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Just a nice little tip for you ... if you want an intelligent argument than don't call the other person stupid, asinine, unintelligent, and thoughtless for doing nothing more than bringing up a subject. And to both of you..... if you are looking for an intelligent argument...the internet usually isnt the best place to search..?? JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

I have about 750 wingsuit flights, and one spin doing a weird, and way to fast diving transition to backfly, started spinning so fast I couldnt believe it. Like someone grabbed my feet and swung me around. Didnt stop with arching/lazy delta track. Went to a ball, rolled over and went back into flying. Also have several friends pushing 500 to 800 wingsuit jumps who never experienced it. I do suspect (as lurch sayd in the other thread) it gets harder and harder to get into such spins as your skills increase. But ask Pierre about his recent flatspin adventures. I dare call him one of the most experienced flyers around, and he spent 7000ft on his back, spinning in one of the more recent 'big suits'. Nobody is trying to convert you to the church of flatspin. If you're a happy man flying, and there is not such thing as a flatspin to you. Then why worry about it. Treat it like a religion, and let everyone be happy in what he or she believes. But everyone must agree that bigger wingsuits pose a lot of extra risks and challenges (esp. when things go south) to the lesser skills. And 4 jumps is by far not the recommended experience level required to fly something like this. The bigger the suit, the less feeling of what you're actually doing. Flying a smaller suit, and having to work to fly, instead of always doing the lazy hammock chilling in wings 3 times bigger than the jump you're making requires you to do. It just makes you a better flyer if you're FLYING instead of always only using 50% or less of a suits performance. And esp. concidering aerobatics, smaller suits are just easier to learn. And WILL make you a better flyer when you go back to your big one.. JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

SeeDorf in Germany is a militairy dropzone, and with all dropping of skydivers being classified as 'militairy', they dont really care in how many clouds you jump, as long as you dont land out. But 90% of europe sorta has a 'we'll look the other way' approach to clouds and skydiving. As long as its safe. Unless its Belgium...they done really care JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

I was THERE when people where trained Scott. I have video's of said person(s) training low timers. I was THERE, protesting what they where doing. There was no error in info on their students experience level. It was a deliberate decission to do so. And its only a matter of public image by which you choose to steer this conversation in a different direction. Lets not focus on just one camp, as it crosses over into all of them. ANSWER THE QUESTION scott..... Will we EVER see any of the self-proclaimed instructor-instructors having to take ANY responsibility for what they do? Or (again) do they live above their own laws? As mentioned, I was THERE when it happened. I can even point it out in video to you if you want. Its not hear-say. Its KNOWING. This is happening NOW..not in the past. Like any instructor in other diciplines. Not adhering to rules, get a slap on the fingers, or worse, loose your rating. You could take people up in a wingsuit straight off AFF, and still keep flaunting your BMCI title everywhere.... JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

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Those are controlled spins..lets hope it remains a mystery for most people... But Ill show it in a week or 3...I have a nice one from Scotty Burns on tape, captured during Zflock (video is 30% done) Its instantanious, and I think he does about 1080 degrees of spin, in less than a second out of the door. He balls up, and goes back into full flight, textbook. JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Talk about selective quoting Scott... But you have made it clear you ARE fully missing the point and uncapable of actually understanding what I and many are people are talking about. Stick your head back into the sand, and have fun I guess I made the mistake of NOT reading someones logbook, and thus not finding out sayd person didnt have the experience level quoted to me when I took him up. A mistake. And unlike you (where a question like this would be met with a deaf response), actually being man enough to admit to it. Its not a fact I ever tried to hide or lie about. Nor do I care. I fucked up, hope you or someone else learns from it, and makes sure he doesnt repeat the same mistake. To answer your question. And you answer this one. Would mentioning the names of the 'corrupt' BMCI's result in them publicly accepting responsibilty for what they did? Or will they ignore it, and continue their biz as usual. Its a giant shame, that the people I looked up to, people who where my hero's, my examples and the whole reason I wanted to get into wingsuit instruction....that those same people are now the reason for me to be close to ambaressed to even mention the fact that I took a BMI course in the first place. JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Its the fact that I give straight answers to questions, and you always skim the subject by by diverting the issue to something or someone else. Not an issue I have with anyone else but you. Again, Im not trying to be an ass here. But just trying to get a straight answer, for once... Yea..I missed it. So please answer it again. As you answered just about everything exept my question. And Ill be very precise in explaining this time. Three people. Ill give you the names in a PM if you want em, but you quite well know who they are, so why even bother... BMCIs. You know, the guys who TEACH all other new instructors THE standard by which they should be instructing. When someone with 80 jumps walks up to them. The chief-instructors of the program thats set to be the basis of all instruction. And that 80 jump wonder says "can you teach me to fly a wingsuit". Then they....the BMCI's say "sure...come allong!" instead of appointing them to an RW/FF or whatever coach for another 100 or more jumps. No lying about jump numbers. No accidents in taking someone up thinking it was someone with more experience than they actually had. No..KNOWINGLY doing so...not even sticking to the standards they should be teaching. And now my question again. How can people willingly, and knowingly teach and instruct people way bellow the set standards. When out of all people, THEY should be the ones following this stuff down to the letter? And with them currently being 'self appointed chairman' of their own organisation, nobody will ever pull them back, and give em a slap on the wrist. They are above their own laws. Appearantly. And anyone who tries to point that one out is made out for a fool.. heyhey...Jarno has ADD...he doesnt understand... Sure Scott..whatever makes you sleep better at night.. I have. I trained one individual who was appointed to me by someone who I trusted, saying he had the required 200 jumps. A big mistake on my behalf trusting someone else, instead of my own eyes reading a logbook. 100% me to blame. A mistake. And a big one Im ashamed and learnt from. But explain how several instructors can ASK someone for their jump numbers. Get an honest answer with low jumpnumbers. Not even HALF of what they should have. And then choose to take said individuals up on a jump. I can say in full honesty, had I know beforehand that aforementioned person had less than the required jump numbers, I would NOT have taken him up. But again, the people we are talking about would have...just having someone to fly with seems their only interest. I just wished the people I so want to be my shiny example of how things should be done, cant see whats happening here (and mostly, to their own credibility) and change their actions... Ive voiced my concerns about certain things in the past, and my 'worries' about that subject where just plane/rude ignored. Not even answered. Just ignored. Ive tried discussing the subject in a straight and to the point manner. But only one person seemed up to actually discussing the problem. Yet (sadly) not changing his/her actions on the concerns I voiced...but so be it. My biggest gripe is that certain personal emails Ive sent to the individuals we talked about ended up in other peoples hands. I know so, as I got them forwarded back by other people asking 'what this was about'. If someone handles 'personal emails' from me to him/her that way, thats the last personal note Im sending that way. And that pretty much limits how much you can discuss at a 1 on 1 level with that person. With the current topic being, do we need a change in the way things are being done with regards to instruction, this is as ON TOPIC as we can get. When it comes to instruction....Practice what you preach... Nothing more...nothing less... JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

A good example of the pettiness I mentioned in our community. Grow the fuck up people. We're a small community as it is, and this type of shit only further subdivides us and bleeds all the fun out of why people want to wingsuit. Really? You think people pointing out a problem which could almost be described as a cancerous growth at the basis of the teaching system you are advocating is an example of pettiness? But happy to see the whole 'ignore the problem and it will go away' works for you... JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

I think most people are not bashing the program, but several key people who methodicly, repeatedly and deliberately choose to not stick to their own program they are instructing other BMI's in when it comes to experience levels of first-timers and instruction. And the whole debate is on ensuring that instruction happens at a certain level of quality. One that is currently up to each instructor and his/her (high or low) standards. If I start training people straight from AFF, there is nobody taking my BMI number away. With several profilic forum members having (knowingly) received their training from well known BMCI's at around 80/90 freefall jumps in experience. I think it shows that the program might be great in writing. But often poor in practice... There is a list circling around on email with BMCI names, and the people they instructed and at which experience level. And when I read that one. I was shocked. As it wasnt a short list. And some of those people critisized Jeff for taking up someone at a low experience level, yet do exactly the same again and again themselves (still!). That aside, nothing but praise for the actual program. On a sidenote, several of the people you mention only account you for a re-write 4 years after the initial version. And not for writing the full thing from the start. Even the Birdman website doesnt list you as the original writer, as you claim here, but merely as someone who helped in some of the updates. Not underplaying your role, but whats the story on that one? Are you one of the founding fathers, or are you putting yourself into wingsuit flying a few years before you actually made your first flight? As hearing 10 different versions on the BMI program and who wrote it does get a bit confusing. And does it really mater? In the end, WHO wrote what isnt important. Its more importent WHATS written, and HOW its used. And at the moment, thats where things go wrong... I think in the end, thats a common goal. With several people working towards this, you'd say something good has to come out of it at some point. And though some people are not thinking of it this way. But imagine the people knowing what they are talking about do nothing with regards to the USPA and wingsuit instruction. And some over-active person with a nack for typing but total lack of knowledge on wingsuit flying writes a proposal, and that gets accepted or approved (as the letter by the USPA director DOES kinda hint at them WANTING something in form of more structured instruction/limits). Personaly, I would (world-wide) like seeing the jump limit becoming a hard rule (and hope people are honest about their jump numbers) And also putting some classes/limits as to what suits people are allowed to fly at what experience levels. As currently, putting people in big ass suits right from the start seems to be getting the norm. And though we're not seeing tons of accidents, just because things are going okay, doesnt mean they are okay. JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Its WIDE legwings that are more prone to flatspins. Akin to a big propelor-blade, spinning the legs around the body. Most people never experience one. But on bigger suits (SM1, Stealth, XS etc etc) due to more wing being on the lower-body, spins can be much more severe and harder to get out. Though bragworthy you (like 90% of wingsuit flyers) havent experienced a flatspin before. To me it just says you're an pussy who isnt trying hard enough JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Yea..that one severly Fks up the 3D severly. Like someone is poking into your eyeballs independant of eachother. This is not needed for 3D stereoscopic shooting. Only when shooting stuff within a set focal distance (close) this is the method to use. But for most stuff (and Id dare say, non professional stuff, where you dont spend more than an hour before a jump checking cam allignments), a completely paralel setup is what works best (even for stuff up to 1 meter in front of the camera). Theoreticly, when shooting 1080i, you are shooting 60 (half-res) fps... Being limited to online anaglyph display is the only limitation. The dual projector polaroid system is a much cooler way to see this stuff. But for webbased (and preview) stuff, its quite a cool thing to see. JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Tony? You serious? Come on guys. I know you are eager to make sales, but given the experience level quoted, this is PAST STUPID! JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Ive also posted it here for you Brian; http://news.flylikebrick.com/2009/07/brian-drake-eu-basetour-2009.html Cheers, J JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Haha...thats more of a personal discovery tony. Most people have been doing that since the skyflyer1 already. The length of the gripper does influence how pronounced the effect is. Watch Robi fly his V3, and you notice these subtle 'alleron moves' and weight shifts inside the suit are all the steering inputs he uses. Not the wild flapping and chaotic leg bending/stretching must of us use in flocking. Less is more... JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

cool stuff. For 3D, maybe try doing a red/green anaglyph version. Which is more standard for eu. viewers as well. You loose the hint of colour you keep with the cyan/red, but because its slightly stronger colours, the compression doesn wash it out as much as the cyan, and you keep the added depth when uploading to YouTube. We did some of this stuff with TopGun a few years back, and even heavy compression didnt seem to bother in terms of keeping the 3d effect. And Ive been doing a lot of (non-anaglyph, but normal polaroid colour) camerawork, animation and visual effects for more recent 3D cinema stuff with work (including some skydiving stuff we're shooting for an amusement park ride-film) and we always use anaglyph 3D for previewing. Red/Green seems to work even in heavily compressed vids. Did you use paralel setup, or set distance paralax on your cams? Both techniques work, but the first one needs a bit more work in post usually. As depending on the line-up of your camera, your video will need shifting to put the paralax at the correct distance (to not get a headache from eye-strain) throughout the shots. Shoot me a pm if you need any help. Cheers, J JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

http://www.vimeo.com/4871633 And again...a strong wingsuit vibe in a totaly different enviroment JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Because they spend a lot of time out in the real world, skydiving. Instead of just reading about it on the internet Its weekend..go jump Sangi.. JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Not wingsuit flying, but inspiring and for some reason makes wingsuit flying pop into your head immidiately uppon watching. Nordic Meet 2009 Symetrical slotted (3d) formations, point flying, varying angles and direction, while all flying within their skills envelope and 100% in controll. A level or precision and beauty that we still have to see in wingsuit flying. And no flapping of arms. All moves accurate and precise. For those who had not seen it yet, the video from 2 years ago is also worth watching. Nordic Meet 2007 JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

cool! Sounds like its time for you guys to create an account and upload some of those jumps to trackingderby or wingsuitcompetition.com. Sounds like instant number 1 positions. JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Noop..luckely most FFCs with poor and/or way premature wingsuit instruction ended okay JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

And WWWN has a new layout. Check it ouuut! JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Noop..Alex is rigt...you're wrong.. Get your facts straight mister....Wikipedia is only one click away Van Richthoffen flew various versions of the Albatros for most of his flying career, and only shifted to the tri-plane Fokker later. 90% of his kills where made in various Albatros' models, and its actually the Albatros D III that earned him the reputation of Red Baron due to the infamous red paintjob (and 22 kills while flying it). JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

Brian, the quoted fatalities might not have been illiminated by new regulations (or actually, current regulations just being enforced more strickt). And I dont think thats what DSE is saying. But those fatalities maybe did help in putting us as a dicipline 'on the map' more, with regards to 'outside' people looking into how stuff is organised. And the sad truth there is...there isnt a whole lot of organised stuff looking across the board...especially with some key-figures who are teaching the current standard/recommendations not even following their own rules and recomendations... A reboot would be a good thing... JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?

August 20 till 23, I will be at the 4 day ToraTora boogie in Cherfontaine, Belgium (actually close to the French border). There will be the posibility to do FFCs and 1 on 1 jumps. Based on attendance, we may have a second load organiser present for the wingsuit stuff. For those into freefly and tracking, there will also be more than enough to do (Fred Feugen and Fabian Raidel also present for coaching and instruction!) The whole idea behind the boogie is trying to get everyone on as many '1 coach on 4 jumpers' jumps as possible. Maximising the learning curve! And of course, fun, fun fun. There will be dayvideos, special jumps, photo ops. etc. Also hoping to see some more Frenchies, seeing as its quite a short drive and not to far from home-turf for them! More info here http://toratora.nl/flightmeet.html Register here http://toratora.nl/registration_boogie.html JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete?