Belgian_Draft

So, are we invading Saudi Arabia next week? And that has what to do with success/failure in Afghanistan? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I think the press is more of the issue, just as it's been since Vietnam. The real reason we haven't "won" yet is two fold: * No clear criteria for winning. * Attempting to fight a PC war. We're attempting to minimize colateral damage and civilian loss of life which they are using against us. It doesn't help when someone who was likely used as a human sheild is accidently killed and the press is right there to take pictures of it. My stance on it is whether one feels why we're there is justified or not, we should just do what needs to be done. Go in hard, go in big, and accept there will be colateral damage and civilian casulties but the quicker the fighting stops, the less it will likely actually be, +1 Tough enough to fight while trying to avoid/minimize civilian casualties, 10X harder when your enemy is indiscriminately killing those same civilians. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Yep, removing a government that prohibits women from getting an education and condones their torture by "men" is a complete failure. How dare we stand up for human rights. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

There was one page of posts when you replied. You should have read them before jumping into the conversation. After all, that is the only way you will know what has been discussed. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

an admission of guilt is NOT necessarily guilty - you should probably brush up on your legal jargon..... an 10th grader would know that. An admission of guilt after years of solitary is about as useful as an admission of guilt after torture. it was a 'plea bargain', which means guilt was admitted, but not proven in any way. Yes, I know that. If you had read my second post you would have realized that. But then, it is quite probable the concept would have evaded you. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

No, but an admission of guilt does. People plead guilty to things they didn't do all the time. Yep, happens every day. But, in the eyes of the courts and the law, once you plead guilty...you're guilty whether your reason was to avoid a possible lengthy jail sentence or because you really are guilty and want to shorten your sentence. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

No, but an admission of guilt does. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I as well understood what she was referring to. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

...politicians are slimy... (no disrespect to slugs and eels intended) HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Actually, it is neither a jackass nor a Belgian. It is a mule. But you are correct in the interpretation of my screen name. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Source; http://mercatus.org/about Hmmm, markets . . . not people. Now, can you guess who set up this think tank? I base my response on the content of the report. You base yours on the name of the organization that developed it. So, tell me again who is jumping to conclusions? And yes, I can read rather quickly with decent comprehension. That and most of the report is graphs, but I wouldn't expect you to know that. Your blithering is getting boring. I'm going to go ride. BTW, I found this pic of you.... HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Ain't it something how quade can backpedal so fast he trips over his own lips? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I'm fairly certain that's not what I said. I'm fairly certain I said; It's you that have shot off your mouth before reading. Thank you for making my point for me. You just restated your position that the report is about business and corps....it isn't. It is about individual rights. I'll bet you still haven't read it. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Who's "squirming"? Not me. I stand by everything I've written in this thread and haven't had to resort to petty name calling and ridiculous claims like you have. You only make yourself look silly by making such claims too. You're squirming. You started when you said the report was all about corporations screwing over the little guy...which it isn't. If you had actually read it you would have seen that, but instead you start shooting off your mouth...as usual. Then, when you realized how goat-fuck stupid your initial assumption was, you accused me of admitting you were right...which I didn't. Some way for a mod to behave. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Nope, not at all. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Hogwash. It's certainly not true of anyone without the wherewithal to be able to move such as children who have no choice but to live where their parents do. It's also not true of anyone that lived in the community before the company moved in and fucked up the air and water. But keep trying to justify companies doing whatever the F they want to and them having more rights than actual people. It's hilarious. So now the squirming begins!! I'm not justifying corps doing anything they want. I never mentioned anything remotely close to that. If you would just admit that you opened your XL mouth before reading the report.... If you would have confined your comments to something relevent to the report.... If you knew anything about what you are trying to discuss.... You wouldn't have to squirm around like you are. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Is clean air/water a right, a freedom, a benefit, or a privilege? Why do manufacturing industries, the auto industry, etc consistently oppose environmental regulations? Why am I forced to breath/drink their waste even if I choose not to buy their products? Don Clean air/water is a right. Whether you choose to live where industry fouls the air and water is up to you. If you choose to live in such an area then you have consented to give up that right. Nobody forces you. With the history of industry and he environment, it would be ridiculous to live anywhere near a factory and expect to never have problems with air/water quality. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I'll clue you in on something.... The report is a comparison of how much the government intrudes upon people to make their own decisions, keep the money they earn, make their own way in life, associate with whom they choose, etc. In other words, make their own decisions and choices. It is not about what the government can do for you, provide for you, or how easy it is to collect welfare. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

So then, you admit this IS about corporate freedom rather than the freedom of individuals. Thank you for finally doing that. I made no such admission and you damn well know it. Now....back to my question. Name one...JUST ONE...right or freedom a corp can take from you without your consent. JUST ONE! Why is it you have such difficulty understanding the simple difference between rights, freedom, benefits, and privelages? It isn't that hard! HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

No sir, it is you that appear to be confused. Confused between what a person and a company is. PEOPLE have the right to be free and it is the government's responsibility to protect them from those entities that would do the PEOPLE harm. This also needs to be paid for, so taxes do, in fact, need to be levied. It is not "freedom" for a corporation to shirk its duties to pay taxes. It's actually traitorous. How the hell did you ever become a mod on this forum?? Your views are so biased there is no way you could EVER enforce the rules here in any impartial way. If you would actually read the report you would see just how far off base your assumptions are. Your comments have virtually nothing to do with the report! Name one right or freedom a corporation can take away from an individual without that person's consent. You can't! Freedom has nothing to do with whether somebody else is paying for your welfare. It has everything to do with personal choice and responsibility. Try running a business sometime and you will see just how little freedom even a small business has. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

You are very confused about what a right is. People have a right to seek and obtain these services. But there is no right to have somebody else pay for them. That is a privelage and a benefit. It is very clear you didn't read any of the pdf attached to the website. But then it is your right to make assumptions with no knowledge of what you are talking about. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

When a group defines "freedom" essentially as being "good for corporations" then that shouldn't come as much of a surprise. Please point out in the web site where you read it was a survey of freedom for corporations. Everything I read was referring to freedom of the individual. I'm talking about the web site linked to in the original post. THAT is clearly about corporate freedoms, not individuals. You made the observation about a correlation between a skewed notion of corporate freedom and political affiliation. Well, duh. I made an observation of a correlation between the findings of two surveys. I did not attempt to read bewteen the lines and, in fact, questioned whether there was a genuine link or if it was only coincidence. You, on the other hand, assume the organization's finding are based on what freedoms corporations and businesses have and not the individual. That assumption goes against the statement in the website that clearly says something totally different from what you are assuming. Maybe you should read first before opening your XL mouth. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

When a group defines "freedom" essentially as being "good for corporations" then that shouldn't come as much of a surprise. Please point out in the web site where you read it was a survey of freedom for corporations. Everything I read was referring to freedom of the individual. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I suppose I could research it myself, but i think a comparison of cost of living vs income vs freedom vs party affiliation may prove to be very interesting. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Interesting comparison. Yes, but the question is whether it is a causal relationship and, if so, does less freedom lead to a stronger affiliation to the Democrat party? Or does a strong affiliation to the party lead to less freedom? Maybe they are not related at all and the relationship is just coincidence. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.