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I get the feeling that you are not going to get many rebuttals here. Good stuff. My only problem is finding someone trustworthy enough to BE that oversight of the hen house. They're ALL foxes. Perhaps it should be the people. In fact, I think that's the (general) idea of WL. The problem with that is that the people would have to know about everything in order to oversee it. There are a few here who are flipping their lids arguing against just that. So what would you propose to do? Publish everything and let people vote on what can stay secret and what can't? Yep, that'll work. Thank God the decision isn't up to you and your kind. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Quick! How many litres is 13.3kg of gasoline? The point here being, unless you're talking about pure water at a specific temperature and pressure, your argument falls to pieces. Pretty easy, actually. It is common knowledge that the specific gravity of gasolin is about .75 so 13.3/.75 gives pretty darn close to 18 litres. Yes, I did that in my head. Still working on the miles thing? >Checked my figuring with a calculator. 13.3/.75 is 17.73, so I was off by a couple percent. But then I checked what the actual SH of gasoline is...and it is .74. 13.3/.74=17.97. I wasn't so far off after all.

Quick! How many litres is 13.3kg of gasoline? The point here being, unless you're talking about pure water at a specific temperature and pressure, your argument falls to pieces. Pretty easy, actually. It is common knowledge that the specific gravity of gasolin is about .75 so 13.3/.75 gives pretty darn close to 18 litres. Yes, I did that in my head. Still working on the miles thing? >Checked my figuring with a calculator. 13.3/.75 is 17.73, so I was off by a couple percent. But then I checked what the actual SH of gasoline is...and it is .74. 13.3/.74=17.97. I wasn't so far off after all.

Really? Split an hour into three parts. Where's your "metric" time? here! Yeah, I can see that's really catching on. Where's your "metric" calendar? Quick! How many quarts is 23.96 cubic inches and how many pounds of water is that? No calculators please HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Plank While it's named for the physicist that proposed it, it's such a universal idea that it's going to be understood by any lifeforms that are at least as technologically advanced as ourselves. The basics are that light travels at a constant and when you get down to a small enough scale, the universe breaks down into a distance beyond which there is no meaning. This is MUCH, MUCH smaller than the diameter of a proton. So the smallest unit of distance is the Planck length and Planck time is how long it takes light to travel that distance. This gives universal constants to; length, time, speed . . . The time it takes the fastest known object, light, to travel the shortest recognized distance, the Plank length, is known as a jiffy. Interestingly enough, 1 centimeter per minute is pretty damned close to 1 furlong per fortnight.

Amen! HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Fact is, without unions to do battle those conditions would not have come about, and the current support of businesses for anti-union legislation (the Koch brothers spring to mind) strongly suggests to me that once unions lose negotiating power, business will want to return to their "good old (Dickensian) days". Everyone who works for someone else owes a debt to the unions, whether or not they acknowledge it. This anti-union push is but an opening volley in an attempt to return to the bad old days. I can agree with that. I see what is happening now as a moderation of union influence. They had their day of fighting for, and gaining, benefits for the common worker. But they didn't stop there. They got greedy and used their newfound power to force business into contracts that hurt all involved in the long run, called for strikes for things that were not even mentioned in their contracts such as outsourcing to non-union shops and, what i consider to be the worst thing unions ever did, take away the common man's right to negotiate his own wages with the employer of his choosing. Want to join a union and enjoy the benfits of collective bargaining? Fine, join one. But don't tell those who don't want to join you that they can't work. Hopefully business and the unions will find a middle ground that will work to benefit all involved and not just one side. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

The SS investigates all credible threats against the president. I think even they would have told the congressman to bugger off. Have they gotten involved here? Read the article. The congressman notified the SS right after the meeting. That was well before any news source carried the story. Since none of us were there we have no idea in what manner the question was posed. Was it asked in a very serious tone? Or was the man laughing as he asked? That makes all the difference in what an appropriate immediate response would be. To say the congressman took no action is wrong and misleading. He refused to acknowledge the question, which is a good thing. He diverted the dialogue away from what the man wanted to discuss, which was also good. Could he have done things differently? Yep. Did he fail in his responsibilities? Nope. On the other hand, the man only asked out loud what the SS asks themselves every minute of every day....Who is going to shoot the President? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Communications to and from intelligence agents is one example. Legal & ethical negotiations with foreign countries that may cause strain in relations with other countries is another. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I haven't read much else of this thread after this comment (sorry for whack-a-moling), but I really need to comment on this. There is a distinct difference between standing for your country and supporting the actions of its leaders. It is not only our right, but our duty to challenge and question those who make the decisions in our nation. They represent the people, and are subject to their will. If their actions are not transparent, how can we know that they are fulfilling their duties? Maybe transparency wouldn't be such an issue if we could trust our leaders. Clearly, though, we cannot. It doesn't take much to turn shadiness into corruption. And when the US turns into one of a few "hot-right-now" African nations, you'll be on the side supporting the tyrant. I agree. But there is also a need...a very real need....for the government to be able to keep certain communications and subject matter secret. Total transparency is not much better than no transparency. Either one can destroy a nation. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Mind reading again? Don't give up your day job. *whoosh* Nope, you are. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

A couple points that I find interesting. First, this is nothing new. Presidents have been ignoring laws they don't like for decades. Second, the Obama haters have new ammunition to go after him with...only this time it is real. Dereliction of duty, breach of oath, take your pick. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Quick.... head to Sick Call.... you need to be closely checked out Credit where it's due - I've said several times that you can make good points, when you want to. Who the hell are you and what have you done with Mike? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I am not under any illusion that it is cut-and-dried. I think that Wikileaks and Assange had no legalobligation to keep those documents secret as long as they were legally obtained. With Assange's known disslike of the US, his love of attention, and his arrogant attitude it is no stretch to suspect he conspired with Manning pre-theft. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Uh, no. Every bit of dirt available has been thrown at the guy. Apparently, our government, unlike you, understands that there's nothing to charge him with. I agree the US government were uber pissed with Assange and the lack of charges speaks volumes. However it could be that they are working on what charges to bring. You could also argue that the sooner Wikileaks is forgotten the better and a high profile trial is probably not in the best interests of the US government. It would make a fantastic platform for Wikileaks to air the dirtiest US laundry and it is unlikely to be a Guantanamo type trial in secret. So it is plausible that a crime was committed and the decision not to proceed was taken to avoid further embarrassment. Yep! HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

That's what i've been saying but all I've gotten in return is a bunch of grief from extremists. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

This has been going on for quite a while now. If there was a crime, we'd have heard about it long ago. Just because no charges have been filed doesn't mean no crime has been committed or that no charges ever will be filed. In other breaking news, we finally know that Obama is a US citizen. Good. I'm glad to know I voted for a legitimate candidate. Now, care to tell us what you would do with a list of names of informants who are friendly to the US? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Actually, we would like his actions investigated to see if he committed any crimes against the US that he can be extradited for and brought here to stand trial. Then if found guilty I would like to see any US citizen who gave him material aid, such as financial donations, to face charges of treason. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

You just don't know when to stop digging do you? You have certainly verified something. You have verified that you deny the existence of anything you have not seen, heard or read. Did it ever occur to you that a lot of information the military recieves is never made public? Or what that information is used for and the results? But at least you aren't alone. Seems you are not the only one who holds that belief. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Bosnia and Kosovo. 311 Is *that* why the Clintons were invested in Raytheon and GE? Oh so Clinton started the whole breakdown of Yugoslavia... I would have thought you would ahve a far better grasp of reality and history since you have spent so much time there... How many Americans died in that again??? Hmmm 311.. pretty high...like NEVER would have been called in the draft.. hard to dodge when you are not even close on the number And it REALLY has to chapp your ass that he has a statue right there near you put up by a greatfull people that do not share your SEVERE CDS Sweety, the dude lied to avoid any chance of being drafted. That he lied when he didn't need to just shows his lack of common sense. It's too bad you only see the side of the paper that is facing you when it is so easy to flip the sheet over. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Once again...coming up snake eyes on the mind reading. You'll never learn. *shaking head* Let me get this straight. You claim to know all information that has come from our informants. You claim nothing good has come from it. Yet you say it is I who has a problem. Can't argue with that logoc. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

See this is a very good reason why all those entitled little assholes SHOULD have to serve their country. Put their asses on the line. And its SAD SAD SAD that you can only see it as a group of liberals.... Want to bet a bunch of the assholes were some of those Lame ass Young Republicans that have some disorder or another like thier heroes Lush Rimjob with his ASS cycst or any of the OTHER fucking chickenhawks who ran away from ALL of the wars the same way on nice safe campuses the last 40 years. You mean draft dodgers like Bill Clinton? Bush may have served in the NG to avoid war, but your hero Mr. Bill just plain flat out lied...and then led protests in other countries. Your hate is so deep you can't even tell you you want to hate. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Well, that's what happens when young impressionable minds get brainwashed by the liberal establishment. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Here's some more rope: Since you've proven yourself to be so slow on the uptake, I'll repeat one more time... "10+ years in and what....very little. May as well out them for all the good that's been done. As if the Taliban has never known any of them until public disclosure. " This time don't let the *whoosh* get you. Your boogeyman is waiting. So you are claiming to know everything that has been brought to our military's attention by informants? I guess you already have your transparency. Congratulations.

That's right. And we have uncovered several plots. It must be our agreement of transparency with the Taliban. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.