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I wonder whether it really is the foul language that is the issue? -------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson

"Those proud to be terrorist that kill Olympians in the Olympic villiage of Munich are TERRORIST=PLO " Wasn't that particular attrocity largely attributed to Black September, which would lead us back to Gadaffi. Black September were Palestinian, and probably had ties with the PLO (also Abu Nidal, and the PLFP), but they were bankrolled by Gadaffi, not Arafat. -------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson

When I was at college, I hit a cow with my motor bike. It was dark, rainy and the big black Aberdeen Angus came out of nowhere. I trashed my leathers, my jeans, and the tank on the motorbike, but was basically shaken but not stirred. My college mates found this all pretty hilarious, until it happened to one of them in his car. The cow came though the windshield, crushed his steering wheel onto his lap, broke several fingers on both hands, dislocated his shoulder, crapped on the passnger seat, and pretty much everywhere else, kicked him in the face, then made off into the night. The poor guy was sat there for a couple of hours till someone happened by to help him out. Hitting a large animal with a fast moving vehicle is not pleasant.

"I figured this would make a good handful of people foam at the mouth about Texas." The only thing that makes me mad about Texas is your reluctance to export Shiner. -------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson

You mean 'Duke of Hazard' isn't truly representative of American society, man I'm bummed, they seem to have so much fun on that show. Good show from the Aggies at the weekend I gather, there was a small contingent in the Broken Drum at Auchenblae secretly whooping for A&M while Scotland did their noble best against a superior Australia..

"Get your sad naive ass down to Bangkok dude, the change of scenery and culture will do you good." Ah, another personal attack, different Brit this time, though." I'm sorry you took it that way, I merely meant to imply that your unhappy, and obviously ignorant and inexperienced donkey could do with a break. I'm glad we are clear on that now. I'm sure if I deserve a ban, a moderator will show up and administer the rules of the forum, which I will accept with dignity. Untill then, bite me. By the way, Bigway is a Kiwi, which is not really that far from Scotland. -------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson

"It's illuminating to see that you support the idea of ripping off those who have patented and/or copyrighted their designs. This takes legitimate earnings from those who deserve them. And on top of that, you generally get cheap, shit merchandise of inferior quality." Get your sad naive ass down to Bangkok dude, the change of scenery and culture will do you good. The stuff I got there 5 years ago is still serving me well. -------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson

Cool, not ideal, but not a big deal. Thanks for clearing that up.. -------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson

"Did you read it after he spent half an hour writing it? i saw how long it was and thought, na." If he said something interesting, valid, or useful I might read it, but Na, I couldn't be arsed. -------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson

"Seems knives are a bit overboard," No, not at all, just big knives, that can't be explained away, eg an 8" switchblade for use in knitting or crochet and such like. If you are carrying a sword, and are on your way to (absurd example...) a Scottish Country dancing competition, you have a valid excuse. If you are carrying a claymore to your local night club, well, thats a different story alltogether. Well thats the way I see it anyways. MikeD has to enforce these laws, so he probably has a better insight to the actual application of the law than I. I actually like this goal setting approach much more than a rigid prescriptive approach. Its much more flexible in its appplication and can cater for occasional oddball circumstances. I guess it also allows the cops to apply a sort of profiling to their suspects, eg the person carrying the sword in the above example probably doesn't look like a person spoiling for a fight, and probably won't attract too much attention to themselves. The guy shouting and causing a furore outside the pub at closing time probably IS spoiling for a fight, and if lifted with a weapon will face an overnight stay at Her Majesty's leisure, and some explaining in front of the beak in the morning Whether this approach actually works to curtail actual trouble makers, and not impede the wee lassie going to practice her dancing, remains to be seen. I know you guys prefer prescriptive laws clearly stating what is right and what is wrong (most of my experience of this is in technical legislation applied to engineering) but trust me, a goal setting approach can work. In my experience our goal setting legislation, when applied to offshore engineering, is far more sensible than traditional legislation. -------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson

"Jeffrey & Aggie Dave - How many people do you know that have had to use a gun or a knife to defend themselves?" Aggiedave is not advocating that we change our laws to accommodate his opinion. I personally have no problems with my old pal Aggs doing whatever he has to do to ensure that he and his loved ones have a secure and happy existence. Hell, I don't even mind PJ lugging an armoury to the pub in order to be happy. I think he may be overcompensating for something, but it doesn't bother me. I do object to people trying to tell us how to live though, specifically foriegners, and damn uppity colonials at that. Aggs hit the nail on the head, he said that there are cultural differences between our societies, one of those differences is our respective approaches to carrying weapons, for whatever reason. If we could all respect those differences we could all get on with something more meaningful.

"They have some really cool ones in some of the vendor stalls at night." Get down to Patpong, there's some good counterfeit stuff there, and if the retail therapy doesn't work, there's fun to be had in the bars. "If you one is arrogant and thinks they are self proclaimed superior and must decide for the rest of the stupid people in the world, then that person would want laws like this." That cuts (pun intended)both ways. This thread is all about foreign citizens trying to tell us how to live our lives. And lets face it, we are having none of that. Have fun in Bangkok, like any other city around the globe, it is fun, but be sensible. -------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson

'All I see when I look at Madonna is Margaret Thatcher. ' Now thats a frightening visualisation. -------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson

"I don't know if there were conditions set for their release" Pull back from Falluja I believe was one of the demands as reported by the BBC earlier. "It is unknown if British Margaret Hassan was held there." I'm hoping its unlikely Zarqawi is not interested in Margaret Hassan, and is reported not to be in Falluja anyways. (again BBC) -------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson

"We'll let you guys colonise the Middle East, we're too busy in Western Africa..." I like your sense of humour. -------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson

"OBL and Gadaffi are hardly alike...." You're probably right, its the principle of the thing I guess. I'm still pretty outraged over that Lockerbie bombing though. It damn near landed on my granny's house. I'm also pretty mad that we had to set up a wee bit of Scotland in Holland (Google for Camp Zeist) to try the fuckers that actually planted the bomb. I couldn't help get the feeling that they were laughing at us all the time. And it cost us a fortune. NK is precarious, as is Iran (but less so IMO), but I don't think things will come to a head there for a while yet. Plenty of time for jawing still, hopefully. -------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson

"Jelly Bean=Lizzy? " Aye Jelly Bean=Queen.

Gawd only knows my Canadian friend (I'm Scottish). But you're right on the Camilla thing. We have a phrase here, 'Face like a bulldog chewing a bumble bee' I think it fits, and feel free to use it. It wasn't only Chuckie that served mind you, the Jelly Bean herself put some time in during the war, and her second son saw active duty as a chopper jockey in the Falklands. Phil the Greek also has time, but as you suggest I reckon they were all treated as specials. -------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson

Nothing to do with selling us oil and gas then. Remember he brought down the 747 over Lockerbie, and various other nasty acts. "This proves the US is forgiving." No it doesn't, what it proves is that our leaders can be bought. For example, what would it take for you guys to forgive OBL for 911? Some oil, some money, OBL selling out some of his pals? How much? How much to buy off your (or ours for that matter) forgiveness for that. BTW, a lot of us still believe an invasion of Iraq wasn't necessary anyway, but we've been there many times. -------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson

And what about Gaddaffi? Our new friend, once a sworn enemy..... -------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson

"Now if he would just get rid of Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz, I might actually start to like the guy." Careful what you wish for, the news we are seeing over here is that Rummy and possibly Wolfowitz are likely to go soon. Dunno if this tallies with what you guys suspect, its all I got... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/americas/2004/vote_usa_2004/administration_guide/default.stm -------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson

"I think we're supposed to throw rather than chew it in SC." Well, paint me red and call me subversive. -------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson

"Is this a serious question?.... " No, not really, just chewing the fat with you.

But what about the God vs Cheney option...?

'Assertion', surely Pajarito. Back to the chase, I'd much rather he listened to God than listened to Cheney.