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Ever done any of these things? Anyone person here would agree that in a normal circumstance these actions would require ID. -Buying alcohol -Getting into bar -Refi-House -Got a signature loan -FAA Medical exam -Drive personal vehicle -Bought a weapon -Bought rilfe/pistol ammo -Got decongestant form CVS -New doctor visit(to verify I was a covered pt) -Rent car -Fly on plane -Rent hotel

I am sure everyone can come up with a story about how they NEVER have to use ID. I can name you ones I have NEEDED it for from recent memory. -Buying alcohol -Cashing check -Getting into bar -Refi-House -Got a signature loan -FAA Medical exam -Drive personal vehicle -Drive firetruck -Renew EMT license -Got my Technician Ham license -Verified who I was to be able to pick daughter up from school -Shoot at the gun range -Bought a ruger 10/22 -Bought rilfe/pistol ammo at walmart -Got meds at CVS (yvyance ADD meds) -Got decongestant form CVS -Got chlorine tablets at walmart for inflatable pool (the computer poped up to ask for id) -New doctor visit(to verify I was a covered pt) -Rent car -Fly on plane -Rent hotel -Vote.... Most of these things are not going to be done by a poor/elderly person I understand that but about 3-4 of them are. That aside I do not see how a fully functioning member of society can not go without id despite this voter ID argument. Im not rich, im a firefighter that has a 7 year old, and I still manage to run into situations where I would need an ID.

Crime follows poverty not race....

Or the CURRENT SITTING acting surgeon general Boris D. Lushniak could step up and do his job despite the senate block he is the person in charge. Ooh wait thats because the current administration is keeping him locked in a closet so they can blame the GOP/NRA for the lack of a surgeon general action on ebola.

Yes I see, but would that not have given him a Consular Report of Birth Abroad DS-1350(new form FS-240) which would have been his birth certificate?

Right, so did that automatically make you a US citizen because they were American and you were born overseas and your explaining why you do not have a birth certificate, or even though they were American when you were born overseas you had to get some green card? I fail to see what the passport is all about other than to get you back into the US. According to this page you should have gotten something that is another form of birth certificate which would have helped you get ID, but your problem is very much an extenuating circumstance that is not being faced by the alleged 11% although I recognize your troubles. http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/english/abroad/events-and-records/birth.html

How were you able to become a citizen I am unfamiliar with the different processes, and outcomes?

I vote solar we have at least 4 billion years left of that stuff. I also vote not to mandate, but make it reallllly appealing to recycle everything especially things made out of plastic, and anything with limited resources like specialty metals in electronics.

CDC admits shortcomings in protecting nurse from Ebola The head of the agency outlines steps designed to stop the spread of the disease in the U.S., including increased training for health care workers. By EMILY SCHMALL and NOMAAN MERCHANT The Associated Press FORT WORTH, Texas — The nation’s top disease-fighting agency acknowledged Tuesday that federal health experts failed to do all they should have done to prevent Ebola from spreading from a Liberian man who died last week in Texas to the nurse who treated him. The stark admission from the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention came as the World Health Organization projected the pace of infections accelerating in West Africa – to as many as 10,000 new cases a week within two months. Additional Images The Associated Press Centers for Disease Control Director Tom Frieden provides an update on the latest developments involving the deadly Ebola virus and its infection of a Texas health care professional as he addresses the media at CDC headquarters Monday. Frieden said the CDC is working to improve protection for hospital workers after a nurse caring for an Ebola patient in Dallas became the first person to become infected with the disease inside the U.S. The Associated Press Centers for Disease Control Director Tom Frieden provides an update on the latest developments involving the deadly Ebola virus and its infection of a Texas health care professional as he addresses the media at CDC headquarters Monday. Frieden said the CDC is working to improve protection for hospital workers after a nurse caring for an Ebola patient in Dallas became the first person to become infected with the disease inside the U.S. Agency Director Tom Frieden outlined a series of steps designed to stop the spread of the disease in the U.S., including increased training for health care workers and changes at the Texas hospital where the virus was diagnosed to minimize the risk of more infections. A total of 76 people at the hospital might have had exposure to Thomas Eric Duncan, and all of them are being monitored for fever and other symptoms daily, Frieden said. In addition, health officials have been monitoring 48 others who had some contact with Duncan before he was admitted to the hospital. The Associated Press reported Monday that Pham was among about 70 hospital staffers who were involved in Duncan’s care after he was hospitalized, based on medical records provided by Duncan’s family. The announcement of the government’s stepped-up effort came after top health officials repeatedly assured the public over the last two weeks that they were doing everything possible to control the outbreak by deploying infectious-disease specialists to the hospital where Duncan was diagnosed with Ebola and later died. “I wish we had put a team like this on the ground the day the patient – the first patient – was diagnosed. That might have prevented this infection. But we will do that from today onward with any case anywhere in the U.S.,” Frieden said. Frieden described the new response team as having some of the world’s leading experts in how to care for Ebola and protect health care workers. They planned to review everything from how the isolation room is laid out, to what protective equipment health workers use, to waste management and decontamination. In Europe, the WHO said the death rate in the outbreak has risen to 70 percent as it has killed nearly 4,500 people, most of them in West Africa. The previous mortality rate was about 50 percent. President Barack Obama, speaking at the end of a meeting with U.S. and allied military leaders, declared that the “the world is not doing enough” to fight Ebola. “Everybody’s going to have to do more than they are doing right now, he said. Nina Pham became the first person to contract the disease on U.S. soil as she cared for Duncan. Pham released a statement Tuesday through Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital saying she is “doing well,” and the hospital listed her in good condition. The hospital CEO said medical staff members remain hopeful about her condition. The 26-year-old nurse had been in Duncan’s room often, from the day he was placed in intensive care until the day before he died last week. “I’m doing well and want to thank everyone for their kind wishes and prayers,” she said. Pham’s parents live in Fort Worth, where they are part of a close-knit, deeply religious community of Vietnamese Catholics. Members of their church held a special Mass for her Monday and sorority sisters at the Texas Christian University held a candlelight vigil for her Tuesday. At the hospital, she received a plasma transfusion from a doctor who beat the virus. She and other health care workers wore protective gear, including gowns, gloves, masks and face shields – and sometimes full-body suits – when caring for Duncan. Health officials have said there was a breach in protocol that led to the infections, but they don’t know where the breakdown occurred. Among the changes announced Tuesday by Frieden was a plan to limit the number of health care workers who care for Ebola patients so they “can become more familiar and more systematic in how they put on and take off protective equipment, and they can become more comfortable in a healthy way with providing care in the isolation unit.” Frieden said he was fully aware of the fear among health care workers in Texas and around the country about the risks of contracting the virus should it spread further. In response, he said an on-site manager who is an expert in infectious diseases will be in charge of every step of the process, along with new training for health care workers. “Ebola is unfamiliar. It’s scary, and getting it right is really, really important because the stakes are so high,” he said, adding that he wishes the CDC had done more from the beginning. “We did send some expertise in infection control, but I think we could in retrospect, with 20/20 hindsight, we could have sent a more robust hospital infection-control team and been more hands on with the hospital from day one about how exactly this should be managed,” Frieden said. The agency explained that its initial priority in Dallas was public health: tracking down anyone who had contact with Duncan to be sure there was no spread of the virus in the community, CDC spokeswoman Barbara Reynolds said. Here you go a wall of text free from running anyones click count up.

The left have established that argument well on in this thread which is your intent in replying to me about it so it is your argument stop ducking. I CLEARLYestablished that most banks require ID, just because I stated you can find that odd bank that allows you to open one without ID does not mean . Your clearly reaching for anything you can. You just cannot vote by mail because you feel like doing so out of convenience. I dont even remember what your point about this is anymore which I think is your point in all of this... please clarify.

I saw that yesterday, thats pretty bad ass IMO. That could just be my thinking due to the fact that the new season of Sons Of Anarchy is back on tv

Sure its possible. I linked the two banks in my town that are with in walking/biking distance of most homes. I guess your non ID having low income/elderly voter that you are setting up this argument for could drive into town whenever he need to visit a bank that will allow you to open an account without ID, but that invalidates the lefts argument about being non mobile enough to go get an ID in the first place doesnt it. Not sure how you manage to vote in cyberspace where you live, but you can...VOTE IN PERSON at the registrars office Or you can VOTE IN PERSON on election day at the polls Im done nit picking this with you. You have not brought up a valid argument.

http://www.pressherald.com/2014/10/15/cdc-admits-shortcomings-in-protecting-nurse-from-ebola/ Ask and you shall receive Disclaimer im not a republican, but could not stand jumping at the chance :)

You have said that over and over again, and although technically true, it does not mean jack....People still have a need to get cash right then and there. Further to open a bank account in the first place if you "were" going to deposit that check, you have to have an ID to open that bank account at most banks. https://www.wellsfargo.com/goals-going-to-college/first-account/ https://secureapps.regions.com/oao/app01.aspx?type=lifegreenchk I wasn't trying to set up a strawman, just redirecting back to the main topic that we need ID and registration for the entire voting process no matter the medthod a person is voting.

True that was world production http://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2012/07/09/how-many-years-of-oil-do-we-have-left-to-run-our-industrial-civilization-keeping-in-mind-that-oil-is-a-resource-and-has-an-economical-end/

Its gonna get to the point where they have to stop travel. Not before a dozen more people enter the us and infect a few dozen more here, but they will have to eventually.

Im gonna call bullshit. And IF your telling the truth, shit must be real different over there. I cash a check a couple times a month from my part time job, as well as the other firefighters at my station here who have part time jobs doing electrical work, cutting residental grass, general house repair, dirt work with dump trucks, and dozers. You think all those people they do work for set up one time electronic direct payments for a one time job to pay all these guys?? No its with CHECKS! I was not addressing his absentee ballot argument I was addressing his argument at ID itself does not work, which I agree with, it needs to be paired with registration. If you want to go that route we can. You still need to be registered and show ID for absentee voting at least in my state, so yes it would still apply.

All estimates I have seen was 50 years till oil(all hydrocarbons) production is cut in half, and 100-150 years till all hydrocarbons are exhausted.

Its not good when we are taking out our own healthcare workers, not good at all. The nurses said they were under trained and under equipped, who knows if that CYA, or a real statement.

Ever cashed a check? Everyone is hung on the ID law part. The ID law part goes hand in hand with registration thats what the ID is for to cross reference proven registered voters with the person who is on scene at the voting booth. I will quote you the first line of this thread.....

We do not use a check book to pay people personally either, but my part time job pays in checks, and an insurance company just paid me in a check last week for a guy plowing over my mailbox. The fact is businesses still use them, and banks require ID to cash checks due to fraud period.

According to the left you don't need an ID to cash a check so your good to go!

I don't buy it. I've been in the worst run down neighborhoods of Louisiana with the poorest welfare dependent people in the nation, along with group/nursing homes. We require Pt information for all reports, and ask for insurance/ID on every call . I can't remember a single call in going on 19 years that we asked for an ID they could not produce one. I just don't buy it. I would suggest the 11% of voters the dmv study are referring to are part of the 68% that do not vote. In stead of focusing on people who allegedly do not have an ID I would like to see the numbers of people who do not have ID but if they had the chance would vote.

Your telling me 11% of Americans (the estimated ammount)have never needed to cash a check at the bank? Or do ANYTHING that requires an ID? The way you say it we are talking the poor/elderly/etc who are probay on governmental assistance. Does one not need ID for welfare services?

You do understand that I'm just messing with you about that right.... I'm sure ASAP it will be confirmed, but for now it's not how you said it was so I get to point that out to you.