funjumper101

Rant #2 Factual statement #2, based on your past performance. Nice weasel move. No ducking this one, Marc. If the preacher was preaching from the Koran, would you be defending the preacher and the judge, or not? Go ahead and show the firm moral compass you have. All laws apply equally to everyone, don't they? The Koran preacher is free to spew his religion on the captive DMV patrons, just as the Bible preacher can now spew his religion on the captive DMV patrons, correct? This is a simple Yes or No question.

This judge needs to be removed from the bench. What would she say to "Jesus Hernandez", a first generation citizen of Mexican ancestry, if he was to come before her? Would she be fair and apply the law equally to Jesus as she would to the third generation John Smith, of English and Scottish ancestry? The odds are against it. Freedom OF religion also means freedom FROM religion. Christianity is no better or worse than any other religion. http://news.yahoo.com/judge-changing-babys-name-messiah-draws-reaction-224909486.htm One of Cheech and Chong's best lines is from one of their early comedy albums. That line is "I used to be all messed up on drugs, now I am all messed up on the Lord", in reference to the jesus freaks of the late seventies.

Change the religious tome being inflicted on the people waiting in line at the DMV from the Bible to the Koran. I am sure that you and your kind would be the first to be offended by the abuse inflicted on your fellow citizens, and be pissed as hell that the judge let the perp off.

and WTF does the judge mean with the insufficient evidence crap??? http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-dmv-bible-acquitted-20130813,0,4123072.story Freedom OF religion includes freedom FROM religion. If you want to conduct your life by the ideas presented in an ancient book of fables, have at it. Trying to force that on other citizens, in a public place, while the citizens are stuck in line waiting for a GOVERMENT office to open, is 100% wrong. If the law currently allows such preaching, the law needs to be changed. Preaching from private property, with permission of the property owner, no problem, as long as you are not disturbing the peace. Why is it that conservatards have no real understanding of freedom and personal liberty? Citizens should not have to put up with nitwits preaching their particular fantasies when standing in line at the DMV, the tax collector, or to vote. The old saying MYOB applies. Trying to force your religious beliefs on others is WRONG. Muslim, Jewish, or Christian, it doesn't matter. Preaching to a captive audience at a government facility should be illegal. The 'tards consistently show that their limited concept of freedom only applies to men with pale skin, of white, northern european ancestry, with extra credit if you are a "Christian". Women and minorities are not due the same rights and privleges. They only are allowed the level of freedom which the white men say they are allowed. Some are more equal than others.

Sane people don't follow scumbag sites like breitbart. Conservatard morons do. Breitbart has never made a positive contribution to society, just as right wing conservatism has never done anything positive for society. Why do conservatards hate freedom and liberty so much? Because their leaders hate freedom and liberty for average citizens. Since they own most of the media, they spread lies and bullshit that gets the 'tards believing things that are patently ridiculous. The perfect example of this is the labeling of the Harvard Law Graduate, and former Constitutional Law professor, as a radical "Socialist". The 'tards are too stupid to think for themselves. They wouldn't know a socialist from a fascist, even though facts are readily available. The hallmark of the 'tards is that facts and science are the creation of "liberals" and therefor have no meaning. Thanks for ruining the USA. It must be real nice to dumb as a box of rocks. You are too dumb to figure out that the practical application of your leader's beliefs are driving the USA into second world status.

Would that be the "bloodied face" he got after following a 17 year old black person who had every right to be where he was, but Zimmerman picked a fight and started to get his ass kicked? Is that the "bloodied face" you refer to? The "bloodied face" that never would have happened except for the vigilante asshole in Sanford, FL who couldn't mind his own business? The murderer got away with the crime due to completely fucked up laws supported by morons and the NRA. The NRA used to have their priorities straight. Not anymore. The conservatards that support the SYG laws and the NRA are partially responsible for the murders that are happening regularly due to SYG.

It is laughable how the conservatards are NOW all pissed off about the domestic spying program conceived and implemented under ShrubCo. Not a word when the votes were taken by Congress, and signed into law by Shrub. Now that a Democratic administration is running the program, the sky is falling and the POTUS is a liar. This is a stellar example of just how easily led the 'tards are. The talking points are spread through the corporate owned media, and the sheeple 'tards repeat the talking points verbatim. The USA is fucked. The media is owned by the corporate elite. The elite uses the power of the media to make people believe things that are not true.

Better is better

Not repealed. It needs to be FIXED, as in, undo the fucked up bullshit that the Rescumlicans forced into the bill. The first place to start is to join the rest of the first world economies that do not permit FOR-PROFIT privately owned insurance companies from operating in the health care arena. Losing 1/3 or more of revenue to administrative costs and profit is stupid. The second place to start is ONE claim form for all insurance claims. Why are conservatards so stupid as to not see that the system is broken and needs fixing? What are you advocating FOR? Repeal of Obamacare so that insurance companies can go back to denying coverage for "pre-existing conditions"? Repeal so that "post claims" underwriting is legal and acceptable? What would conservatards do to FIX the broken medical system in the USA? What would be a BETTER alternative to Obamacare? The 'tards are against everything. What exactly do the 'tards advocate FOR, in terms of solving the problems that face the average citizen?

Faux Spews is a cancer on society. They broadcast bullshit that conservatards believe, even though a cursory check of the FACTS of an issue show that they are mostly liars. How goes the active practice of Socialism? Have you opted out of Social Security and Medicare, yet? As a self professed anti-socialism conservative, how can you participate in the most actively Socialist programs the US Government administers? Do your professed beliefs not square with your actual behavior in real life? That would be a great big YES.

The practicing Socialist chimes in with a STELLAR comment. Bravo

Filthy racist scumbaggery rears it ugly head. As is pointed out repeatedly by other posters in this thread, TM had the right to walk through the neighborhood UNMOLESTED. A grey hoodie does not a thug make, unless you are a racist scumbag. The fact that you identify a black male wearing a hoodie as a thug clearly shows the bias that you share with Zimmerman. Zimmerman should have been convicted based on the FACT that, by getting out of his car and following Martin, AFTER he has already called the police, that action puts Zimmerman as the aggressor. The fact that Florida's laws are so poorly written so as to allow a thug like Zimmerman to follow confront, and then shoot an unarmed person who he picked a fight with, is disgusting to most people. The maggots who think that Zimmerman was justified will hopefully rot in hell for their outrageous beliefs. God WILL punish them, in a just universe. Obama is not perfect. He was, by far and away, the superior candidate in both of the elections that he won. The racist bullshit that has been slung his way by the racist scumbags that make up the right wing conservatard movement is shameful. Shame, a concept that is completely incomprehensible to the 'tards.

State and Federal prosecutions are conducted by different organizations. Different laws apply with regard to state and federal prosecutions. Given that Florida has a "stand your ground" law that let the killer go free, it is 100% correct for the Federal Government to step in and investigate to determine if any Federal laws were broken by Zimmerman. If Zimmerman did violate Federal laws, he needs to be charged and prosecuted. How do the 'tards view the Federal prosecution of medical marijuana sellers that have 100% followed state laws? Should the Feds be enforcing Federal law, or not?

Still can't get the simple concepts I outlined in my post? You can't explain why freedom and individual rights only apply to males of white northern European ancestry, and NOT to adult women. Conservatardism at its finest!!! You have not come up with anything positive that has happened due to conservative philosophy. NOT ONE of the times I have challenged the 'tards on this has anyone come up with anything. That would be because there has never been anything positive for society that has come from the practical application of conservative beliefs. Not now, not ever. Given that you have never managed to come up with a single example, odds are you know the truth. You just can't admit that your whole belief system is a load of worthless shit.

I thought that one of the key values of Conservatives was individual freedom and personal rights. Minimal government intrusion into the private lives of citizens is another key value that apparently doesn't apply to ALL citizens, just those that are male, and of northern European ancestry. Can you please explain why these values do NOT extend to women and their personal medical decisions? The hypocrisy is blindingly obvious to those with half a clue. Don't try to conflate personal medical decisions with extreme "concern for the children". The immense concern that is shown ends at the delivery of the child. After that is over, there is ZERO concern for the health and well being of the child. Reducing the SNAP program, and trying to cancel health care for poor children has been part of what the conservatives push for in Congress. They hate poor people immensely, but do nothing to help them get out of that economic condition.. The 100,000 or so children killed in Iraq are of ZERO concern to US conservatives. For the women who try to reduce personal freedom and choice that has made them equal citizens, instead of chattel controlled by men, you are traitors to your gender. Nothing positive for society has ever come about due to the practical application of conservative philosophy. NOTHING!

So, you are in favor of electing a convicted rapist POTUS? It is truly AMAZING just how ignorant and ill informed Right Wing Conservatards are. The nutter that is Nugent isn't fit to wash Obama's laundry. As a convicted rapist, you would think that the RWCs would distance themselves from him. Quite the opposite. The convicted rapist is a HERO to the 'tards.

Ron's stated positions on many issues brings to mind the classic Cheech and Chong line - I used to be all messed up on drugs. Now I am all messed up on the Lord. The folks that profess to value freedom and minimal government intrusion on people's personal lives only feel that way if the concept is applied to men that are of white, northern European ancestry. Women MUST have government intrusion into their personal, private, medical decisions. They are too stupid to make their own decisions. Another interesting point to ponder is that those people who are rabidly opposed to abortion have great concern for the unborn, but adamantly oppose government backed pre-natal care, the SNAP program, SCHIP, and any other program that would HELP poor females with unplanned pregnancy. "Pro-life" is a load of bullshit. Those scumbags are in favor of the death penalty. Lying scaks of shit, the lot of them.

Where is your sex based joke about other potential presidential candidates? Try to come up with something that hasn't been around for fifty years, recycled by right wing conservatard email lists to attack a capable female with real experience.

Pro Life. What a crock of shit. Are you against the death penalty? I don't give a rat's ass about what individuals think about the subject of unplanned pregnancies and what should or shouldn't happen. It is between a woman and her doctor. End of story. MYOB. Stay out of other people's personal lives. Government interference in the most personal and private decision a woman makes is 100% wrong. Why is it that those that profess to believe in small government and personal freedom apply that concept only to men? When it comes to a woman's personal freedom, having the government involved in a woman's personal choices is WRONG. Always has been, always will be. Perhaps you might read up on the past 150 years of history. In the USA, the context of how women came to have the equality that YOU PERSONALLY have now would be quite enlightening. In your studies, note that the most vehement opposition has come from those that are self professed CONERVATIVES. End Women's Suffrage!!!! Are you ready to jump on that conservative bandwagon? Are you even remotely aware that the laws against an unmarried adult woman owning real property were finally ended in 1964? That is within my lifetime, young lady. You must be blissfully unaware just how hard other women worked on your behalf.

Conservatards apparently are unable to perform the most basic Internet search. Can't say that is surprising. A Google search turns up plenty of FACTUAL information on IRS 501 c investigations, and the results of those investigations. Willful ignorance of the facts is a hallmark of conservatard philosophy. One must take what Faux Spews and Newsmax reports as gospel. No questioning of the current talking points is permitted.

501 c4 non-profits are supposed to be educational. The Conservatard teascumlicans were and are abusing the IRS non-profit exemptions so as to hide the names of their donors. None of the organizations targeted by the IRS were actual "educational" groups. Wholly political, 100%, is why they were, AND SHOULD BE, targeted for careful scrutiny. The liberal groups who try to perform the same bullshit should be, and often ARE targeted for close scrutiny as well. Liberals have much more respect of the rule of law than the teascumlicans 'tards that advocate overthrowing the elected government in favor of the extremely wealthy that are the funders and founders of their movement. Another tempest in a teapot, blown all out of proportion by the corporate (read Rescumlican) owned media conglomerates. Conservatards are so easily whipped up into a righteous froth, based upon inaccurate information, it is laughable, at first. Then it becomes scary. The idiots believe the bullshit they are fed, without questioning any of it. These nitwits vote, and vote for those that do NOT give a rat's ass about their real issues. That is very scary to those of us with brains, and knowledge of history. Nothing positive for society has ever come from conservative philosophy. NOT ONE THING. All of the positives have originated from progressive philosophy.

I agree. They are announcing on the radio this morning that he is friend of Bradley Manning. Lush Rimjob, Nutter Beck, or Scum Hannity? Here is a hint to all Right Wing Conservatards - What you hear on the radio, and on Faux Spews, likely has little or no connection to FACTUAL information. In other words, gullible idiots repeating what was said on the radio are - gullible idiots, aka, Right Wing Conservatards. Did you check with the tribe to ensure that you are posting "approved" thoughts?

You can't handle the truth. What else could be expected? The "tribe" would not approve of your questioning such things. Ron, you ARE a practicing Socialist, with a capital S. As much as you refuse to see it, it is as plain as day to anyone with half a brain. You take money and services from the most socialistic programs that the government administers. You will collect far more in benefits that you put in to the system. No amount of weaselwording or denial can change that FACT. It is a FACT, not an opinion, or an assumption. You may not like the facts of the matter. Tough shit. If you claim to have a hatred of "socialism" it is the height of hypocrisy to use such programs. If you had the courage of your convictions, you would not take the benefits. Your convictions are firm, right up until there is a direct personal cost to you. Then, magically, the socialist benefits all of a sudden become something that you "earned". It would be laughable if it wasn't such an excellent example of the intellectual bankruptcy of "conservative" thinking.

If you find it a hassle to park a truck, you need to rethink your ability to drive, and work harder on your spacial relationship drills. Nice indirect PA. Thanks for playing. I think that the word you tried to use is "Spatial". I have been driving since I was 8. Started with go-carts and riding mowers. Learned to drive a stickshift VW Bug when I was 11. Was taught 2 and 4 wheel drifts by a neighbor, in a Jag XKE, when I was 13. That 850lb iron 6 makes it really hard to cleanly break into a four wheel drift. I learned to drive on the street in the greater Boston area. I lived in that area until I was 22. Driving in snow and ice develops one's skill in dealing with reduced traction conditions. When I moved to Cali, for a while I drove a 24' bobtail truck, delivering 4x8 plastic sheet all over the Bay area, including SF and Oakland. I now drive a car about 25,000 miles per year in my job. I have never been in an at fault accident. I have been hit once by a drunk driver (sideswiped in a parking lot at low speed), and I broadsided someone who ran a stop sign. I hit that car at under 10mph, even though I was doing 40 when they violated my right of way. I can get into any car, start driving, and judge distance down to 6" on the passenger and drivers side with ease. In other words, as far as driving skill, odds are that mine are far superior to yours. My Denali is a hassle to park due to parking spaces having gotten smaller as cars have gotten smaller, as have the lanes in most parking lots. Big truck, small space = tight spacing, which is a hassle. People freak out when you get within a foot of them while squeezing through the tight spaces. I find it quite annoying how bad most people's ability to judge spatial relationships is. Needing at least 3-4 feet on the right side to be able to make a turn on a red light is pathetic. The Volt is a pretty cool car. The fit and finish are in line with the price paid. I am happy that the government saw fit to invest in helping develop the technology. Money that was much better spent than the money spent (borrowed from China) on premeditated invasion and occupation, along with regime change, in the middle east. The conservatards who aren't happy about the Volt project would have been against NASA buying integrated circuits etched onto silicon for the space program in the sixties. Why spend that much money, just to save a little bit of weight... The 'tards would have opposed the government buying the first iterations of solar panels. The 'tards are now opposed to the government assisting any development of technologies that might, over the long term, help reduce the use of carbon based fuels. There has never been a positive change in society that came about due to the practical application of conservative political philosophy. Never. All of the positive changes have come from progressives. The 'tards are a drag on progress. Always have been, always will be.

One of my colleagues just got a really good deal on one. Nice car. He is saving about $12.00 per day in fuel costs for his commute. The savings will cover about 1/2 the car payment. Even a right wing conservatard should be able to understand that mathematical calculation. Pickup trucks are useful tools, if you need one. As a daily driver, not so much. They are a hassle to park, and use a lot more gas than most automobiles. I have a GMC Denali that I use for towing boats to lakes and the ocean. My daily driver is a company Scion XD. The correct tool for the job is the right way to go.