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    How many of those people work at companies that have operated at a loss every year for the last 35+ years? Regarding Congress member's salary - it's not that big of a deal. Campaign finance and term limits much more pressing.
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    Modern interpretations of gay or straight don't really apply. Considering your past efforts to discount/demean various aspects Christianity, some having to do with the historical record, you sure do seem more than willing to put Alexander on a pedestal, overlooking his history, in favor of your own interpretation. . None of his biographers ever claimed that Zeus appeared before Alexander, but we know better. Alexander poked the fartbox of quite a few lads, but that should not be considered homosexual behavior. Crack me up.
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    How about church bake sales to provide clothing for needy children? Unacceptable?
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    I think it comes down to how it is sold and where the proceeds go. Going for the heavy guilt or any kind of hard sell probably creates more ill will than any about of benefit could offset. Using proceeds for the new recreation wing doesn't cut it either.
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    In the ancient world, it would very, very easily have been interpreted that way. You can't put modern standards on ancient thought. You say it "would very, very easily have been interpreted that way", but (from what I can tell) none of the historians from the ancient world interpreted it that way.
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    Ideas of what gods were and how divine communications worked were very different in ancient times to what they are now. The god Ammon (considered by the Greeks to be Zeus under a different name) addressed Alexander as a deity. That this is through an oracle, or even that it may have been a slip of the tongue is irrelevant to the ancient idea that the god did actually talk to Alexander and confirm his divinity . A priest may have given Alexander a message from Zeus or maybe the priest merely incorrectly uttered a syllable? I can see how some might interpret this to mean Zeus appeared before Alexander.
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    I guess any claims of Zeus allegedly appearing before Alexander are just pure fiction.
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    Speaking of moving the goal posts. I asked - So Zeus appeared to Alexander The Great? Kallend replied - You should go to the library more often. Since then, I've basically been asking that same question. You've posted a few personal attacks about my not knowing of this. I've checked here: http://www.greece.org/alexandria/alexander/Pages/siwa.html and here: http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Plutarch/Lives/Alexander*/4.html and here: http://www.siu.edu/~dfll/classics/Civ2004/alia/alexander.pdf as well as a bunch of other sites and come up with nothing claiming Zeus appeared before Alexander. How about a link?
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    NCc will argue about anything to avoid the actual topic of a thread. The man never met a nit he didn't want to pick repeatedly batter into the ground with a sledgehammer. The only reason I questioned this kallend's latest claim is because it goes to a pattern of misrepresentation.
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    What's that scraping sound I hear..... it's goalposts being moved! You never said I had to show exactly where Alexander himself claimed it. I just had to show that kallend wasn't making shit up and that the idea of Zeus appearing to Alexander wasn't conjured out of thin air 30 minutes ago. What sites have you been to, have you read any primary sources, how much do you actually know about the demi-god myth surrounding Alexander? WOW You're doing a fine job of missing the point. Accusing me of moving the goalposts? I'm just trying to find a credible source claiming that an entity presumed to be Zeus appeared before Alexander the Great. Could you provide one? Or are you just going to continue with your cheap personal attacks?
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    Claimed by who? Is it claimed that Alexander ever stated that Zeus appeared to him? It is claimed that he did and it is claimed that he didn't. As prone to mood swings as Alexander seemed to be (from the accounts that reach us) I personally think it is entirely likely that he both did and didn't claim it depending on the occasion. Many of his soldiers and contemporaries believed that he was a demi-god and many believed that he wasn't. Both Arrian and Plutarch report that he was spoken to by the God at Ammon and "received the answer that he desired." I've checked a bunch of sites, that seem pretty credible, and couldn't find a single mention of Alexander making such a claim.
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    Kudos to Harry.
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    Claimed by who? Is it claimed that Alexander ever stated that Zeus appeared to him?
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    Beowulf meet Hairyjuan, ... Oh, I see you have already met. Just because you had warm and fuzzy feelings at certain key points in your life doesn't mean god was speaking to you. But you choose to interpret them that way. I don't see how you could call that evidence. What do Jesus and God have to do with whether or not Alexander the Great existed?
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    Some people go to great lengths to miss the point.
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    Bwaaaahaaahaaha!!!! Your appalling ignorance of ancient history is duly noted. Enlighten me. When exactly did and entity presumed to be Zeus appear to Alexander the Great? I'll give you two words. the first is Olympias and the second is Ammon. You can do the leg work
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    Bwaaaahaaahaaha!!!! Your appalling ignorance of ancient history is duly noted. Enlighten me. When exactly did an entity presumed to be Zeus appear to Alexander the Great?
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    Some people go to great lengths to miss the point.
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    Taking steps to assure a policeman that you are intentionally acting in a non-threatening manner means you're treating the policeman as an adversary? Okay.
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    Of course. There are multiple independant literary sources, inscriptions and mounds of associated archealogical evidence attesting to his existence and his conquest. There is not, however, a shred of real evidence that he actually was the son of Zeus - no matter what he said. If the FSM wants to appear to Alexander as Zeus, who are we to question it? Human logic can't comprehend the ways of the FSM. So Zeus appeared to Alexander The Great? Your post is the first I've read of this. Another one of your distortions? Hmm. You should go to the library more often. Indeed I should. That has no bearing one whether your claim is true or just another one of your lies. I'm going with the later.
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    Fabricated any good quotes today? It seems like just about every day you spew some new non-sense. And all you have to come back with is an isolated, arguably dishonest quote. LOL And you should know the title of this thread shouldn't be taken literally. Just wanted to make sure so you don't come back in a week or so whining and moaning about the dishonesty of it all.
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    Of course. There are multiple independant literary sources, inscriptions and mounds of associated archealogical evidence attesting to his existence and his conquest. There is not, however, a shred of real evidence that he actually was the son of Zeus - no matter what he said. If the FSM wants to appear to Alexander as Zeus, who are we to question it? Human logic can't comprehend the ways of the FSM. So Zeus appeared to Alexander The Great? Your post is the first I've read of this. Another one of your distortions? Hmm.
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    The links to the .gov sites did NOT have the conclusions in them that you claimed, as I already wrote in this thread. That's why it is IMPORTANT to go to the original data and not someone else's possibly bogus conclusions. I do not parrot stuff off the Brady site, and you should not parrot stuff of the NRA site. Neither can be trusted. Funny, you seem to think being given the actual data on which some conclusions were made is insufficient (data which can easily confirm or refute those conclusions), but the google search results of my+lai+colin+powell somehow proves that Colin Powell attempted to cover up the My Lai Massacre. Double standard?
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    Shut them down and send everyone back to their native countries.