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You don't think there is a big difference between being a contract specialist and working on a contract? Let me educate you a bit. I have worked on contracts. My input was solicited as to what work could realistically be done in a given time frame. I worked up a schedule and submitted it. A contract specialist, on the other hand, is someone who does nothing but contracts. See the difference? One person gives input from time to time, the other does the work all the time. Sure I'm guessing. So are you. But you made the claim that Boeing wanted the strike to avoid paying late penalties. Thus far all you have offered up as evidence is opinion and conjecture. And, YES, i want to see a "smoking gun". Any document from Boeing specifically detailing the plan would be sufficient. I don't have to post any references. The only claim I made is that it is my opinion that Boeing did not want the strike. You are the one who has made a claim that needs backed up. BTW, I am a certificated pilot. Private pilot, single engine, land, VFR. Not an aviation expert by any means, but I am familiar with flying things. Are you? A little test to see, ok? OK! What is the significance of 20 degrees? What effect does direction of engine rotation have on takeoff handling? If you are on short final on a normal approach and your engine quits, which do you do first a) announce MAYDAY on your radio or b) attempt to restart the engine. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Actually, I did. I have worked on many such contracts. Like I said, nothing new. So go ahead and split the hair between, "I have worked on many such contracts" and being a specialist. Dude, there is a HUGE difference between working on contracts and being a contract specialist. It's a bit more than just splitting hairs. That's right it is, it's the opinion of thousands of people and many independent publications, probably customers too, who were screwed by the delay tactic and cancelled orders. And there are thousands of people who share the opinion that Boeing did not purposely push the union towards a strike. You saying they did does not make it so. Such is life, get used to it. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Salad is what food eats. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

No matter how many times you post the same thing, it is still opinion. You do know what opinion is, don't you? And I am not a contract specialist. Could you please show where I made that claim? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Well, at least we are making headway. You have pretty much acknowledged that you are just putting forth opinion of yourself and others. That's all well and good. We all have our opinions. But just becaue someone else shares yours doesn't make it fact. You think Boeing forced the strikes intentionally, I don't. You know what they say: Opinions are like assholes. Everybody has one and they all stink. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Actually, I did. I have worked on many such contracts. Like I said, nothing new. While a notorized statement would be nice it is not needed. All I ask for is evidence beyond what you think happened, something more than just your gut feeling. Correct. But by the same token a person can not be convicted of any crime when the only evidence presented is some guy saying "I think he did it", which is exactly what you are trying to get us to except as proof of wrongdoing by Boeing. Circumstantial evidence and motive. Perfect. This is not the first time the Machinist Union has gone on strike. To use your circumstatial evidence and supposed motive you would have to show that this was a trend by Boeing, i.e. encouraging a strike. Like I said, all you have is your biased opinion and nothing more. I hope you don't fly. If you do, the next time your get inside an airliner i want you to think about something. I want you to think about how that aircraft was built by stupid blue collar workers. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I wonder if anyone in SC has ever got another poster to type so many words in response to so few? I got him to write an entire paragraph in response to a single "."

I just noticed you have no Scorpions! I'm sorry, dude, but with all due respect there is no way you can call that a music collection without at least one album from the Scorps. "Love at First Sting" is a classic. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I've heard we taste like chicken. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Those clauses are common to just about every major contract between a supplier and a builder. Nothing new. Now why don't you show us evidence that Boeing caused the strike with the specific intent of avoiding late fees? You can't becaue it is just speculation on your part. Your opinion, regardless of how strong you believe in it, is not evidence of any kind. I could say that a ball player getting hit by a pitch twice in one game is intentional, but that is only speculating the same way you are. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Two are conspicuous by their absence. Chris Rea "Road to Hell" Gary Moore "Corridors of Power" HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Yep, all guesswork and mere opinion on your part. You are getting really easy to predict. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I wonder if anyone in SC has ever got another poster to type so many words in response to so few? I got him to write an entire paragraph in response to a single "."

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The how do you account for higher wages and safer conditions in union states? Not to mention that these union states are usually blue states, like Washington. But you say lower wages and less safe conditions is smarter, huh? OK Hmmm...where did I make that assertion? If you had a clue, the recent Boeing strike was induced by Boeing so they wouldn't have to pay late fees on delivery. Really? Have any evidence to back that up or is that just a guess on your part?But these obnoxious union demands, if not made, end up in more company profits and a lower standard of living for people. I'll clue you onto something: Companies like Boeing are in business to make a profit. If they can't, they move elsewhere. That could happen to the workers in Seattle if they...oh wait, it did happen. Do you think you can ask management to give or you have to get them over a barrel? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Again, the diddy rule? Nothing scientific? WHat makes American blue collars more intelligent than European blue collars? In WE they get between 4 and 9 weeks vacation per year - fed law. In WE their workweek is sometimes 35 hrs per week. They get gov paid medical and if tehy strike, they almost always win. Yea, they're stupid Where did I say they were smarter than their European counterparts? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Wrong. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

My father was blue collar. My brother is blue collar. My sister is blue collar. I was blue collar for most of my career. Are you calling all of us stupid? I'm blue collar, as a generalization American blue collar workers are stupid as compared to their Western Eurpean counterparts in that they think busting unioins brings higher wages. Actually fighting for the other side not bright. Now, within that there are some people who get it and are not stupid, but the evidence is there; American unionization is dropping in teh private sector and so are wages/benefits: http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2007/05/it.html Well, you are wrong. Blue collar workers here are not stupid compared to any other part of the world. Most I know are average or above average intelligence. The decline in union membership over the last couple decades is a result of workers tiring of the unions' greed costing them jobs and money. Boeing setting up shop in South Carolina for the 787 Dreamliner is a perfect example. Obnoxious union demands and repeated strikes at their Seattle facility drove Boeing to seak out other areas more conducive to survival of the company. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Just as I thought. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Do you actually have a profession or do you just go around pretending to know stuff you haven't a clue about? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

What the fuck's the matter with you? Wow, dude, you just made my day! I'm glad YOU had the balls to ask that. I'd probably get tossed again for another couple weeks. Fuckin' GREAT!!! HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.