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Sorry it is late ... I wanted to get something done befpre his celebration at the Farm, but power was out in my home for days. If I have Lee's birth year wrong let me know and I will adjust. This strip will be on DZ comic as well. SteveO I sure will miss my Cowboy-Redskins bets with Lee every year. steveOrino
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No need to apologize, I guess I simply misunderstood you. steveOrino
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By that same tone, I guess Drs are making money off other people's illnesses, morticians are making money off other people's grief. etc. I don't think I believe that is what you are indicating, but I wasn't sure what you meant, thus I asked, "Am I missing something?" S'all good.
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Am I missing something? I don't know of any AA or NA or CR groups that charge anything for their service. WHO is making money off people's quest for sobriety? Are you talking about LADCs or LPCs that work in a clinic??? steveOrino
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1977-1980 SF Medic ODA 552 Co. B 2nd BN 5th SFG(A) steveOrino
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Skinny ... you fat @#$% I'll miss our Cowboys vs Redskins bet every year! I hope you are in place of peace. I'll miss PMing you ... Dang, this world keeps getting smaller. steveOrino
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I received an email from a jumper wanting my sketch of Lee, and I said sure, I'll draw something. $50 is my minimum. Of course, I had no clue what was going on as I seldom find time to surf dropzone.com anymore. Well crap! Of course the money will be sent back and I will do whatever needs be done to honor lee. We often PMed about my Cowboys and his Redskins. We were finally going to meet at the Boys vs Skin game in November, but each of us had other things come up. I only wish we would have worked the other stuff out so we could have met. Man, I'm bummed right now. steveOrino
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same here steveOrino
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I'll let you know in 13 more jumps. steveOrino
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Perhaps "quotes" would have made the mods statement more palatable. Then it would have read ... That means no comments about "towelheads" or "sand niggers", and no gratuitous attacks on a race or religion. ... As it stood -- it appears to do more harm than it was trying to prevent. steveOrino
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steveorino replied to gNemo's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
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Since that law passed I saw something I have never seen in Okiehoma since I moved here in 1995 ... I saw white guys building a stone fence around a new hospital addition. I thought only Mexicans knew how to be a stone mason? steveOrino
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I agree with his statement, they may not be using AA, but they are most likely using tools from AA's tool box. Thanks for the link. steveOrino
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Yes, I'm trying to get my patients to attend secondary support groups after they graduate CD IOP. I know quotes from Paul will not help the non christians as well quotes from Buddha will not impress fundamental Christians. I'm trying to cover all my bases for my client's benefit. steveOrino
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Steve, I'm curious: do you know what the relapse rate is with support groups? I have close to zero exposure to CD treatment issues... Laureate Psychiatric Clinic (where i work) is knee deep in studying this issue as I type. The evidence they are seeing is those with support groups and a plan for recovery have a tremendously higher rate of long term sobriety. But it is a LONG TERM study, so all the results have not been made public yet, but I am privy to the info they have to date which is reflecting their hypothesis so far. steveOrino
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From the intro to this article: http://www.afn.org/~govern/dorman.html great fodder for debate about "truths" but it doesn't help me know other philosophies that may be similar in context as Paul's statement. steveOrino
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I understand the theory, I'm wondering how you related it to "I'm powerless to change w/o help". Perhaps I did not make my question clear. steveOrino
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perhaps I'm taking it out of context, but I don't believe that for a second even your goal in this is for the addict to "take control" with a simple act of will = by asking for help and accepting help. But it's still 'their' act of will. I'm not stating your will is impotent, I'm demonstrating empirical evidence shows 60-90% of addicts/alcoholics relapse without support groups. steveOrino
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You don't get it ... (well neither do I as I block your emails as I'm not interested in the few things you have sent me in the past -- I apologize for the crassness, but it is reality. I am open minded to some extent, but at the same time there are those who have opinions I do not care to debate with) As regard to this question, I'm not looking for debate either. I'm working on a presentation I do as a CD therapist. I know the response I need for those who have Christian core beliefs, but I'm looking for other philosophies and religious (non-Christian) world views to help those who are chemically dependent understand that the "norm" is that they can't stop (and stay in recovery) w/o help. They are powerless over their addiction. steveOrino
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How so? steveOrino
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Thanks, I was hoping for "quotes."
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I'm aware of the Apostle Paul's admission that ... When I want to do good, evil is right there with me. For in my inner being I delight in God's law; but I see another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within my members. What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? Romans 7:21-24 Are there other religous writers or philosophers that have said similar things such as 'I want to change, but I can't?' steveOrino
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I started "back" into the air after a 20 year absence to raise kids. Since they are gone I have more "disposable" income. It has been spent on skydiving, Harleys, Corvettes, and trips to Cancun. I love being an "old" man! I am a "noisey" ager. steveOrino
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It had been a long day taking tandems up. I noticed Stuby, the vidiot, had left his Ipod in the plane. I thought I'd listen to a few tunes on the way up. Stuby has an eclectic taste. I mean Pantera & Dolly Parton. I noticed he had Marilyn Manson as well. Being an old guy I haven't listened to any of his stuff so I thought I'd listen to his song, "Beautiful People" or something like that. It started out cool ... great drums! Then I glanced at my Viso altimeter. It read 666! That's it! I took the ear buds out and decided I'd only listen to church choir music the rest of the day. Totatly true story! steveOrino
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New pics on my second day of ownership. steveOrino