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Here is an explanation of "statistically insignificant" that should be understandable by the average Right Wing Conservative. The US Food and Drug administration is, among other thing, responsible for food safety and standards. The food standards allow for a tiny percentage of rodent shit and urine in processed food. The percentage of non-citizen voters found in Florida is far less that the percentage of shit and piss allowed in the food you and yours buy at the grocery store. Voter fraud bullshit by Rescumlicans and their sheeple followers is a solution searching for a non-existant problem. Why don't you dirtbags man up and admit that you are trying to supress the vote of people who are likely to vote Democratic?

Obviously what you post is not the case Marc, are you incapable of of doing basic statistical arithmetic? Have you had ANY exposure to statistical analysis? Are you incapable of understanding the concept of "satistically insignificant"? It would be really helpful if the educational system in the USA produced people who had a basic understanding of reality. Based on the writings of RWCs on this board, they are failing miserably. The abundance of staggering ignorance on the right is terrifying. These morons are allowed to vote.

So much for the issue of "voting fraud" the RWC sheeple fell for, hook, line and sinker. You dirtbags stomp on the constitution and citizens voting rights. You must be really proud of yourselves for being so utter stupid as to follow your leaders.

The changed rules regarding the filibuster are the source of the problem. Stand up and voice your opposition for as long as you can. When done sit down, STFU, and let the up or down vote proceed. THAT is what the rules used to be. You, of all people, should know that. The RWC ignorance cancer is spreading rapidly.

The title of this thread is accurate, except for one MAJOR detail. The detail is that the 58 votes were IN FAVOR of the bill. The 40 votes were scumbags opposed to the bill. Using procedural trickery, the scumbags shat upon the veterans. How charming. How many of the scumbags pitched a bitch in 2005, DEMANDING an "up or down vote", by the Senate, when Democrats abused the same rules to stop them? 51 votes is supposed to be all that is required to pass a bill through the Senate. The primary job of the VP is to cast the 51st vote in case of a tie. Due to gross abuse of the Senate rules, the party of NO has been able to stop pretty much everything that was promised in the 2008 election. Then they have the gall to spew bullshit about how little was done. The gullible sheeple on the right wing join in the chorus, repeating the bullshit. How come RWCs let this happen? Do you all have so little respect for the law that you all let htis happen? The clear answer is YES, we don't care about how the rules are supposed to work.

A President who can't even remember how much money we owe. But, hey, let's focus on more important thing like whether a candidate knows if airplane windows can be opened. Does anyone on the right remember the budget trickery conducted by the Bush administration? The Iraq and Afghanistan wars were not on budget. This effectively hid the true costs of the wars. One of the first things that the Obama administration did was put the wars back on the budget. This action is a fiscally responsible decision that should be supported whole heartedly by conservatives and the Republican party. Hiding the costs through deception was allowed to occur, and is not occurring any more. It is exceptionally hypocritical for right wing conservatives to harp about the "debt rung up" by an administration that is not being deliberately deceptive when it comes to wars that cost in the trillions. Your bald faced lies and outright dishonesty are shameful. WRT the original topic, it is ludicrous to expect that Obama would have on hand the amount of the national debt. That number is useless in the context of what he really has to worry about. The facts are that the national debt is of great concern to right wing conservatives only when a Democratic administration is in office. When a Republican administration is in office, what happened recently is quite simple - 1. The Bush Administration started two expensive wars, without paying for them AT ALL. 2. The Bush Administration put the cost of these wars off budget. That was of no concern at all to right wing conservatives, at the time. It still isn't. 3. The Bush Administration initated "temporary" huge tax cuts on the basis of the budget surplus set up by the Clinton administration. These tax cuts were set up to expire after a set time period. They happened while we were starting up the unfunded wars. 4. The Bush Administration staged a huge giveaway to the pharma industry. Preventing the negotiation of prices for drugs purchased in bulk was enshrined in law. That means we, the taxpayer, via Medicare, pay the full retail prices as set by the drug companies. None of the above policies was opposed by right wing conservatives at the time. Why is that? Dishonesty? Hipocracy? A complete inability to discern right from wrong? All of the above is a reasonable conclusion.

thanks It seems that there is more supporting doc released lately that indicate Bush had more warning that we were told at the time Seems very similar to what is happening today Once again, Marc, you have been hoisted on your own petard. Bill has nailed you to the wall. You are squealing like a cornered Right Wing Conservative who has just had their nose rubbed into their hipocrisy, and has discovered the foul stench that hipocrisy has. Do you deny your own words, now? Do you stand by what you said and wrote, whatever it is? Shrub was warned and did NOTHING. Obama was warned and took appropriate measures. Obama's measures did not go far enough. At least he tried. Your boy did squat. Ignorance can be corrected. Stupidity cannot.

But, But, But... The UN is planning to take over the USA!!! Barack Obama is working hand in hand with them, and the muslim brotherhood, to have the UN take over the USA!!! Didn't you get the news from one of the right wingnut web sites!!?!? Buy tons of bullets and all the guns you can get your hands on!!!! We have to defend the USA from the UN!!! It is right there on that website... On a different note - Chuck Norris is a blithering idiot. I have seen the video of him spewing about the nigger in the white house. He didn't use the word nigger, but he might as well have. A dumbfuck and an embarassment to the country. Much like the practicing SOCIALISTS who rail about socialism while happily pocketing the redistributed TAXES other people paid in to the system. Worthless lying sacks of shit...

You need to understand, it won't make too much difference whether BHO or Romney is in the White House. Remember it is two heads of the same snake. What does make a difference is that Romney has a track record of positive business management experience and BHO has a record as a failed President. Keep in mind, prior to 9-11, it was the Democrats that taught us the value of war and the military industrial complex. The practicing SOCIALIST checks in with inane bullshit from the parallel universe that Romney and Clint Eastwood inhabit. The evil black boogeyman in the white house is the root of all evil. Saint Romney the awesome businessman will SAVE US from a fate worse that death. That fate is having a mud person being POTUS. The anus of Florida and perinium of Georgia, is, by the account of the practicing SOCIALIST, a cesspool of like minded people. The government should cut off all subsidies to those people. Red state socialist parasites, the lot of them. I am tired of MY tax dollars being used to help those people.

Why are the righties crowing about how LONG AGO Romney's 47% video was recorded? May, 2012 is SO LONG AGO!!!! Then the next thing they fool the pinheads with is this selectively edited, out of context video from 1998. Thirteen Mays ago!!! Are right wing conservatives ridiculously stupid and amazingly easily fooled by bullshit from their leaders? It looks like the answer is... yes, they are. I have yet to see anyone here talk about when this was recorded I have seen most here go, ah, ok, it is true. What is the issue? I made no comment or implied anything about this video. I posted it for info only Unbundle your undies and re-read the thread You would NEVER find any accurate information on when your lame ass video was created, at least from the information sources you use. Hate to break it to you, Marc, but you never look for factual information, and won't find it at the places you go for info. The lies perpetrated on the gullible are carefully crafted so that the intellectually challenged find it easy to believe the bullshit presented. You could start watching the Daily show and the Colbert report. That would allow you to have some grounding in facts, to a much greater degree than you currently have.

If there were a contradiction, I surely would have addressed it. "The Left" does not "support Muslims." "The Left" supports freedom of religion, while at the same time condemning the way religions are practiced by some people. "The Left" condemns the way some Muslin organizations treat women in the same way "The Left" condems how some Christian organizations treat women. There is no cotradiction. One can support a person's right to their opinions while still disagreeing with those opinions. That's how "The Left" feels about Muslims. No The left supports appeasement of Muslims and attacking Christians When one lives in a paranoid, ill informed fantasy world of right wing lies and misinformation, stupid postings on Internet forums can be the result. If one chooses to read and listen to lies, half truths, and divisive bullshit, and one does not have the intellectual capacity to analyze the info and discard the lies, stupid postings on Internet forums can be the result. Ignorance can be corrected. Stupidity cannot.

Why are the righties crowing about how LONG AGO Romney's 47% video was recorded? May, 2012 is SO LONG AGO!!!! Then the next thing they fool the pinheads with is this selectively edited, out of context video from 1998. Thirteen Mays ago!!! Are right wing conservatives ridiculously stupid and amazingly easily fooled by bullshit from their leaders? It looks like the answer is... yes, they are.

Did any of the usual Right Wing Conservatives happen to catch the opening ceremonies at the London Olympics? Did you happen to note the very long (more than ten minutes) tribute to the NHS? The horrible "socialist" medical system the UK operates. The one that is WILDY popular with the general population? The USA is the only first world country that allows "for profit" insurance companies to provide medical insurance. 1/3 of revenue disppaears into administrative costs, and profits for the companies. Why is that a good way of providing health services?

Feeling has nothing to do with this example. Social Security is a return on investment based on a contractual agreement with the U.S. Government. I see you chose not to respond to my reply to you .in post #97. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4376127#4376127 In other words, when the government program that you participate in pays you MUCH MORE money than you put into it, that is fine by you, even though you profess hatred for "socialism". The reality is that you are a "socialist". You participate in the most socialist government program that is in effect. You are quite happy to be a practicing socialist, as long as YOU personally benefit. The word is hipocrisy. Look it up. Conservative philosophy, over the past 100 years, has opposed many things that have evolved to be normal centrist positions. For example, child labor laws were implemented, then found to be unconstitutional, based on conservative philosophy. Another example is the severe opposition to Social Security, when it was signed into law. It was vilified as a socialist program that would lead to citizens being dependent on the government. These are documented historical FACTS, not opinions. You can look them up in your history books. Ron, when you start slinging mud by calling people "socialists" as a perjorative, don't forget to be looking in a mirror when you do it. By the way, how do you feel about Romney/Ryan's plans to reduce SS benefits?

Comment from an LATimes online story. I could not have said it better, or in as few words. Begin quoted text >>> The way Romney sees it... If you are rich and pay no taxes, you are smart and deserve it. However, if you are poor and pay no taxes, then you are leeches sucking the life out America.

Have you renounced that social security and medicare yet, Ron? Don No, I paid for those through payroll deductions. According to the right wing pundits y'all are so fond of, SS and Medicare are huge Ponzi schemes that are doomed to fail. Ron, if you live an average lifespan, you will have taken tens of thousands MORE than you actually put into the system via payroll deductions. The extra money you get will come out of other people's payroll deductions. That would make you a socialist scumbag, if the pundits you believe in are correct. You will have personally benefited from other people's paying your bills, via a government takeaway tax redirected in your favor. When calling people socialists, be sure to be looking in a mirror when you do it.

Right on target. Romney needs the swing voters. The 47% piglets will continue to suckle the government sow, no matter what. He is discussing how to win the election not how to subsidize genocide. The 47% piglets you refer to are - look in the mirror, genius. Romney is talking about YOU!! You are suckling the government teat. Social Security and Medicare, by your own admission. So much for your right wing beliefs... you are happy to take the bennies when they come to you. You don't want the same bennies to go to other folks, especially the black and brown ones. How much was your income tax bill for 2011? Ignorance can be corrected. Stupidity cannot.

I invite you to check out Glenn Beck, the Blaze TV, now available on Dish channel 212. He and his network is the only source that I am aware of attempting to proclaim a unifying message based on the news of the day. Glenn Beck is batshit crazy. Lies, untruths, and inflammatory bullshit is his shtick. If one views it as a parody, it is, in a really twisted way, quite funny. One has to have serious intellectual deficiencies to believe that psychotics like Beck have any connection to reality. If you believe Becks bullshit, you likely are one of the pinheads that believe that a former professor of Constitutional law is a Marxist/socialist. If one has the intellectual capacity of a twelve year old, it is quite apparent that one of those two statements is blatantly WRONG. The current POTUS spent a few years as a professor of Constitutional Law. That makes the other statement a flat out LIE. Ignorance is a correctable condition. Stupidity is not.

I forget Lefties think government cost has a value added component If one has even a slight glimpse of reality, one knows that there are major parts of the government that have "a value added component". The USDA works to keep the food supply safe. The CDC works on public health issues. The FBI works on national crime issues. The US Military works to defend the USA. One would have to be a complete and utter moron to have the belief that there is no part of the government that has a "value added component". If one is an easily led sheeple who takes weird web sites and massively biased TV networks as gospel, one could come to believe things that are patently ridiculous. Much like the foolish idea that a former professor of constitutional law is somehow a Marxist/Socialist. One has to be an easily led sheeple moron to fall for that shit.

He is a leader of the tribe. Accuracy and facts have no place in discussions of the evil "other" who is a bogeyman to the sheeple of the tribe. No questioning or criticism of tribal leaders is permitted. One must follow the leaders with absolute devotion. In other words, one must be a good German, no matter how heinous the actions of the leaders are. No questioning of authority is allowed.

Keep voting republican and the numbers will continue to incease, quickly. Vote the obstructionist bastards out!!! Hark, here come the numbskulls who will write things like "the dems had congress and the presidency for two years and did nothing". The numbskulls have ZERO comprehension of basic civics and Senate rules. The current crop of rescumlicans grossly abused the filibuster rules to make it necessary to have 60 votes for a bill to pass the senate. 51 votes is supposed to pass a bill. Not 60. The VP's main job is to cast a vote in the event of a 50-50 tie. Due to the gross abuse of the Senate rules, the rescums blew up normal functioning of the Senate. That makes the entire Congress look bad. To the civics illiterate, the lack of progress is all the administration's fault. The rescumlican's treason has nothing to do with the lack of progress. The war on education waged by the rescums has been very successful.

Seems to me the GOP convention would be safe and comfortable. It'd be all the protesters outside catching hell. Occupy Tampa, etc. Come to think of it, the poor and homeless would be the ones to face the consequences. So when the GOP folks are all safe and sound and the rioters outside are impaled with blowing fence posts, would that be read as a message from God? Seriously - do you work at misanthropy or does it come out naturally? The chickenshit rescumlicans wimped out in the face of God's rath and rescheduled their events. I guess God isn't real keen on the abuse of his good name by the dirtbags that comprise the rescumlican party. Why should I NOT be happy that God's wrath has been directed towards the sons of bitches that are the rescumlican party? I certainly don't wish bad things on the average citizen. I trust that native Floridians are capable of preparing for this event. I am not a real prick in real life, but I play one here on dropzone. I am in total opposition to the historically ignorant pinheads that support RWC philosophy, which is screwing up the country, bigtime. The design of the USA is that the people are supposed to decide things, not the wealthy corporations and their executives and owners. By owning the great majority of the media, they control the message, which controls the weak minded who can't discern fact from fiction.

Source: http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/23/us/seal-identity-revealed/index.html He must have been on record as supporting Obama. This is just more proof that voting Republican these days is voting against everything that the USA used to stand for. They have no morals or ethics. What used to be a respectable, thoughtful party has become a cancer on the country.

I am hoping that Isaac goes past the Keys into the gulf, then hooks around and does a direct hit on the Tampa area the day the the rescumlican convention is scheduled to start. That would be an excellent message from God that he is not happy with the scumbags that have taken over a once respectable political party. GO ISAAC!!!!

Maybe he was looking for a job at a poultry processing plant.