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My identity is what I wish it to be. How a person identifies themself should not be a rule of law. Merely by annoying someone should not come under consequence of legal action by the government. If, however a person threatens others bodily harm or property damage there are laws forbidden such. Yet merely annoying someone should not be a law that has severe consequence. I would hate to have to explain to a pychopathic killer in prison why I was serving time. That might really annoy him and get time added on to my sentence for doing such. "...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young

How ill is this guy? Besides being put to death this month, what is his life expectancy? It would be much cheaper to not tend to his health needs than to execute him. Unless of course, you were to ask Rhonda kindly and give her a sharp knife. Personally, I am neither for nor against the death penalty. However, I do believe that putting someone to death is giving them the easy way out. If someone were to murder my mother, I would rather they be sentence to a life of pain and suffering, hence, no HBO, pool tables, swimming pools, sports of any kind, no telephone or contact with anyone outside or inside (stir) the prison walls. Merely giving a person a life sentence and allowing them all the comfort of home is also not a punishment. Confining a person for the remainder of their life and allowing no comfort would be an un bearable torture and would do more to deter than what is offered now. "...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young

I'll send ya a list and a sharp knife. How soon can ya start? "...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young

U.S. Sailor Arrested on Murder Charges 01/07/2006 Associated Press/AP Online TOKYO - Japanese police arrested an American sailor Saturday on charges of robbing and beating a Japanese woman to death - a case likely to further stoke opposition to U.S. military presence in Japan. William Oliver Reese, 21, was arrested after being transferred to police from the U.S. Navy base in Yokosuka, about 30 miles southwest of Tokyo, said police officials in Yokosuka and Kanagawa prefecture, both speaking on condition of anonymity citing police protocol. The U.S. military previously agreed to hand over Reese, who police said admitted during questioning that he killed Yoshie Sato, 56, in Yokosuka on Tuesday. She was found beaten and unconscious that day and later died of internal bleeding. Reese, who also has been identified in Japanese media, is accused of robbing Sato of $129. The U.S. Navy in Japan said it would continue cooperating with Japanese authorities in the case. "The U.S. Navy's responsibility to see this matter through to its rightful conclusion does not end here, and we will continue to provide our complete support and cooperation with Japanese authorities," said Rear Adm. James Kelly, the commander of U.S. naval forces in Japan. Reese was based on the aircraft carrier USS Kitty Hawk and has been in Japan since May 2004. He has been in the Navy for about two years and Japan was his first assignment, according to the Navy. The case risks further inflaming local opposition to plans to build an American military airstrip in the southern island of Okinawa and base a U.S. nuclear-powered warship at Yokosuka for the first time. Reflecting the sensitivity of the case, the U.S. Embassy issued a statement Friday expressing regret for the crime. "The U.S. military and the American people are deeply shocked and saddened by this event," U.S. Ambassador Thomas Schieffer said. In 1995, an uproar over the rape of a 12-year-old girl by three U.S. servicemen on Okinawa triggered massive protests and led to the relocation of an air base to a less densely populated part of the island. The rape case also resulted in an agreement with the U.S. military that it would hand over American suspects in serious crimes to Japanese authorities for pre-indictment investigation. About 50,000 U.S. troops are stationed in Japan under a joint security pact, but Tokyo and Washington agreed in October to move 7,000 Marines from Okinawa to the U.S. territory of Guam and shift some of the remaining troops within Japan. "...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young

You need to take a better look at the july hooter, that owl has been to the boobie doc, ain't no doubt about it. Just ain't natural. "...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young

From NORML.ORG: Rhode Island Legalizes Medical Marijuana! Friends: Here is some good news to begin 2006! NORML is pleased to announce that Rhode Island has officially become the 11th state to legalize the use of marijuana for medical purposes. (See Associated Press article below.) This afternoon the Rhode Island State House voted 59-13 to pass the Edward O. Hawkins and Thomas C. Slater Medical Marijuana Act, overriding Governor Donald Carcieri's veto. Since the Senate had already voted to override the veto, this bill now officially becomes law in Rhode Island. Rhode Island is the third state to legalize medical marijuana through the state legislature, rather than voter initiative, proving that public policy makers are finally starting to catch up to public opinion on the issue of safe access to medical cannabis. Rhode Island joins Alaska, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Maine, Montana, Nevada, Oregon, Vermont, and Washington State in protecting sick and dying patients who find relief in medical marijuana. NORML would like to thank everyone who worked so tirelessly to ensure this bill's passage, in particular the Marijuana Policy Project, The Rhode Island State Nurses Association, and the Rhode Island Patient Advocacy Coalition. Most importantly, we would like to thank those of you who took the time to write your state legislators in support of this issue. NORML generated thousands of letters from concerned citizens such as yourself to members of the Rhode Island House and Senate in support of medical marijuana. Without your strong and unwavering support, this victory would not have been possible. NORML will be focusing on state-based law reforms in 2006. Please consider making a donation to NORML to assist in our state-based law reform efforts. We thank you for your support on this important issue. Thanks to concerned people like yourself, sick and dying patients in Rhode Island no longer have to fear arrest or prosecution for using the medicine that best suits their needs. Regards, Allen St. Pierre Executive Director NORML ################################# House overrides Carcieri's medical marijuana veto By M.L. Johnson, Associated Press Writer | January 3, 2006 PROVIDENCE, R.I. --Rhode Island on Tuesday became the 11th state to legalize medical marijuana and the first since the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in June that patients who use the drug can still be prosecuted under federal law. House lawmakers voted 59-13, with one abstention, to override a veto by Gov. Don Carcieri, allowing people with illnesses such as cancer and AIDS to grow up to 12 marijuana plants or buy 2.5 ounces of marijuana to relieve their symptoms. The law requires them to register with the state and get a photo identification card. Federal law prohibits any use of marijuana, but Maine, Vermont, Alaska, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Montana, Nevada, Oregon and Washington allow it to be grown and used for medicinal purposes. The U.S. high court ruled on June 6 that people who smoke marijuana because their doctors recommend it can still be prosecuted under federal drug laws. Federal authorities conceded they were unlikely to prosecute many medicinal users, and Rhode Island lawmakers pressed on, passing their medical marijuana bill on June 7. Carcieri vetoed it, and the state Senate voted the next day to override his veto, but the House recessed before following suit. Tuesday's House vote came just before the start of the 2006 session, allowing the law to take effect immediately. Rep. Thomas Slater, D-Providence, and Sen. Rhoda E. Perry, D-Providence, introduced the legislation last year after watching family members suffer from terminal illnesses. Perry's nephew died last January of AIDS. Although marijuana may have relieved his suffering, he never used it because it was illegal, she said. Slater has cancer and several of his family members died from it. He said he doesn't need marijuana now, but it could be part of his treatment in the future. "I'm sure everybody in this room knows at least one person who would have benefited from medical marijuana," he said before the vote. NORML and the NORML Foundation: 1600 K Street NW, Suite 501, Washington DC, 20006-2832 Tel: (202) 483-5500 • Fax: (202) 483-0057 • Email: norml@norml.org "...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young

I normally get depressed at this time of year. It has nothing to do with the holidays. I am coming up on the date that I was diagnosed HIV+. I should be happy to still be kicking. And, I am. I have done more that is posiitve in my life since the diagnosis than before such. The main part of the depression started to set in while listening to Alice in Chains. In 1995 into 1996 a certian woman was living with me and I had strong feelings for her. Before she came to the St. Louis area, she lived up by Seattle, Wa. with Layne Staley, lead singer of Alice in Chains. She commited suicide shortly after Layne's death. If you are not familiar with how Layne died, I will tell you. Layne was in and out of drug rehab for a number of years for a major heroin addiction. His last trip into drug rehab was, appearantly, more than he could handle. The addiction to horse was much stronger than his will to kick it. Layne was found dead with a needle in a gangrene arm. She commited suicide shortly after. I threw her out of my house in 96 after I found smack and a rig that she had hidden. She had no place to go and ended up back on the street. I know that I am not the one who pushed her pass the edge as her demise was going to happen regardless. Drug addiction, depression and suicide seem to be hand in hand in hand. Yet, it is just another thing that tears me up that I threw her out at a time when she needed some one. When I heard of her death, it hurt real bad. Sitting here alone and listening to Alice in Chains and the words of Layne just took me back to the day I threw her out. On top of that I got to thinking of Shayna and how people came down on her. I realized that I was also one of those people who came down on her. I know all to well that by doing such can lead to someone becoming depressed. I have been trying very hard to always understand where a person may be in their life when in time of need and understanding. I have not talked to Shayna since her accident. Yet, I cannot help but to believe that deep in her there must be a depression over what happened to her and how so many came down on her. Being one of those who put her down was not a nice thing to do as I did not step aside and try to understand her motivation for going on TV to tell her story. So what, if she did not get all the facts straight. I do not think that she intentionally lied. I do not think she lied at all. She only said what she knows. It's not fair of anyone to judge so harshly on another as we are not in her place. Some on this board and a number of boards on the net seem to get great satisfaction by stomping on the feelings of others. To those, who do as such, someday you may find yourself in a similiar situation much like Shayna or even my own situation. My heart will still go out to you. To those who are in a situation that seems hopeless, talk to someone or write it down. Seek some sort of help. If you know someone who is in need of help, do not toss them aside. Give them some understanding and a shoulder to hold them up. I have been sitting here looking at a picture of Sandi and wondering if she would be alive today if I had not put her out. Maybe, maybe not. I will never know. New Fashion By. M.S.Hamm From conception death beginning Have an issue with you winning Are you truth or are you fable One last supper at the table Wear a noose New fashion collar Keep it to yourself Stifled holler Bought a casket for a dollar From conception death laughing Have an issue everlasting Conflict with a bug within me Digging ground Too deep can't see Wear a noose New fashion collar Keep it to yourself Never holler Bought a casket for a dollar This is all I am going to write concerning my depression. To everyone who helped me through this with their words, thank you, it was needed. To those who said othwise I hope that you can find something good in youselves and find compassion for the humanrace. It needs all it can get. Peace, M.S. Hamm P.S. Joe, I am looking foward to flying that Xaos after some kickass freeflying!!!!!! "...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young

Tom, What I have been recieving since I have posted is what I need to hear. If I rubbed anybody the wrong way, I am sorry as it was not meant that way. I have been to a number of psycologist to come to grips with all I have done to people and to try and make sense of it all. In some way I believe I am seeking a religion of sorts. I use to believe that I was above it all, untill I was brought down. Only recently have I learned how far down it is that I went. I need to bare everything and put it out for all to see. Somewhere in this, someone else will see themself on the same road that I rode and hopefully detour so as not to crash as I have. The psycologist have told me time and time again that by continuing to keep my feelings bottled is only a means to an end. It is alright to show that you are weak and that is a very strong thing to do. To many people refuse to let their walls down and they live a miserable life because of it. There is liberation in letting go of it. I feel much better by starting a process that I should had started long ago. Instead I refused and it has brought me to this point. I pray that someone else will recognize this same reluctance in their own life and seek help for it. I know that I was unduly harsh on the skydive community as everyone does have opinions and my expectations are just that expectations. Not everyone will understand this. I am only now, after so many years of people bowing to me out of fear, starting to realize the crime in what I have done. I have embraced the 7 deadly sins for so long that it was all I knew. I have cursed the Gods and all that they stood for all the while believing that I myself was the only God. I have faced many people and beat them down only to be beaten down by a virus that I cannot kill. It is the smallest of things that will bring a stone wall down and expose an ugly truth about to yourself. Years ago I would had laughed at a person for doing what I am doing now. I was unlearned in so many ways and uncaring to the feelings of so many. I am looking to find peace in my heart and to be able to forgive and love myself. It is the only way that I have to go. To often do we read on this board of a suicide of someones loved one. I know all to well what they were feeling and know how alone one feels when they think there is no out for them. Baring my soul for all to see is my out and I will continue baring all. It is the only road to salvation and it is a long road to travel. I am not hiding behind a screen name as I posted my real name, as I am a real person. There are so many good people that I will meet along the way and I do appreciate their warmth and wish them well in their travels through life and hope that they to arrive at a their final destination safe from harm. I will be off line for awhile has I have to get repairs to my computer. May you find shelter on the shores of Heaven and peace in the heart of your Lord. Mark S. Hamm "...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young

I am posting this to vent what is eating my soul. I am, also, posting this to vent my disgust in the skydiving community. I love jumping, yet, I do not care for a majority of people I have met in the nine years that I have been doing this. The egos of some is enough to make a vulture spew its gut on what is obviously an egotistic endevour. I know that I am going to get slammed for posting this and speaking what I feel. Yet, I do not give a flat out fuck what anyone thinks of me. I am heading back to the motorcycle clubs but will continue jumping regardless what people think of me. I have tried very hard to fit in. Yet, I feel that I am not very welcomed. I have met some very fine people and I do think the world of them and would give my life to protect those whom I consider to be my brothers and sisters, much like in the organizations that I rode in. What brought me to this point is what happened to Shayna and the poisonous puss that was spewed by so many including myself. When I rode with colors, we stood by each other and stood up for each other, No matter how wrong they were in what they may have done. That is not something that I have seen in this sport. The friends that I have lost in this sport were drug through the mud after their death. In the biker community that does not fucking happen. Say something bad about a bro or sister and your ass is chain whipped for degrading who is of your own kind. Unfuckingthinkable. What pisses me off is that I also drug Shayna and Rick through the mud. And, it is not just them. I have heard so much crap about other jumpers, I wonder if there really is a brotherhood in this sport or is it just the sport of one upmanship that drives it. The friends that I do have, I would take a bullet to protect. The same as when I rode in the clubs. If you are not willing to take a bullet, you do not belong. If you are wondering who the fuck I am, my name is Mark "Norton" Hamm 1%. I also post under the screen name " Flyingloom" for my embroidery business, which has gotten no support in this community. I have been jumping at Freefall Express in Mt. Vernon, Mo. where there are some real fine folks.Yet, I feel that I can no longer jump there as they have not supported my business and I no longer will support theirs. My money will be better spent next door. There are two dropzones at this location and there is friction between the two. What a load of crap. When I was in the organizations we fought for sometime over a bar in East St. Louis as being our turf. We ended that shit because that is what it was, shit. I watched a bro of mine take a round that some asswipe fired through a window. For what? A fucking waterhole. What abunch of crap. Our war ended when it was determined that we were stronger when we stood up for each other. Whether you were a Saddle Tramp or a Road Saint, an El Forrestero or an Outlaw it made no diff what MC you rode with, we were all the same. Now, in the St. Louis area all clubs gather to ride for what it is, a brotherhood. Leave your crap at the door or get your ass kicked and head stoved in. I am not seeing this in this community. Say I am wrong and blind but I have thought long and hard on what I should do to ease my own mind. I have spent the last few days contemplating suicide again. Not just over this but over what my life has become. I am sick and wish most of the time that it would all just end. I need to be in the company of people who actually care for one another. My bros in St. Louis have been contacting me to come back up and ride and enjoy the good times on the road. When I first learned of the HIV in me my bros and sisters were there. In this community I feel shunned by the people who know of my illness. This adds greatly to my depression and I can no longer handle what is eating me up inside. If I continue holding it all in I am going to eat fucking lead. I am not just mad at the skydive community but what has happened to the country I love. I am sick of all the fake patriotism that is so abundant in this country. I am sick and tired of all the crap that our government spews about how they are here when you are in a time of need. BULLSHIT. I see the same crap spewed here at speakers corner and other public boards around the net. What has become of compassion and love. Was it ever here in this country or any country for that matter. Has it ever actually been in the heart of the human race or is it just words that people speak to give themselves a sense of worth. I do not know and I doubt anyone knows. What I do know is that I am not feeling it. I have not felt it in quite awhile. When I rode, it was all around. Ever see bikers hug each other? It happens. We have the sense of belonging and care enough to stand up and show that there is love and compassion. In that world I felt true brotherhood. I do not feel that here. I have been awake for three days. No sleep. I do this constantly. I cannot sleep. I fear and loathe the nightmares and see only my end. When I sleep, I dream of my death. I need a break from what is obviously a troubled mind. I have so much baggage that I carry and I am so alone that suicide does seem to be the only way to end pain. I fully realize that I induced this malfunction in my life. Yet, I still refuse to let go of the toggles and prefer to fight it to the ground. I have very little idea why I do this. I have survived so much that giving up at this point would just be throwing the fight and letting my demons win. There is more than the first reasons that I stated in the beginning of this for why I am writing this. To get into that would take a team of psycologist to decipher. I am seeing a therapist for my depression. I am not sure what good it is doing as I am sitting here writing this. I also fully realize that this will most likely put me further out from the skydive community. Yet, I do not care. I have never cared what people thought of me and will not start now. To worry what others may think is pointless as it has no real bearing on ones life in general. Putting my real name in this will also, I realize, fully, will open me up to ridicule and suspiscion. Yet I no longer seem to care as I have lost all sense of that ego driven motor that makes one want to be seen as the rock of gibralter. I have taken a lot of crap from some on this board for being on disabilty. Hell I am trying hard to get off of it. I have recently been re-established on Medicare to combat AIDS and was told that leaving SSI I will lose my health coverage. And Medicare is NOT free. The Feds take $170.00 a month from my SSI to cover it. I just got a $47.00 increase in SSI. I do not get it as it is applied to the Medicare. Most jobs that I have looked into do not have the healthcare benefit that I need in order to fight AIDS. Medicare is no better. 3 months ago I weighed almost 170lbs. I am now at 140lbs. I do not eat but a few times a week. I have no appitite. Smoking pot kept my weight up but I have not smoked in quite awhile. But who really cares? I have not met many who does. For all the talk of compassion in this country, one would be hard pressed to actually find someone who does give a shit about others. Hell, who am I to talk. Before I was diagnosed, I made fun of anyone with AIDS, I am an asshole for doing that. And it is my own fault for contracting this. I did drugs and slept with an unusually high number of women. Over 800 was the count in a book I kept. That is no shit. I have been to every state but 4 and had my way with women in them all. My own fault. So, now where am I? Why am I writing this? And why would anyone post such a discription of theirself on a board for all to see and ridicule? Mainly, I needed to get this off of my mind as it is a cancer and it hurts a lot to be alone with it. I most likely will not return to this site. I most likely will return to St. Louis and the world that I know more than anything. I wish you all well. Goodbye "...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young

The Sun has been fusing hydrogen into helium and hence providing us with its radiant energy for 4.5 billion years, and it is expected to continue to do so for another 3 to 4 billion years more. And then what? As the sun gets older, it will fuse more and more hydrogen in its core. Once all of the hydrogen is turned into helium, the star stops fusing hydrogen and loses its ability to combat gravity. Then gravity begins to compress the Sun under its own weight again. The introduction of more compression causes the new helium particles inside of the core to collide hard enough so that they can stick together and fuse. The core thus begins to fuse helium into carbon to make enough energy to maintain its balance with the crushing force of gravity. The making of carbon, however, gives off more energy than did the making of helium. The energy being pumped out of the core radiates through the outer layers of the sun called the envelope. The introduction of too much energy into the envelope heats up the envelope particles so much that the envelope expands (for the same reasons that steam rises). At this point in its life, the Sun's envelope will expand to engulf all of the inner solar system out to Mars. The temperature will drop in the envelope as well, as the particles become so spread out that they no longer are colliding enough to create tremendous heat. A drop in temperature in a star can be seen in the change in the color of a star; cooler stars are redder than hotter, bluer stars. Thus, at this stage of its life, the Sun will be called a red giant. If you paid attention in science class, you would already know this. Physics explains everything. You should be able to get another jump or two in before this happens "...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young

I made a silencer for a .223 on a cnc and it works like a dream. That should do the trick for ya. Uhmmmm, Rookie, that is not a smart thing to post on a public board. Amazon, you can stick a potato on a 22 and get the same result and you also get french fries to go along with those coyote burgers "...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young

I have left the plane at 1500' with cypress off. Pulled on the hill and had the Sabre150 between 800-900'. These days I always pull between 4000-3000'. No need to go lower. Once is enough. I do WANT to BASE but that is a differant dog altogether. "...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young

Like I said in the PM, be sure to ask any question, what so ever, that you may have. Welcome to our world above the world "...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young

I LOVE lesbians but they don't LOVE me "...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young

Please.... Jeff Haven't you noticed? Extreme surveillance and spying on the citizens is the hallmark of totalitarian regimes. There was lots of spying on the citizens and little crime in Nazi Germany, the former USSR or its satellites, ditto in N. Korea. These are the models you admire? Speaking for myself, I'd rather have a government that doesn't spy on its citizens unless it can justify it through due process. I am glad that someone elses sees this administration as totalitarian. I seem to get slammed everytime I point that out. "...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young

that's a joke, right? Nope. I honestly believe that Bush and his kind are very dangerous. I do not consider him my president and would not go to war nor would I take a bullet for him. I flat out dispise him and his cronies. I think your comments are quite ugly... As an American citizen, you accept the tenents of democracy and accept that sometimes you may not be part of the majority..but with that, your President is whoever is elected into office by the majority/greatest numbers of voters in America..and every 4 years you have the ability to vote him/her out of office to make clear your views. You also have the right to protest and disagree with the Administration's policies. However, whether you like it or not, as long as you are a citizen of the United States, he IS your president. Thats part of what being an American is. Otherwise, you can move to another country and live their good life. Also, i think its very selfish for you to state emphatically that you would not go to war for our country. Think of all the thousands of people that protect our country so that you have the rights and freedoms that you do and so that you can continue to do the things you want to do. And lucky for you, lawmakers rid the U.S. of the mandatory draft, so that you don't have to think beyond your own self and put yourself in harm's way for others. oh.. and by the way.. I didn't vote for Bush and I do not support many of his decisions, but he IS my president and i would go to war if our country needed me. I just find that there are more constructive ways that spouting venom. Open your EYES. I joined up during the Iranian Crisis and spent several months in the IO, only to find later that Reagan and his cronies made deals with the very people we went over there to protect Americans from. By the way, Carter was Prez when I joined. I would not hesitate to protect my Country from an actual enemy. Iraq was not the enemy. In fact, while in the IO we gave air support to Iraq during the Iraq/Iran war. I, however, would not supply my body to this administration as I believe that invading a country that poses no threat is illegal and immoral. The terrorist were not there when they invaded nor were WMD's. The terrorist are there now thanks to GWB. You do not know me and it is obvious that you have a hard time understanding a simple statement "I do not consider him my president and would not go to war nor would I take a bullet for him. I flat out dispise him and his cronies." No where in that did I say that I would not go to war for my country. The war in Iraq does nothing to protect the USA. If you wish to believe the whitewash that this administration uses to justify their wrong doing, go ahead and keep your eyes close. But, if and or when you get hit by the bus, it will be your own fault for crossing the street with your eyes closed. "...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young

Sending a powervibe your way, Chris. "...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young

I hate to see anything about Texas...makes me wish I was back in Mexia. "...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young

Yes, I agree that he is not an "idiot". He should, however, be relegated to the butterknife bin. If not for being born into wealth, GWB would, most likely, be working on an assembly line and complaining about the government. "...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young

I only have a nickle, can I get 6 of them or do they cost more in a broken dozen? "...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young

QuoteBachelor's degree, Yale University, 1968; MBA, Harvard University, 1975 Founder/CEO of oil and gas company, 1975-1987; managing general partner, Texas Rangers baseball team, 1989-1998 I think very few people on here have the right to call him an 'idiot'.... 2.35 GPA and an SAT of 1206, which is under the AVERAGE yale student. Sounds like someones daddy pulled a few strings. His Havard MBA, well, just look at his business deals as they speak of his ability to conduct a succesful business. As far as his business went it flopped, partly due to the oil crisis and partly due to his inability to handle business properly. His business was bought out by Harkin, buddies of his daddy. He was later accused of insider trading. After he sold his shares the company, Harkin posted a major loss. I would love to read the SEC report on this. His stint with the Rangers was mostly in part due to a group of his daddy's friends, again. He made money, but it is widely known that he was not the brains behind the scenes. I flat out do not like Bush. He is anti-working man. Anti-union. He does not care for the poor, sick and dying. He is a person to scorn. Not idolize and follow blindly. In all fairness, I do not like Clinton, PoppaBush, Reagan, Ford nor Nixon. The last decent and honest man to hold office was Carter. "...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young

Wasn't Kerry's GPA lower than Bush? Either way, yeah, idiot. He does get a slice of raisin pie for his time in Nam. however. "...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young

that's a joke, right? Nope. I honestly believe that Bush and his kind are very dangerous. I do not consider him my president and would not go to war nor would I take a bullet for him. I flat out dispise him and his cronies. "...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young

Considering that Clinton graduated from Georgetown Univ. in 1968, attended Oxford as a Rhodes Scholar 68-70 and then he went on to Yale to recieve a law degree in which he went on to practice and teach law. Very hard to call someone with his credentials an idiot. Even though I do not agree with some of what he did, I, however, would not call him an idiot. Bush and Kerry - Born with a silver spoon idiots. "...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young

He is an idiot and a totaliterian. A very dangerous combination. This guy would like nothing better than to place listening devices and cameras in every home. Right now he is talking of Osama. Why wasn't he talking about Osama and not Saddam after 911. Osama is making him look like an even bigger idiot as he did the best thing he ever could had done for Bin Laden - attack the man that did not attack the US. "...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young