FLYJACK

SN is permanent on money.. and the Ingram's washed the money prior to the FBI getting the money for fingerprinting. Apparently they used Clorox which contains sodium chloride, it reacts with,,,, SN. But,, Let's look at the facts.. Tom Kaye found SN on the bills. An FBI agent told Tom SN was generally used for fingerprinting in the 1970's. The FBI never admitted to using SN on the Cooper bills and there was no record of it. Tom looked for evidence of blackened bills before the FBI got them and didn't find any. Therefore, Tom assumed the SN was from SN fingerprinting. The irregular and partial staining on some of the bills (like I posted above) in inconsistent with the SN fingerprint process. This and some other bills with irregular/partial staining pattern is inconsistent with the SN fingerprinting process. SN was an old school method for marking ransom money. It can be sprayed with a SN diluted solution which will stain the money over time with UV exposure. A covert method to mark money. If the FBI did mark the money with SN, that would be something they would hold back. Facts, there was darkened/blackened money mentioned by Brian and the Fazios prior to the FBI getting it for fingerprinting. Some of the staining patterns on the bills is consistent with SN marking and inconsistent with SN fingerprinting. SN fingerprinting was an assumption, the staining pattern on some of those bills is inconsistent with that,, where did the SN come from?? Marking the bills with SN is consistent,, is there any other explanation??

There is evidence that the SN was not from fingerprinting. It is possible, but it could have been from marking/spraying the money bundles with an SN solution prior to giving them to Cooper. These bills are inconsistent with SN fingerprinting.... partial/random staining..

If you want to track "Dan Cooper" and Albert Weinberg around Seattle google "Objectif Jumbo" for images or better yet pick up a cheap copy on EBAY... He even toured the Boeing plant... the Lake Tipsoo image (and another) were in a different Dan Cooper comic. The takeaway is... the French Canadian angle is not the only one.. Dan Cooper comics were published for Mexico in Spanish.. a more likely source for exposure, if at all, considering the legit Latin/Mexican descriptions of Cooper. Is that black figure in the back on the right (visual left) DB Cooper??

Well, I generally agree but the "partial" DNA is useless. 10-20% of the population. There needs to be a new test with new tech. The problem with getting the FBI info is.. they already have it and couldn't or wouldn't take a case to the DOJ for prosecution. Either they didn't have a strong enough case or the DOJ squashed it. I am Canadian so not entirely familiar with US Federal Prosecutions but my understanding is the FBI does the investigation then sends it to the DOJ for consideration, they decide on a prosecution. The DOJ can be pressured or influenced outside the strict application of the law.

Dan Cooper comic research…. I dug deep into the Dan Cooper comics and found some amazing things… Albert Weinberg was in Seattle and Florida in the mid 1960’s. He was researching stories for his comics.. his method was to draw from reality so he took many many pictures.. He did write a comic based around Seattle, not the well known L’AFFAIRE MINOS but it was OBJECTIF JUMBO that took place all around Seattle. There are many Seattle images in this comic. I also found an airplane that matched a real plane which belonged to an American pilot on the east coast. That plane was kept in Europe. I investigated that pilot and his circle for any possible connection to NORJAK but didn’t find anything. One idea was that the hijacker may have met Albert Weinberg while he was in the US researching his comic, I didn’t find anything there. But the most interesting thing I found was an image in another Dan Cooper comic of Lake Tipsoo in Wa State.. Albert Weinberg was there, took a photo and used it in one of his comics. Notice it matches Bruce’s Mountain News banner…. of Mt Rainier. Finally, I discovered that the Dan Cooper comics were published in many languages including Spanish. There was a Mexican/Spanish publication of the Dan Cooper comic.. Considering there was a legitimate hijacker Spanish/Mexico connection this may be significant. Conclusion, was the hijacker inspired by the Dan Cooper comic,, NO.. was he aware of them… maybe? Last two Comic page images are the Mexican/Spanish Dan Cooper comic edition from 1967.. The last image is Lake Tipsoo Wa... from another Dan Cooper comic.

Kaye found silver nitrate on the bills and assumed it was used for fingerprinting only because an FBI agent said it was in general use in the 70's, the FBI never admitted that it was used on TBAR bills, it is possible the SN was applied to mark the bills prior to being given to Cooper. Research shows that SN is not typically used on "wet" paper and rare in 1980. Kaye said around 14 partial DNA profiles.. Carr admitted in an interview that he knows nothing about DNA.. Mitochondrial DNA match is typically 10-20% of the population.

The Placard was not confirmed from Norjak, in fact the FBI walked back the Cowlitz Sheriff statements. It does not match the 727 internal ones. Eric ignores the evidence. It is possible, but unlikely. The wind is still a problem for Eric, they used a proxy.. Portland and Salem averaged over the 8-9PM hour. Winds closer to the LZ around 8PM were from the ESE to S. The winds at the LZ were a guess, NOT A FACT. The winds were shifting from ESE to SW... Again, Eric ignores the evidence. Ironic, Eric rejects the FBI flight path backed by multiple sources but accepts the wind by proxy. Finally, Eric repeats the classic error of logic.. not finding something in the LZ is not evidence that it is the wrong LZ. The FBI LZ is an assumption based on their inputs, IMO, it is close, if anything it may be spun around slightly based on a ESE to S wind.

TBAR bills... Tom Kaye examined 3 bills and concluded the holes were from bacteria and not insects. Tom is mostly correct, there is bacteria damage and no post deposit insect damage. However, he didn't look at all the bills and insect damage would have given the bacteria a path to the interior of the packets. There does appear to be insect damage to the bills. I searched for buried money images and none match the TBAR money, it does match insect damage plus buried. For there to be insect damage you'd need to find matching holes on bills in the same packet, I have done that. This gif fades from one bill to another and the holes match, the bills were probably not next to each other but from the same packet. Bacteria would not do this,, insect boring would. That suggests the money was stored someplace before deposited on TBAR, a dwelling perhaps. The damage resembles small termites or silverfish. My working theory is the money was hidden/stored in a "dwelling" became insect damaged and now an unusable liability it was discarded around 1978 ish ending up on TBAR. Somebody had control of the TBAR money for some time after NORJAK.. This is a fade between two different bills.

I don't need to do anything you suggest. You have avoided the question and thrown out some decoys flares... you claimed to know that the tie was produced before the funky "P" rollout, clearly you were um.. mistaken. The FBI asked a retail manager a general question about the tie, they got an uninformed general response. The Penny's employee was responding to the tie as a general representation, not the specific production timeframe. As we now know the tie can be dated within a range based on the labels. That makes the FBI Penny's investigation DOA and frankly a joke. The FBI missed this big time and screwed it up, their information is worse than useless it is wholly incorrect. Everybody thinks the tie was less than a couple years old.. 100% false. That specific tie was sold 1964-65. Later ties may have looked the same but would have had different labels. The Penny's employee would not know that. The opinion of Penny's employee without the tie manufacture "date" context is meaningless. 1966 plus the tie labels were different. Nov 24 1963 the funky "P" was first introduced for retail stores. That leaves a 1964-65 timeframe for the sale. That means about 6 years for the environment and particle exposure. If anybody needs critical thinking it is you.

The patent filing date does not = sale date. Hence, the tie sale date = 1964-65. get it. The logo was first introduced for retail stores Nov 24, 1963. Where is your proof that the new logo was used before that on the tie or any items.

The funky "P" was rolled out starting as the new retail store logo Nov 24 1963,,, the chance of that funky "P" getting incorporated onto the tie and sold in 1963 is virtually nil... your 1963 timeframe is debunked. The time frame for the tie was 1964-65.. not 1963. Evidence clearly indicates Cooper had aviation knowledge that doesn't mean he had to have worked for Boeing. If he couldn't get the airtairs open it wasn't a jail cell... at the time many hijackers were successful by going to Cuba, though I think it is self evident that Cooper was confident the airstairs could be opened in flight.

flight path.... Cooper didn't land on TBAR..

Clearly, the rubber bands were not intact.. your premise is false.. your conclusion self serving. Rubber band frags were attached and crumbled when picked up, an 8 yo kid couldn't determine if they were holding packets or bundles. There is no evidence that determines the location and extent of the rubber bands, just vague and general hearsay. The term "intact" is clearly false. The 3 packets were completely missing a large portion of the sides/edges. Were the brittle rubber bands hanging "intact" outside the perimeter of the deteriorated packets... hard to imagine. Were rubber bands attached to each of the three packets both top and bottom.. unlikely if 20 bills were missing/deteriorated. The bills did have holes created by bacteria, but some of the damage resembled insect damage. Kaye only examined three bills. If there were insect damage that would expose the interior to bacteria. Some have irregular and sharp cuts..

George is orange. but it isn't just skin tone,, witnesses described olive, swarthy, AND Latin/Mexican/Native American features/characteristics/descent... None mentioned a tan.. NONE

Brilliant… Cooper aka Sheridan had a skier’s tan in late November,, flew in from Tibet,, had a beard just before the hijacking,, changed the thickness/wave and colour of his hair,, wore brown contacts, faked chain smoking, ate fried peanut butter and banana sandwiches on the way to Portland.. while imagining daisy chaining the dummy chute before flying back to Switzerland to deposit loot in his numbered account. NO witness said a tan, they overwhelmingly described Latin/Mexican/Native American features/characteristics/descent,, that is not just skin tone.

Wrongo,, Cooper used two books of matches.. “He also wanted the empty matchbook cover from which he was lighting his cigarettes and had thrown into the back pouch of the seat in front as she said she would normally do with trash. She indicated that he had another book of matches the cover of which was blue and said, “Sky Chef.” from which she had pulled matches to light his cigarettes. He retained this book of matches.”

Sounds about right, it was SAILSHAW who pushed suspect Sheridan Peterson for many years... Eric hasn't added anything new other than speculation. https://www.dropzone.com/profile/95300-sailshaw/?do=content&type=forums_topic_post&change_section=1

Eric asks for qn's or comments but doesn't respond to anything that doesn't fit his highly speculative narrative. The "Sky Chef" matches might have come from one of their terminal restaurants, however, they were also supplying catering on various airlines. Sky Chef was owned by American Airlines... Cooper could have also obtained the matchbook during a flight serviced by "Sky Chef".

Individual witness statements can be off, things like height and weight. People are asked to recall so they estimate. In this case it is clear and consistent and overwhelming across all, Cooper didn't just have olive/swarthy colored skin but had Latin/Mexican/Native America characteristics, features, appearance and descent. That isn't an estimate. These characteristics are very hard to capture in sketches, they had to redo the well known inaccurate "Bing" sketch which unfortunately became the face of Cooper. This is the elephant in the room,, everybody is ignoring it.

Eric believes Cooper was Sheridan Peterson, he doesn't match. The ONLY known suspect that matches the description of Cooper is Hahneman. Honduran mother, German father. Cooper was olive, swarthy and latin in appearance, characteristics and descent, also described as possible Mexican or American-Indian. and don't give me the suntan in late November nonsense. FBI PART 11 P 1922 FOLLOWING COMPOSITE TAKEN FROM INTERVIEWS OF WITNESSES WHO WERE IN A POSITION TO SEE UNSUB. RACE, WHITE; SEX, MALE; AGE, MID FORTY'S; FIVE FT TEN TO SIX FT . , ONE HUNDRED SEVENTY TO ONE HUNDRED EIGHTY POUNDS, AVERAGE TO WELL BUILT, OLIVE COMPLEXION, LATIN APPEARANCE, MEDIUM SMOOTH COMPLEXION, DARK BROWN OR BLACK HAIR, NORMAL STYLE, PARTED ON LEFT, COMBED BACK; SIDEBURNS, LOW EAR LEVEL; EYES, POSSIBLY BROWN, FBI PART 11 P 1982 DESCRIBED AS WHITE, MALE, MID FORTIES, SEVENTY TO ONE EIGHTY, OLIVE COMPLEXION, OR BLACK HAIR, NORMAL STYLE, PARTED ON SMOKED RALEIGH CIGARETTES. FBI PART 11 P 2036 Mr. MILNES said the hijacker was described as white, male, American, olive complexion, Latin appearance, black hair, normal hair style parted on left, age middle forties, six feet tall, 170 to 175 pounds, average build, brown eyes. He was wearing a black suit, white shirt, narrow black tie, black rain-type overcoat, black dress suit, and was carrying a dark briefcase. FBI PART 11 P 2047 UNSUB described as white male, mid-forties, five ten to six feet, one seventy to one eighty, olive complexion, latin appearance, dark brown or black hair combed straight back in normal style, parted on left, smoked Raleigh cigarettes. FBI PART 11 P 2056 that he has average eyes, of Latin appearance, with a sort of disinterested look FBI PART 11 P 2224 WHITE, MALE, MID 40's, 5'1011 TO 611 , 170 Tel 180 lbs., AVERAGE TO WELL BUILT, OLIVE COMPLEXION, LATIN APPEARANCE, MEDIUM SMOOTH, DARK BROWN OR BLACK HAIR, NORMAL STYLE, PARTED ON LEFT, COMBED BACK, SIDEBURNS, LOW EAR LEVEL, POSSIBLY BROWN EYES, DURING LATTER PART OF FLIGHT PUTr DARK, WRAP-AROUND SUNGLASSES WITH DARK RIMS. LOW VOICE, SPOKE INTELLIGENTLY; NO PARTICULAR ACCENT, POSSIBLY FROM MIDWEST SECTION OF THE U.S., HEAVY SMOKER OF RALEIGH FILTER TIP CIGARETTES, WEARING BLACK OR BROWN SUIT; WHITE SHIRT; NARROW BLACK TIE; BLACK DRESS SUIT; FBI PART 11 P 1987 COMPLEXION: OLIVE, SWARTHY, THE LATIN TYPE FBI PART 11 P 1841 COMPLEXION: OLIVE, LATIN APPERANCE, MEDIUM SMOOTH FBI PART 18 P5497 RACE WHITE, SEX MALE, AGE MID FORTIES, HEIGHT FIVE FEET TEN INCHES TO SIX FEET, WEIGHT ONE HUNDRED SEVENTY TO ONE HUNDRED EIGHTY POUNDS, BUILD AVERAGE TO WELL BUILT, COMPLEXION OLIVE, LATIN APPEARANCE, MEDIUM SMOOTH; HAIR DARK BROWN OR BLACK, NORMAL STYLE, PARTED ON LEFT, COMBED BACK, SIDEBURNS, LOW EAR LEVEL; EYES POSSIBLY BROWN. FBI PART 26 P 8545 He was unable to determine from the photograph the complexion of ______ but again emphasized the hijacker had a swarthy or Latin type complexion and it appeared to him might have such a complexion. FBI PART 26 P 8574 OLIVE OR LATIN COMPLEXION· Key witnesses generally agree that unsub had an "olive or Latin" complexion.- One witness indicated a Mexican-American or possibly Indian complexion and characteristics. In addition, unsub expressed a desire to go "anywhere in Mexico”. FBI PART 26 P 8881 She thereafter remained in the cockpit where she prepared thirteen pages of notes concerning the hijacking and in which she described unsub as in his fifties. She later said he appeared to be of Latin descent. FBI PART 19 P 5934 "Enclosed is an artist's conception of the hijacker who extorted two hundred thousand dollars from Northwest Airlines on November 24, 1971. This man is described as follows: "Race-white; sex-male; age mid-forties; height-five feet ten inches to six feet; weight-170 to 180 pounds; build-average to well built; complexion olive, latin appearance, mediurn smooth; hair-dark brown or black; normal style, parted on left, combed back; sideburns, low ear level; eyes-possibly brown. FBI PART 10 P 1683 said that the man appeared to be Latin descent FBI PART 27 P 9104 To date 475 suspects have been developed based on appearance, as well as other features. Many of the suspects were developed because of their resemblance to the artist's composite of UNSUB. A great number of these suspects have turned out to be in their 20s or early 30s, with light or fair complexion. According to witnesses, UNSUB's age is in the mid-40s and his complexion is olive or Latin in appearance. The artist's composite clearly looks like a man in his late 20s or 30s and his complexion is difficult to determine from the black and white sketch. FBI PART 27 P 9390 In NORJAK case, witnesses describe subject's complexion as olive, Latin appearance, medium smooth. FBI PART 9 P 919 ALL OFFICES ARE TO BEAR IN MIND WHEN CAPTIONED CRIME WAS ON NOVEMBER 11, 1971, UNSUB AKA. B. COOPER WAS DESCRIBED AS BEING A WHITE MALE, 5 ' 10 " TO 6 ' 0 “ , 170 POUNDS, OLIVE AND LATIN APPEARANCE. FBI PART 27 P 9327 In view of the fact that unsub in this matter had a swarthy complexion and was tentatively identified by several witnesses as possibly having Mexican ancestry, the following lead is being set out: FBI PART 13 P 3159 which he feels more closely depicts the nose and cheeks of the unknown subject, whom he feels was of Mexican-American descent with possibly lndian blood. FBI PART 33 P 12115 indicated that the unsub's complexion was somewhat swarthy indicating that he might have possibly been an American Indian or Mexican American. FBI PART 26 P 8882 believed unsub was a Mexican-American. She had a short encounter with the unsub prior to her deplaning at Seattle FBI PART 29 P 10072 similar Mexican-type facial features FBI PART 11 P 2135 CHEEKS TOO FLAT, SHOULD BE MORE ROUNDED TO GIVE MEXICAN-AMERICAN APPEARANCE. FBI PART 28 P 9541 lacks the Mexican or Indian characteristics that ____ noted in the hijacker. FBI PART 28 P 9559 further advised that the hijacker definitely had some Indian or Mexican blood in him. He would guess about one quarter Indian or Mexican blood. FBI PART 28 P 10037 FACIAL FEATURES: Should reflect a Mexican or Indian ancestry FBI PART 11 P 2039 Race: Caucasian, believed to be of Mexican-American descent wih possibly some American Indian blood FBI PART 34 P 13102 In view of the fact that UNSUB in this matter is possibly of American Indian descent, the following leads are being set forth pursuant to referenced communication:

Here we go........................... Aviation Week Dec 6, 1965 ran an article on a 727 prototype testing for the military (727M)... including a ventral drop test. "Air drop tests with the 727 prototype indicate that loads up to 30 x 55 x 135 in could be dropped through the rear stairwell" Also mentioned in Flight Global March 4, 1965

Not exactly, Hahneman was identified because somebody, possibly a relative tipped off the FBI. The FBI didn't actually ID him. Once identified he turned himself in. He was actually home free in Honduras, he could have stayed there with no extradition even if identified but he voluntarily returned to the US. He got away with it but returned to protect his cousin... BTW, The pilot positively Id'd Richard Cain as the hijacker... he wasn't. Richard Cain (October 4, 1931 – December 20, 1973), also known as Richard Scalzitti, was a notoriously corrupt Chicago police officer and a close associate of Mafia boss Sam Giancana. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Cain

Hahneman flew via air taxi from New Jersey to Allentown, stayed in a hotel for 3 days using a false name then took a cab to the airport to hijack a 727 for ransom..

Simple, the Cowlitz sheriff was convinced the placard came from Cooper but the FBI wasn't and they had to walk it back.. This article plus the images/info I found convince me that it is very unlikely the placard came from Cooper. This is the crazy nature of this Cooper case, what at first seems to be a fact just isn't. Eugene Register-Guard Jan 19,1979 Decal’s link to hijacker discounted "SEATTLE (AP) - a heavy plastic placard found in a heavily forested area of southwest Washington could have dropped off any passing Boeing 727, not necessarily the plane skyjacked by the legendary D.B.Cooper, officials acknowledge. The FBI said Thursday the placard could have dropped from a plane during a re-enactment of the incident six weeks after the 1971 hijacking. Cowlitz County Sheriff Les Nelson said the placard was of the type posted next to the rear exits of 727’s and added, “It’s one in a million that any other plane could have lost it in the area in which D.B. Cooper jumped.” The FBI, however, said the placard, posted on the outside of the jetliner, could have dropped off almost any 727 that flew over southwest Washington during the past eight years. Ray Mathis, FBI spokesman in Seattle, said the hijacked plane was used in a simulation of the hijacking, and, “we noticed the decal was missing after that, but not before.” Those placards have been known to fall off on the runway,” added a Boeing spokesman. It was disclosed Wednesday that an elk hunter found the notice last November about 12 miles east of Kelso.The discovery was kept quiet while FBI and Cowlitz County sheriff’s detectives tried to verify the placard’s origin. A person identifying himself as D.B. Cooper hijacked a Northwest Orient plane Thanksgiving eve on a flight between Portland and Seattle. He received $200,000 and jumped from the plane. Authorities have seen neither Cooper nor the money since."

FOUND IT... I had it on my computer but forgot about it.. The 727 emergency aft airstair placard and door. This real image matches diagrams. The Hicks Placard is inconsistent with this 727 emergency release placard. Hicks placard looks too large and has the rivet/screw/fastener holes. The access door has none. If the placard was attached on the wall above the access door then pieces trapped under the rivet/screw/fasteners would have remained and been noticed. The placard looked too clean to be in the woods seven years. The emergency aft airstair release placard part number also references the 737, early 737's had side aft airstairs built in. Conclusion, unlikely the Hicks placard came from NORJAK. NORJAK 727 SN 18807 built 10/22/65 this image from 727 SN 18998 built 03/13/66