Kennedy

Key descriptor: PUPPET You have a better idea? Another way to encourage democracy? Or an easier way to grant the Iraqis security and self determination? witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

I thought it was a dwarf on the island, not a troll. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Our team? So now it's us versus them? Racist much? Shit, let's just call for race wars right now. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

key word here: INTERIM witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

"Every black person benefits from an economy built to some extent on exploited cheap black labor enabled by discriminatory laws. They benefit from the foul." My family never owned slaves. Explain to me how I benefit from today's economy more than a black person does. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Punishment for those who discriminate. Don't punish me for someone else's idiocy. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Basically, so what? Crips and Bloods shoot people sometimes. Cops and Sheriffs shoot people sometimes. By your logic (or lack thereof), law officers must have exactly the same motives as gang bangers because they took similar actions. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Since institutionalized racism exists, yes, I do think it is ok. If it didn't then it wouldn't be. So you hope to fight racism with more racism? witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

I still think the whole "we" thing is racist. Anyone drawing lines because of race is racist, no? Isn't affirmative action racist? Anytime someone denies something, or offers something, or does something out of the ordinary because of skin color, isn't that racism? Also, why do some people insist that all US born blacks be called "African-Americans?" Most have never been there, and are not sure they descended from there. And what about blacks not descended from Africa (caribbean origin, or south american)? Why should they be called African-American? witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Statement: Unelected leaders are capable of establishing a democracy Example: founding fathers of the US Rebuttal: Are the situations the same? Initial reaction: No one claimed they were the same, you *#$%^& Come on kallend, they had just thrown off one of the most powerful one of the world's most powerful militaries. They also existed in a space where there was no significant threat of invasion by nearby foreign powers. The Iraqis don't have the luxury of starting out far from influence. They also had help in ousting their oppressor. Conclusion: The situations are not the same; however, this does not invalidate the statement that unelected men can bring about a democracy In addition: it helps when the "world's most powerful military power occupying their country" is intent on seeing democracy, since the powers surrounding them are not. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

No. So what? witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

OK, professor, once again, how about you illustrate the similarities of the two situations, or give us some examples of how the two are comparable? I am so tired of insults and comparisons that are not explained, documented, or justified. You want to spout off about US being like cold war Soviets? BACK IT UP. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

What is your statistic meant to say? What does percentage of population have to do with percent of a group that is unemployed? Hispanics out number blacks, and asians are fewer in number than blacks, but both have lower unemployment rates. I'll put out the numbers I thought might mean more. (in thousands) White work force: 120,195 White unemployed: 6,138 percent unemp: 5.1% lower and higher Blck/Afrc work force: 16,417 Blck/Afrc unemployed: 1,691 percent unemp: 10.3 lower and higher Asian work force: 6,029 Asian unemployed: 348 precent unemp: 5.8% and lower Total work force of three groups: 142, 641 Total unemployed of three groups: 8,177 White % of total unemp: 75% Blck/Afrc % total unemp: 20% Asian % of total unemp: 4% (actually, US born "African-American" unemployment is higher than listed because new immigrants, such as black caribs, have a much lower unemployment rate than US born blacks) As to causes, in my observations, it comes from (A) lack of cultural dedication to education or self improvement in US born blacks, (B) from "leaders" who encourage people to be victims, and (C) a welfare state that discourages effort. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Interesting listings and article at yahoo news alternative_energy and veggie cars (too long to quote the entire thing) witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Yeah, I gotta question (warning thread drift in progress) . . . Why do you fear God? Is he mean or something? I love that question. I knew it'd come sooner or later. [serious moment] I'm a firm believer that a healthy dose of fear keeps people civil and society functioning. I don't fear Him as an entity, I 'fear' His judgment should I do wrong. Basically, I do my best to live up to the most important standards, for myself and for fear of being excluded from paradise. [/moment] That, and the whole eternal damnation thing doesn't apeal to me, and he can be a mean bugger if you tick him off. Think back to Sodom and Gomorrah, the tower of Babel, the plagues of Egypt, the expulsion of Adam and Eve from the garden, the casting down of Lucifer and his cohorts, etc etc. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

I love how some people (not just the source for your post/response) seem to think quoting a respected figure or stating the presence of similarity is somehow sufficient to make a point. What happened to illustrating the similarities or stating how the quotes are applicable? Come on, back up what you think, people. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

'Film' as an idea has no rules, but to call something a documentary, it must attempt to portray its subject honestly. (not without bias, but without misdirection or lies) I don't ask that a documentary not have an agenda. I have no problem with a woman who wants to raise awareness to save the apes. An agenda (aka bias) is normal. I do however ask that before calling it a documentary, you not intentionally mislead the audience. Even leaving something out (though this makes your argument weaker in my eyes, because anyone who cares will find what you left out) is fine with me. I take issue with splicing speeches to imply things that are not true. I take issue with calling things by connotative terms that do not apply. btw - people are slamming Moore for his general lack of integrity and his lies in Bowling. Not many have seen F911, so we don't know what its content is. I do however expect the same duplicity and lies. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Rockin' the Suburbs Written by Ben Folds From the album "Rockin' the Suburbs" C F G In a haze these days C F G I pull up to the stop light C F G I can feel that something's not right C F G I can feel that someone's blasting me with hate C F G And bass C F G Sendin' dirty vibes my way C F G 'Cause my great great great great Grandad C F G Made someones' great great great great Grandaddies slaves C F G C F G C It wasn't my idea C F G C It wasn't my idea C F G C Never was my idea witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

exerpt another article on yahoo, from the AFP. site HERE witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Maybe you're confused. The point of a documentary is to NOT DO THAT. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

You must be working hard to ignore everything that's been said. There have been pleny "single little mistakes or inconsistencies" pointed out. If you don't want to acknowledge them, that's your problem. It doesn't mean they don't exist. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

I'm not going to do this dance with you. It's very simple. He misled audiences, and he called his movie a documentary. I'm not going to waste my time or HH's bandwidth repeating it. Do a search. You know it's there...you took part in those threads. http://www.mooreexposed.com/ http://www.spinsanity.org/columns/20031016.html http://www.michaelmoorehatesamerica.com/ http://www.moorelies.com/ http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=11470 http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=34367 http://www.bowlingfortruth.com/ http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Well, she hasn't done anything outstanding as far as I could find, and she's toed the party line tightly. I don't see what makes her stand out enough that someone would make her president if he could. And yes, there are several senators I would call "just another republican." (you know I don't like the Republican party, I just dislike it less than the Democrats) The PAC money makes her just another politician. Her votes (and party affiliation) make her just another democrat instead of just another republican. Also, I'm not basing my judgment of her based on one poorly designed website. I would think you thought more highly of me than that. If you read her website, she is more than sufficiently socialist to be a democrat. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

By claiming his films are documentaries, he is claiming everything therein is fact. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=documentary His "facts" have been proven false in several places and by several sources. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

THIS Maria Cantwell??? http://www.cantwellscash.com/ To be fair, her side is posted HERE She sounds like just another democrat to me. What won her your support? witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*