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Ok I see. So however it needs to be done where its fair and square and all sides get their chance, lets do it and get the shit over with. Once again to keep it clear for those that are slow I would vote yes for it. According to this we have been fighting about gay rights for 63 years. http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0761909.html

How about you debate the information, not the source. The wiki link was BASED on research from the williams institute. Are you suggesting that wikipedia users can alter research data cited by links directly to the williams institute in their articles?

No thats what I have been saying from the get go. From my first post in this thread

whos rights am I trying to yank? I agree with gay marriage and abortion it should be a persons choice, lets pass it and move on.....

Your clearly not paying attention, I diddnt say it was legal or not, I said its time to vote on it and put it to bed. Its not a dead topic, its one that clearly is still debated on.. http://www.sheknows.com/health-and-wellness/articles/974143/obama-vs-romney-what-they-think-about-abortion-and-planned-parenthood Yea no shit, that's why i've said about 3 times in this thread that we should pass all the gay equal rights laws and move on. You are the one that needs to pay attention. IMO all of this should be a legal personal choice, lets vote on it make it a law of majority wish, and move on to bigger and more important shit. If it does not pass, then ooh well I would accept that too. If you want to marry a guy or girl, what does it hurt anyone else. If you dont want that kid inside of you and the guy that put it there agrees, what does it hurt someone else to have an abortion.

Doing simple work for you again... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_demographics_of_the_United_States http://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/research/census-lgbt-demographics-studies/how-many-people-are-lesbian-gay-bisexual-and-transgender/ http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/health-survey-gives-government-its-first-large-scale-data-on-gay-bisexual-population/2014/07/14/2db9f4b0-092f-11e4-bbf1-cc51275e7f8f_story.html http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/07/21/how-many-americans-are-lesbian-gay-or-bisexual/ http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=12&ved=0CGIQFjAL&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fnchs%2Fdata%2Fnhsr%2Fnhsr077.pdf&ei=Hhg0VN29F8G2yATyl4CIDQ&usg=AFQjCNF4mVd_YHH4hPIirA-NzUP9bPtaPg&sig2=7rS6yypF2HY2Ypubuxk-nA&bvm=bv.76943099,d.b2U&cad=rja The point was not about the exact number... The point is we are wasting so much time and energy on a small majority of people for so long, that I believe the system has failed us all and its time to pass it and move on to things like the economy, healthcare reform, border security, jobs, government fraud, infrastructure repair, foreign relations, etc.

Vote on it, if it passes, it passes, if not then live with it. Why dodge a vote that might pass or fail just to cater to a fraction of the population. If it wins and the GOP or religious people are butthurt, fucking live with it, it's what the majority wanted. If it fails, then the other half has to live with it. I don't see how it's ok to do the run around for some issues, and not the others let the people vote, enough is enough. I would vote for it just to take it out of the media, and out of the presidential debates.

I understand there is a system to handle the little shit issues by elected officials to not burden the nation in 1000 votes a year, but we have been debating this shit for far too long, and I don't see how it would hurt to finally have an election by the people and get it over with. The politicians can't get it don't in 20 or however many years it's time for us to do it.

I've always gotten stamps except when driving back from Mexico on a fishing trip, they are not in order, sometimes different pages.

Actually it was 0612 when I first woke up and was getting dressed, and replied at 0643 when I was eating breakfast and making shift change. Work starts at 0700 and I have not stopped yet until just a few min ago to stop and take a shower. Google that shit, the information is real and out there, just because I was in a rush posting off my phone and got it off the first links that popped up does not make it bullshit.

Did you actually fucking do any work and google it for yourself?? Try it you will find my numbers are not as you say. My point was not to talk about percentage of gay Americans. The fucking point was its not 50% so its not a huge issue for the United Stated government to be wasting all this god damn political and media time over. I'm fine with gay people, gay marriage, gay equal rights. Lets vote on it, state by state, or on a federal level BY THE PEOPLE, and quit letting these bullshit politicians and judges make all the rules. Once its done and voted on move the fuck on to the economy, or foreign relations, health care etc.

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Nope, just been busy at work, and could not reply to your condescending insinuations...I doubt you know the feeling. There are many issues going on out there with the items below, and I dont have the time to find them right now and go into a long drawn out detail. 1. Immigration and Nationality Act 2. Deferred enforced departure 3. I forget the title or number(someone can find it) but it basically was a bundle of earmarked bullshit in 2011 that the president passed with executive order. He allowed it all to pass because it had a provision in there that allowed easier entry along the southern border which he wanted, but buried inside all the bullshit took away protection systems that was in place to find and prevent infected border hoppers from making it into the us. Why cant they just check passports and deny people who have recently been in the infected countries? I know my passport has a stamp and date for all the entries and exits, how hard is it to flip through the pages, and find a recent trip there? Thats without any electronic database measures, and questionnaires that they can lie about... Ok im off to do more work. Have fun doing whatever it is you do while other people are actually working for a living.

It's my point. I told him to reach for the info and he couldn't. I found 3 drops in 1 try. Stop being spoon fed.

Who cares, make that figure 10-15-20-25%. It's still some silly shit to be worrying about in 2014. Why are the governemnt the ones making the decision. On the next presidential election put it on the ballot, let the people vote and move the fuck on. Same thing for abortions.

Who gives a shit! Only 3.5% of the population in the U.S is gay, but it eats up how much useless presidential debates, court, and tv time?!!!! Pass the shit and lets move on to more important things we need to be fixing in this country!

guess you did not search hard enough, please try again

Obama did away with a travel restriction in 2011 that would lock down entry points to travel from people in such places. Look it up it was one of his executive orders. It was bundled together with a bunch of other stuff that he wanted to get rid of to ease Mexican border entry requirements, but now seems to have bitten us in the ass.

Does it still not provide a wage?? I'm a firefighter I started 15 years ago making 18,500 a year. 15 years later I bring home about 38,000. Unless the city goes bankrupt or i fuck up really bad I have a job. With that security I still have went out on my own and gotten a cdl license as a backup, on top of that i have skills I earned when I was 18 before I got hired that will at least get me a low wage construction job. I have nothing but a high school degree and determination. I don't care if I have to work McDonald's. I have lived within my means and can get by on low wages. If I have to I could survive working at McDonald's. If you have a 500k house and a new car I'm sorry if a basic job won't pay your bills, you fucked up in your life plans, and you need Dave Ramsey.

You gonna have your house get foreclosed on or get out there and bust ass no matter what you have to do?

Why? The twitter post did not say that her friend which is on the grand jury said that. I read it as I know someone on the grand jury. There isn't enough to warrant an arrest at this point. It it a crime to tell people your on a grand jury if that is all you say?

You mean if people are unable to get free shit from Obama they will actually get out and find those jobs that diddnt exist they said? Wow! Who knew! I knew! That's who!

Guess the do teach sarcasm over there. So tell me this have you ever lived in America for any length of time.

And where do you live exactly?

One billion. The cdc expects 550,000 cases in Africa.