FLYJACK

some interesting info in FBI file #40..The FBI compared Rackstraw’s finger prints to NORJAK and it was negative. They then sought to obtain his palm prints and tested, they were also negative.. In other files there are references to test for finger prints but not palm prints.If the finger prints were negative, why test the palms..That suggests they are unsure they have Cooper’s prints and the palm prints and finger prints may be from different individuals. CLEARLY, not matching the fingerprints DOES NOT eliminate.Tina..This is fascinating, in 1978 the crew members were approached by somebody pushing Bryant Coffelt as Cooper for a script. They claimed to have FBI files and be working with the FBI. The FBI was concerned that the crew was going to give out “confidential” info..Tina was contacted by the person in Minnesota Nov 1976 and in San Diego Jan 1977.Tina kept a newspaper scrapbook and only discussed what was in the newspapers.Tina claimed she never discussed “confidential” information.Tina stated.. She only knows that there is _____________________ but does not know on which side. That sounds like a feature, on the face? and only on one side?.. a scar, mole, teeth, something?? Info held back??“Tina” was cautioned that any information she has is crucial to this investigation and that it should not be made public. This seems to address the "sexual" assault claim.. it didn't happen "Additionally, the hijacker did not make any overt or indicate gestures toward her or to any other stewardess to the best of her knowledge. She stated that she was sitting down during the entire flight and that the only time she stood up was when a passenger got up to use the bathroom. This would have been the only time or opportunity that the hijacker would have had to ______________. Additionally, she stated that during the entire flight, _________ was in the cockpit maintaining a log of the events and that she was the only stewardess in the aft of the plane with the hijacker."

FBI file #40 is out... Lots of info on Rackstraw near the end.. https://vault.fbi.gov/D-B-Cooper /d.b.-cooper-part-40-of-40/view

The western flight path is beyond dead. http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=20010315&slug=pilot15m 'D.B. Cooper' pilot dies; William Scott never talked much about 1971 skyjackingBy Susan Gilmore Seattle Times staff reporterFor 30 years, William "Scotty" Scott said little about the world's most famous skyjacking, shunning assorted authors and movie producers who came knocking at his door.Mr. Scott piloted the Northwest Orient Airlines jet hijacked by the infamous "D.B. Cooper" on Thanksgiving Eve 1971. He died of prostate cancer Sunday at his home in Green Valley, Ariz., taking to the grave much of what he knew about that fateful night, said his wife, Frances."When he came home that night," she said, "he told his family about it, and that was the end of it. He was a very quiet man. Very reserved."Only in recent years had he begun to talk about the skyjacking that perplexed the FBI and continues to rivet those who think Cooper may have survived the jump of 10,000 feet into the blackness of a storm over Southwest Washington.Her husband was convinced Cooper died in the leap, said Frances Scott. "He felt he jumped into Lake Merwin (Cowlitz County) and got tangled up in dead trees and died," she said.On the 25th anniversary of the heist, Mr. Scott spoke to a local pilots club; 200 people showed up, said his wife.

RE: Chutes.. This document describes the observation of two "olive drab green" back chutes. No bleepers? Then describes the two Hayden chutes with burp sacks.. #1 tan and #2 olive drab green. With burp sacks. That indicates four back chutes involved (before the two back chutes were sent to the plane)

Harrison notes confirm transcript... Cooper's initial demand was airstairs lowered in flight. Airstairs down on takeoff is a red herring, it came up during negotiations with the crew to get Tina off the plane.

credit to KERMIT... 1S is next to Crawford, it is NOT a typo = I5 Just more evidence confirming the "FBI" flight path..

Eric Ulis still fails basic logic and reasoning.. and claims everyone else is full of "it". We have gone over these things and Eric just ignores the facts that don't fit his narrative. He says.. "1) Nothing has ever been found in the FBI search area or along the FBI Flight Path as one would expect after 48 years.2) The placard was found WEST (upwind) of 305 according to the FBI Flight Path.3) The money was found on Tena Bar which is no where near the FBI search area or flight path.4) Captain Scott states the jet was 10 miles west of where the FBI was searching and he flew west of Portland.5) The FBI Flight Path appears erratic and includes some questionable turns, for example, the very sharp turn around the west end of PDX. In closing, one thing I can say with certainty is that the evidence doesn't lie. It cannot be wrong. The placard was found west of the FBI Flight Path, the money was found on Tena Bar, and nothing has been found in the FBI search area (or near it) after nearly 48 years." 1) Finding nothing in the flight path isn't evidence that the flight path is wrong. The jump time along the flight path is debatable. 2) The placard was not confirmed to be from NORJAK. Eric knows this, the FBI walked back the assertion from the Sheriff. Further, it doesn't match known 727 emergency placards and wasn't noticed missing in Reno when plane inspected. That placard coming from NORJAK is unlikely. But let's assume it was. Eric and Robert99 Nicholson persist in ignoring the facts and running with assumptions they both claim are facts. The SW wind was an estimate, the FBI admits that they averaged the winds from Salem and Portland over an hour to get SW wind as a proxy for the LZ, THEY ADMIT THIS. Portland and Salem are far from the placard find and using an average is imprecise. Data shows winds from Seattle, Portland (8:30) and Toledo were S.. (winds were shifting) The plane being on the "FBI" flight path and a S wind puts the placard exactly where it was found. A S WIND AT PLACARD FIND CONFIRMS THE FLIGHT PATH. The winds were shifting between SSE and SSW. To claim as a fact the winds at the placard find were SW is either intellectually dishonest or extremely ignorant. To then use the placard as evidence for a massive coverup and alternate fight path is ridiculous. A rational thinker would instead conclude that the wind direction estimate was slightly off (Placard) and that seems to be the case looking at all available data. What is more likely the wind estimate is off at the placard find or the crew, NWA, the FBI, the Air Force, Portland radar, the chase pilots and Boeing are all wrong and continue to engage in a cover up. A rational thinker would conclude that this has potential implications for the LZ, Cooper's drift may have been impacted by a S wind rather than the estimated SW wind.. 3) The TBAR money could have got to TBAR many ways that don't involve moving the flight path. Just because we don't know or can't prove how the money got there doesn't mean it couldn't have. 4) NORJAK did fly West of downtown Portland, the search area was expanded to the Columbia. 5) The flight path is plotted with a 0.5 mile error either side. Evidence doesn't lie, of course not but Eric has invented his own evidence by elevating assumptions to facts. The placard was not confirmed from NORJAK, the wind was just an estimate, an inaccurate remote proxy. Finally, absence of evidence (in flight path) is not evidence of absence (plane in flight path). The critical thinking and mental gymnastics here are self serving and amateurish. Challenging overwhelming facts with weak assumptions is poor reasoning at best, elevating assumptions to facts is intellectually dishonest. BTW,, I am all for challenging assumptions and even some facts but it is a heavy lift to move the flight path, weak assumptions here aren't even close. Eric has no facts here. His tell is that he ridiculed and attacked me when I pointed out that he is representing assumptions as facts, his narrative is not born from evidence it is the goal. He repeatedly ignores reality, he has to, it destroys his argument. Perhaps he is unaware of his own bias.. whatever,, the alternate flight path idea is dead and Eric is 98% confident Sheridan Peterson was Cooper no matter what. I am 100% confident Eric is wrong, he has no case, he has patched together old info with weak assumptions. His "research" is a joke. IMO

You have been falsely claiming Ammerman supported your you alternate flight path nonsense.. Now, you are forced to admit he accepts the FBI flight path and somehow others are dishonest. Dishonesty is claiming the wind direction is a fact, contrary to the FBI files and data. FACT. Dishonesty is claiming that the placard came from NORJAK is a fact, FBI walked back the Sheriff's claim. FACT. The flight path came from SAGE, you'd know that if you did something as simple as reading the FBI files.

EU wrote.. "I sent Cliff Ammerman a copy of the yellow FBI Flight Path map and asked him to review it and let me know if it looked right to him. He called me this morning about the map and said he “would not argue with this track.” In other words, that it may well be correct." Can we end the western flight path nonsense already.. Flight path came from SAGE..

The problem is the data for the identified "LZ" and placard find location for the 8 to 8:12PM time frame isn't available. The FBI estimated the wind using Portland and Salem average winds from 8-9.. Portland and Salem are too far away and using an average over an hour is too vague. Best data shows winds shifting between SSE to SSW...

The DB Cooper F-106 pilots were... Randy Plumb dec 1999 Harve Wallace ??

Wind in Seattle, SSE at 8PM... Averaged winds at Salem and Portland were used as a proxy for wind direction.. this is a guess for the LZ and Placard find location, it is not a fact. Salem, Portland and Seattle are too far from the LZ/Placard to have any confidence.

Even more corroboration for the "FBI" flight path...

The 11:30 PM store break location in was 3 miles South and 0.5 miles East from point A on the LZ map... it is getting close to the East Fork Lewis River..

They claim "military style".. probably based on the corrugated sole matching a footprint. There are/were slip on ankle boots/shoes with corrugated soles... I have an old pair of Doc Martins like that with "military style" corrugated soles but look like regular shoes. Also,, I received the big Penny's catalog and there are no men's ties in it. That suggests the tie was purchased in store 1964/5 not via mail order... If Cooper purchased the tie he was in the US at that time. There are lots of shoes/boots in the catalog,, I'll have to check those. It may be what is called a "service shoe/boot"

The initial search area came from NWA and the crew.. We are now expected to reject the corroboration from the crew, the air force, the chase pilots, Boeing, NWA and controllers to invent an alternate flight path to move the plane over Tina Bar to explain the money find.. nonsense. Nov 26. "The crew of the above airline has now spotted a possible area for this suspected departure of the hijacker to be over Merwin Lake, near Woodland, Washington. A search is now being conducted by helicopter and ground crews working out of the Woodland Police Department."

I never noticed this before,, "According to him a high wind was blowing at Merwin Dam last night. At about 11:30Pm there was a burglary of a grocery store located roughly 10 miles South of the dam. Survival rations were taken including beef jerky, cigarettes, gloves, etc. The person who broke in was wearing military type boots with a corregated sole." Average walking speed is 3.1 mph, if it was Cooper he could have walked 9-10 miles in the three hours between landing and the store break in. In other words, it matches the LZ south of Merwin.

The wind: Claiming the SSW wind was a fact and known is borderline insanity. The FBI admitted it was an estimate based on two assumptions. 1 - the wind at Portland and Salem was the same as the LZ and the Placard find location. 2 - the wind data was averaged over an hour. The wind at 8:30 at Portland was 180 deg S. The problems with the FBI assumptions are obvious, Portland and Salem are far from the LZ and Placard find so using it as a proxy is extremely unreliable. Winds change within miles. Averaging the winds over an hour is not reliable either, they can change within minutes. We don't have the wind data at the LZ or Placard find at the precise time so using SSW winds are a guess. Wind map variability. https://a.atmos.washington.edu/~ovens/wxloop.cgi?sfc_wa+24 Winds at Toledo at 8 PM were S. A South wind spins the LZ..

Flight path: Image from search HQ shows the "FBI" flight path on the wall.

Chutes,, Two back chutes observed were olive drab green.. Hayden's was tan.

1 We know the FBI has at least one chute, we don't know how many they have. 2 Hayden assumed Cooper used one of his chutes, so he only expected one returned. 3 There are FBI references to Cossey owning the chutes. Since the FBI info is contradictory that isn't a factor. 4 Cossey has claimed he had a chute returned, he thought it was the one left one the plane. Another possibility is that, in error, Cossey was given Hayden's chute that was left on the plane. That may explain his defensive behaviour. You have to look at this from Cossey's and Hayden's perspective, neither knew the other had also sent in back chutes so they both assumed the two chutes that went to the plane were theirs. 5 Cossey sent the chutes in by cab. Cops didn't go to his home. 6 Cossey did make conflicting statements but his statements are not necessary to show that the two Hayden chutes are accounted for and of the two back chutes described by the FBI, only one matches Hayden's. Cossey's statements here are actually irrelevant. 7 There is no extra trip by police. The fact is the packing card found in the back chute left on the plane doesn't match the packing card found in the back chute returned to Hayden but the packing dates match. That means Cooper did not take either of Hayden's chutes. I am not asking people to believe anything, the evidence is clear, Cooper did not use either of Hayden's back chutes. So, which chute did he use?? We can't prove he used Cossey's but there isn't really any other explanation. He didn't use Hayden's. The FBI refers to Cossey as the packer and sometimes owner. The FBI notes demonstrate confusion about the chutes. Hayden got back a 1957 S/N 226 matching the one Bruce saw. The card found in the back chute left on the plane shows a 1960 S/N 60-9707

You have this all mixed up, The two front chutes from Issaquah are irrelevant. You continue to conflate the front and back chutes.. even though I have explained it. Hayden's opinion is irrelevant. Cossey's opinion is irrelevant. They both made reasonable assumptions with the info they had, those assumptions are not facts. You are using Hayden's assumption as a fact. Last time.. Ignore the two front chutes from Issaquah. They went on the plane and there is no dispute with them. We are only concerned with the back chutes. Two similar back chutes were sent from Hayden. Both packed by Cossey the same date. 1) Packed by Cossey May 21/71 manufactured 1960 S/N 60-9707. This was left on the plane confirmed by card found in chute. 2) Packed by Cossey May 21/71 manufactured 1957 S/N 226. Confirmed by packing card. This was returned to Hayden then went to museum. If we have both of Hayden's chute accounted for then Cooper took another back chute. The FBI described the the chutes that went to the plane and only ONE matches Hayden's, the other is the NB6/8 that matches Cossey's chute. What happened,,, Hayden sent in two similar back chutes. Cossey sent in two back chutes from his home. (not the front ones) They grabbed one from Hayden and one of Cossey's and forwarded to the plane. This may have been intentional or a legitimate mix up?? Hayden's chute (S/N 60-9707) was left by Cooper and Cossey's NB6/8 was taken. The other Hayden chute (S/N 226) sent in but was not forwarded to the plane was returned to him. The other chute Cossey sent in but was not forwarded to the plane was returned to him. Once you get this then read Bruce's article everything makes sense.

You haven't grasped the subject. You have created a strawman. There is no contention Hayden is lying.

You seem to not have a full grasp of this.. read Bruce's article.. even Hayden wonders if they procured two back chutes from Cossey and his two. https://themountainnewswa.net/2011/10/25/db-cooper-case-heats-up-again-with-controversy-over-parachutes/

We aren't talking about the Issaquah front chutes. Both of Hayden's back chutes are accounted for, one was found on the plane and one was returned to him.. they aren't the same date or S/N. The packing dates matched as both were packed on the same date. That confirms they are both Hayden's. So, Cooper used another back chute,, Cossey's. He claimed he sent back chutes from his house.