FLYJACK

Memories fade.. In 1976 a stew, I think Flo Schaffner stated that after 5 years she could no longer identify Cooper from a photo..

Of course it does, Nix paraphrased Boeing in the newspaper.. that news quote didn't come from Boeing, it was from Nix. That is why I have been trying to get you to pin down Eric, you asked him a vague question and got a vague response.. First, it was near aft door, then for the two hole panel.. What exactly did Boeing say???

yes, he was old, the interview mixed in his experience with what he heard from others..

The NWO freight worker Loren Peterson said he put the money into a NWA flight bag with handles.. it may have been removed before it went onto the plane.

The problem is the use of the term "stairwell",, we think it is the inside wall but the FBI docs refer the actual airstairs as the stairwell.. "have been known to fall off under normal conditions" also refer to aft airstair as "door"

Did Boeing actually confirm this or did Eric exaggerate?? In other words, did Boeing ever communicate it was for "the two hole panel emergency system"?

That is an excellent question, I can't tell you publicly... both are Hahneman but different pictures.

Wrong.. the page posted is 1 page. Witnesses are in different locations, there is no evidence Hahneman was in that list... He is in this list... BOOM

No it isn't they have different dates.. those sequence numbers don't mean they are the same doc. It isn't the second page. There is only one page to it.

Hahneman was not in that list.. I found that the early sketch from his hijacking was shown to NORJAK witnesses who said it was "not identical" to Cooper.. what does that mean... it was a sketch. Even witnesses in his hijacking said the sketch was good but not perfect. In fact the pilot during the Hahneman hijacking positively identified the wrong guy.. But Hahneman's pictures vary, his weight swung greatly. I have pics of him that look like completely different people. His face ranged from fat to thin.. Years after Hahenman was known the FBI was still showing his pic to witnesses. He wasn't eliminated. I don't think Robert Gregory's positive id is any sort of smoking gun, it is one small piece of the puzzle.. and I have lots of pieces.

but why throw out the dummy reserve and not the other back chute?

That is what I said, none have fasteners. Why are you shouting and repeating what I said. We don't know what is behind the access door or the exterior access panel. Perhaps the decal was over some rivets and it tore in those places. Where is the rest of the decal.. and what was it originally attached to. A flat wall, can you pull a decal off a flat wall in one piece or did it tear and leave pieces.. Where are the missing pieces..

Why throw the non working reserve out the back??

That doc only states that the money was in packets of 100... other sources confirm and also claim they were then rubber banded into larger bundles.. I only posted the doc to confirm that 100 bills is called a "packet" by the Bank. Georger and FBI agent Larry Carr screwed this up years ago.. they contacted the bank guy and he said he rubber banded and randomized the bundles.. Carr stated here on DZ that the 3 TBAR money (packets) were random in count.... this was wrong. It took some time and I took endless attacks and ridicule for pointing out what is now obvious,, how could the money go to Cooper in packets of 100 and end up randomized on TBAR.. well it didn't.. FBI agent Carr and Georger conflated the term bundle with packet.. a bundle is an informal and general description, a packet is bank terminology for a group of 100 bills. The money went to Cooper in packets of 100, rubber banded into bundles. The 3 packets that landed on TBAR could have landed in a bundle. That eliminates the assumption that it had to land there in some container.. that changes the previous constraints on TBAR theories. Let's get this clear, a packet is 100 bills, $20 x 100 = $2000 packets are rubber banded into bundles.

Don't know, the odds change depending upon the precise location which is unknown. The (fastener) tear marks are inconsistent with any 727 stairway decal.. if it was on the wall there would have been a remnant of the decal left. Logic based on all known info,, either it didn't come from 305 on that night or the FBI is lying about it and they know it did. The FBI had more info that we do and they said it could have come from any passing 727.. Let's assume it did come from 305.. what then.. Eric has concluded its location proves based on wind that there was a western flightpath and the pilots, Northwest, chase pilots, military radar, Boeing and controllers are all wrong. A simple and more rational explanation would be that the wind at that location was from the South. The FBI admits the wind was an estimate based on Portland and Salem averaged over an hour timespan. Far from the placard location. Seattle wind was from the South, Toledo was from the South... The fact is, we don't know the wind direction at the placard location and we do know that it was shifting in the area around that time from SSE to SSW.. That means the estimate for the wind at the Cooper LZ may have been wrong. If the wind was S he would have drifted back along the flightpath.

I have filled in this redacted FBI document and it I am 99% it is correct.. It is a Hahneman document but the witness ID was a bit of work.. the type is uniform so everything comes down to letter count. Robert Gregory is the only witness that fits, he is also the one that described Cooper as having Marcelled hair. Normally, the names of Cooper suspects who have died are not redacted, Hahneman's name is redacted throughout even though he died almost 30 years ago. I believe they have redacted his name because he was never eliminated. The FBI had Hahneman's passport image on June 1... I have many photos of Hahneman and he does look quite different in the face as his weight fluctuated. He also had a turkey neck. Hahneman did have curly/marcelled hair, he was swarthy and latin in appearance.

My boycott is personal, I don't expect it to have any impact on them. I have also boycotted Nike, Starbucks, Facebook and others.. there are some I avoid as much as possible but can't entirely eliminate like Google and Amazon. I refuse to participate/support certain entities. I was a football fan, played in a recreational football league for years. It just doesn't interest me to support entities that I disagree with. Frankly, I don't miss them. It is way off topic, so I can swing this back to Cooper, and football... for bonus Cooper points. The Vancouver letter claimed Cooper went to the CFL Grey Cup final here, actually local to me, I have been to that stadium. The letter can't be confirmed from Cooper, it may be a hoax but it may be legit. This a video of the game.. there are a few pans of the crowd,, I looked for suspects but didn't notice anyone.. Ironically, the half time show is skydivers in dark suits. Do you have a suspect in that crowd???

I have boycotted the NFL... Interesting Cooper original description..

McCoy money packets were bank banded.. where did that ransom money come from? Packets = 100 bills per..

that is right the fabric panels were torn.. We can't get anywhere until we 100% confirm the exact location of that decal.

yes, there are only really two possibilities.. Cooper used the emergency systems and the FBI knew it and held it back. or The placard could have come from any plane.. Years ago with less info I thought that Cooper may have had trouble with the main control lever,, you push from raise detent to lower detent.. but on the 727-100 you have to press a button on the top off the handle for it to move.. if he didn't he couldn't use the main control. He would then have pulled off the outer emergency release cover then inner then pulled the red handle.. This would have been known. Two things support that but don't confirm it. Minor panel damage.. and no part that large was missing... was a small part missing?

The FBI's public statements are crucial.. How could they claim that placard could have come from any passing 727 and the ground crew claimed they fall off in normal operation. Either, they were correct or they were lying and knew Cooper pulled the emergency system removing both panels.

Sure they will be specific, but was the exact position understood and communicated accurately.

The lack of official documentation isn't a big deal.. it was chaotic, chutes arrived by cab, the receivers didn't know who they belonged to or care. They end up with 4 back chutes at the staging area and send two to the plane. The FBI mixed up the chutes and lost track of which was which. They don't want to admit that later. The chute left in plane does not match the one returned to Hayden, this is the only explanation. This doc implies there were 4 back chutes... 2 back chutes which he observed,,, LATER,, 2 back chutes were delivered..