wearing a uniform to be of value? Wow, - yes you are right, keep talkin', keep talkin' Who said anything about value? Where the fuck did THAT come from???? Military people are, in effect, owned by the government. They give up a lot of rights ordinary citizens take for granted, including the right to avoid life threatening situations. As such they should be taken care of by the government and that includes health care. No, creating jobs does not earn you free health care. You benefit greatly from each person you hire. If you don't then you aren't much of a business person. Yet you want everyone else to provide health care for the people who make you money. The only difference between that and some bum on the street begging for handouts is the clothing. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

They managed to find New York. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3G9b6j3nCA I think more highly of the bird. At least they know when to STFU. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Are you planning to write checks to the VA to help out? http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/29/bachmann-takes-heat-veterans-group-proposing-benefits-cuts/ 'cause your conservation cronies don't apparently want to help the VA with all the wounded soldiers that we are creating. VA budget has doubled in 8 years? Can you guess why? Bachman suggests we are going to save $4.5B by cutting VA benefits? When we spend $660B a year MAKING injured soldiers? yep - you guys are RIGHT ON TRACK!! Oh yeah, that VA budget consists of about $60B, most of which are one of those commie socialist medical benefits programs, and commie socialist housing programs, and commie socialist disability programs..... keep talkin' dude..... VA facilities are for veterans. Veterans are people who served in the miitary. The government is providing those services to people who did something for their country other than sit on their fat ass and make more babies. You, on the other hand, want to provide those same services to everyone regardless. Oh...I don't know where you got the idea that I am all for Republican or right wing ideals. I'm not. Not anymore than i am all for Democrat or left wing ideals. Yes, i'll keep talking. I will keep talking as long as there are people like you who want to turn this country into another USSR. I will keep talking as long as there are people like you who consider someone who sets out to harm my country a hero. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

you are absolutely 100% INCORRECT. I do not advocate, nor have I ever advocated that government pays for everything. Health care yes, transportation, housing, food - that is called welfare and we already have a system in place. satisfactory to me. health care is what I advocate. Now knock off with the putting of words in my mouth. If you want to know what I want, all you have to do is ask - as you already know I will certainly TELL YOU. From your posts I could assume that you want slavery, anyone left-wing executed, euthanizing of masses of the people - just to save money for the rich people, and totalitarian Christian fundamentalist government. But I would never say that, because you never said that did you..... I would appreciate the same level of respect for my opinion. If you want to argue, i am fine with that. If you do not know how to argue, then kindly bow out before you embarrass yourself further..... Oh, don't worry, we all know what your opinion is. You have made that perfectly clear with no room for error. You want the government to supply everything. Embarrassed? Not hardly. I am able to take care of myself, help out those in need, and give financial aid to a deserving student once in a while. All without being told to by the government. You bitch because you have to pay for your employees health insurance. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Its implied when leaking documents that highlight war crimes is a strong negative. I'm just thinking of you Belgian Draft. The speed at which you take your 'Libertarian' hat off and put your nationalist hat on with any given subject may make you bald early. Once we have dealt with these bastards we can finally go buy a Model T Ford and this new thing they call the vacuum. Also I have snake oil here you might be interested in. Oh, you were just fantasizing. My bad. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

You are ABSOLUTELY 100% correct. I do not want them covered by 'insurance'. Read my previous threads & posts. yes, yes, yes. We know. You want the government to pay for all health care. Then you will push for the government to pay for all food...then housing....then tansportation...etc. And you will justify all of it by saying that each and every person has the basic human right to them and should not be denied because they lack the monetary means to pay for them. There are already countries that do all that. Move to one of them. Leave this one to the people who take pride in taking care of themselves and helping others when they want, not because they are forced to. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Two easy steps. 1: Spend a couple hours at the range and burn up that ammo. No ammo to transport = no problem there. 2: Ship firearms from one FFL to another if you are worried. Personally I would put the unloaded guns in locked cases in the trunk of the car. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Show even one post where anybody said, or strongly implied, that killing civilians ANYWHERE was good. The socialists, commies, and traitors have this thread fucked up enough without people making it worse by lying about it's content. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

No, he said upthread that he bought insurance for himself - he just won't supply it to his employees. Oh, ok. I stand corrected. In light of your last statement: "It's too bad you are unwilling and unable to care for yourself. But don't expect me to look after you." You have no problem with Mike's push about providing for employees? Nope. The hypocracy of tk wanting taxpayers to pay for his health care in one breath and complaining about having to provided health care for his employees in the next somewhat speaks for itself. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

No, he said upthread that he bought insurance for himself - he just won't supply it to his employees. Oh, ok. I stand corrected. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

About as lame as expecting to find inch tapes in Europe. Do you order pork in kosher delis, too? What a coincidence... anti-metric people see most of the pro-metric people as arrogant pricks. What a coincidence...I am an arrogant prick! I used to be an arrogant bastard, but got too good and got promoted. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

The thread title is "proving the inadequacy of the metric system". My intent is to show it is not inadequate, not to prove imperial is inadequate. I still carry a 12' tape marked on inches but not meters. But in a lab I MUCH prefer metric. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Americans also have a higher instance of preventable health disorders such as obesity, high blood pressure, etc. But what the hell....those surely don't lower average life expectancy. Keep on dreaming about your socialist state. It may happen someday if enough suckers buy into it. I only agreed that your costs would go down, not the total which would actually rise from people visiting a doctor for every little stubbed toe and sniffle. It's too bad you are unwilling and unable to care for yourself. But don't expect me to look after you. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

um, I AM paying for it......given a choice I would pay the TAXES to pay for it.... since I have no choice, then I choose ot pay for health insurance. Kinda like since I have no choice, I 'choose' to pay for homeowners insurance as well. Of course you want taxes to pay for your health care. That way you don't have to buy insurance for your employees and you get to pocket more money. So what if the quality of the care falls to shit? I mean, you end up with more money, right? One big problem with society today is that fewer and fewer people are willing to provide for themselves. they want the government to do everything for them. Coming up next: Government mandated and supplied food & housing. No choice, take what they give you. Same as the health care you propose. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

shutup. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Is that 4.5 pounds mass..or force? If that substance had a specific gravity of 1.00, how many quarts would it be? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.