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One of the most irresponsible and dishonest Cooper characters continues to undermine the advancement of this case by lying.. to discredit others. I wrote "some of the particles may have been picked up in the plane if Cooper used the tie to wipe prints from surfaces" NOT "So, he says, particles on the tie probably all came from the plane" Never, ever trust anything this guy says..

The tie: There are semi horizontal lines (as worn) of "particles" on the tie... These aren't random but suggest a sideways wiping... it looks consistent with Cooper using the tie to wipe prints from the plane. Most of the particles were used in the 727 (inc CP TI), some of the particles may have been picked up in the plane if Cooper used the tie to wipe prints from surfaces. I can't see how you would get those "line" patterns so high above the tie "clip/pin/tack" on the tie during normal wearing/use. Those lines look like a series of rub/wipes.. at a similar semi-horizontal angle.. and none vertical..

Drops by gravity, wind held them up but Cooper's weight helped push them down. When Cooper jumped the wind pushed them back up.

RE: Walter Reca.. flight path obviously makes this theory nonsense. But, I found something else interesting.. In an August 2008 FBI agent Larry Carr gave an interview with Steve Rinehart of K-Talk Salt Lake City. A caller named "Carl" called in and asked some interesting questions. That caller Carl sounds exactly like Carl Lauren, video below. Carl's evidence for Reca was audio tapes with Reca in 2008/2009 exactly when he was "researching" the case. Note the questions?? Carl is formulating a narrative.. if he had been discussing RECA as Cooper for many years, why did he get so much wrong in 2008, because RECA was not Cooper and Carl was shaping the narrative in 2008. @ 22:25 voice in audio, transcript below http://www.washingtonhistory.org/collections/item.aspx?irn=121232&record=40 SR: We have some callers. I want to continue asking you questions of my own, but let’s try to fit a couple of them in here, as we go. LC: Sure. SR: We got Carl on the Salt Lake county line. Carl, you’re on the air with Agent Carr. Carl: Yeah, hi. The FBI put on the newspapers the composite drawings. Now, are these pretty accurate in terms of the people who actually came in contact with the hijacker? LC: Yeah, you know everyone that came in contact with that gentleman in the interview with a sketch artist. They went about their process, developing all of the parameters of the individual’s face. They went back and constructed these sketches and then they were sent back out to the field. Each person looked them over. The three stewardesses involved looked them over, and there were some changes made to the original one. Once the stewardesses gave the thumbs up that this is the best representation, and that’s what was put out to the public. Carl: Okay, and then these thousands of suspects you developed, did they fit the basic description then? LC: Well, you know, a lot of them were ruled out basically on the physical descriptors of who D.B. Cooper was. Not necessarily the sketch, but basically the physical parameters; the dark complexion, or the olive skin complexion. Well, if your suspect’s fair skinned, and even if they weren’t solely ruled out on that, that’s one tick. Yeah okay, I guess if this person, if they were 5’7, as opposed to what was reported as 5’10 to 6’1, there’s another tick, that hey maybe this isn’t the right person. If they had blue eyes... Well, we’re pretty sure D.B. Cooper had brown eyes. So, you know, rule that off. Yeah, you know, a lot of the suspects were ruled because they didn’t fit the physical criteria. Carl: Yeah, I mean, since the FBI, they have this belief that the man may’ve been killed in the jump or when he hit the ground. Did the FBI conduct a search among the missing person reports? LC: Well you look at the databases back then, you know, long before the time of the computer, it was easier to connect the dots as far as missing persons go. So there was, of course, an effort at the missing persons database, but it just simply didn’t really exist back in that point of time. You know, it would’ve individual sheriff departments that would’ve collected the data, and someone had to do that. I couldn’t even guess how many sheriff’s departments there are in the United States, but I would imagine is was well into the thousands. Carl: Yeah, you know, is it possible when the hijacker got on the plane he would’ve changed his appearance? Like wearing a wig or maybe wearing these thick soled shoes so, you know, it’d make it appear that he might be taller, or maybe colored his hair a different color. Is that at all possible? LC: All that is possible, but when you look at how much time, especially Tina Mucklow, spent, the hijacker, shoulder-to-shoulder with him... You know, you can try these experiments yourself. Go ahead and put some makeup on your skin, if you’re fair skinned, and put enough on to swarthy, and then have someone sit next to you. You’re going to see that makeup, it’s going to be pancaked on to you. Same thing with a wig, it looked very unnatural, especially during 1971. So if someone’s wearing a wig, it’s going to be very noticeable. Carl: What seat was he sitting in before he, you know, hijacked the plane? LC: He was sitting in the very back, and I don’t have the file in front of me so... Carl: Was he sitting next to somebody else with whom he had a conversation? LC: No, he was sitting all by himself in a row of three. And, you know, ultimately, "Flow Chapner" sat by him originally, and Tina Mucklow the rest of the flight. Carl: What type of firearm did he have? LC: No firearm. SR: And a grenade. LC: No grenade. He had opened up his briefcase and there was either dynamite or road flares in there. Carl: Yeah, well interesting case. I wish you good luck Agent Carr. SR: Carl, thanks for the call. We appreciate it. Carl: Yeah, thank you. Goodbye.

Georger fails to recognize that his own statements are in conflict,,, Other evidence is consistent. It is really irrelevant and the nature of the "sleuthing" process... Ammerman was clearly ARTCC. The real take away is that a team was watching and directing the chase planes from Seattle Center and an alternate flight path is implausible unless there was a massive conspiracy and coverup which knowingly caused all the resources to search the wrong area. The alternate flight path is beyond DEAD. It is a joke.

A headwind helps keep a plane up....

That is the problem,, there is no wind data for the "LZ" location at exactly 8:09-8:13... the wind data the FBI used to estimate was from far away and AVERAGED over an hour time period. Winds can vary within miles or minutes.. The FBI wind has always been treated as a fact.. it isn't. It is just an estimate, a weak one. All available data showed wind direction consistent at all levels but increasing speeds at altitude and shifting from SSE to SSW.. close to 8 PM. Fact is, the wind data the FBI used was an estimate based on Portland and Salem, they admit that in the files. 60-110 miles away?? That is ridiculous. The wind in Seattle was SSE.. Toledo S.. If that FBI estimate was wrong and the wind was actually 160-170 degrees at jump time/location, they got the parachute drift direction wrong and initially searched the wrong area. With 160-170 degree winds the LZ "cone" would be back along the flight path and slightly west.

80 knots was at 14,000 ft not 10,000 ft... He estimated 65 knots at 10,000 ft.. 35 knots surface. However, the estimated wind speed is not the point.. the wind direction is far more significant. The nearby data indicates the wind was shifting from SSE to SSW around 8 PM... that is consistent with 160 to 170 degree wind. Since, the FBI admits the wind direction was an estimate.. if the winds were 160-170 degrees they got LZ and initial search area wrong.

TRACON was in the Tower in 1971.... Ammerman's interview in Matheson's book names Seattle Center.. matches the transcripts. Georger's SEATAC account is incorrect or inaccurate.

The wind direction is the take away, at all elevations and estimated speeds. BTW,,, I have always wondered how that would effect the flight timing and location/jump time.. if the winds were about 160-170 degrees.. Parachute drift would be back along flight path/slightly west.. That would put the LZ mostly outside the initial search area.. the orange zone would be spun to about 11 o'clock.

Continental pilot 4 minutes behind 305 reported two important things... The plane was on V-23... > no alternate flight path. and The wind was 160-170 degrees, that is exactly what I have been saying. The FBI wind data was an estimate based on an average between Eugene and Portland and over an hour timeframe... A 160-170 degree wind would put the Placard exactly where it was found if 305 was on the FBI path.. (if the Placard even came from 305) The plane was flying at 166 degrees straight into the wind. The takeaway is Cooper may have landed slightly West of the flight path. EDIT: Follow up investigation suggests he may have been just in front of Norjak.

EU, Eric Ulis falsely claimed Emrich fingered Sheridan, it was Bill Whitney not Sheridan. It was just Emrich's opinion, but the FBI did look at Whitney in 1971. "Bill Whitney" posted on mountain news.. re: Cossey https://themountainnewswa.net/2013/04/27/the-hunt-for-db-cooper-earl-cossey-feared-dead-in-woodinville-homicide/

Bill Mitchell WSHS interview full audio and transcript.. link http://www.washingtonhistory.org/collections/item.aspx?irn=122559

A few interesting claims??? ( IMO, McCoy wasn't Cooper) Seattle FBI made mistakes,, never collected mags and other articles for prints. Cooper (and McCoy) used aviation flight plans for notes.. WHAT? Tina saw Cooper remove tie. Cooper offered packets of money to each STEW, Tosaw also said this. Cooper yellow stains on fingers.

"I watched him land and that back door of that airplane was dragging on the runway and shooting sparks like—you know when you put a knife on the grinder?!It looked like the sparks was going 50 feet in the air! It’s dark, and we probably…. got up there about somewhere around 6 o’clock—it was VFR, it was great—a clear night and we could see other airplanes … and there were a couple F-106s out of McChord, they came down and were available for a while, then they went back. And we asked Maj Gene Winchester ‘What are our instructions?’ They said ‘Well, we don’t know if he’s still on the airplane, or if he went out the back door when it stopped, he might be here, we ‘re going to make a cordon, a perimeter off, and do a ground search… And you go over there and get out of the way and fill up ’cause we think he might be going to Mexico; you might be following him to Mexico And I thought ‘That sounds interesting!’ So we sit over there for, I don’t know, several hours. And then they called us and said ‘you could go home’. We got back here about 7:00 a.m., Jack and I.”1 Winchester had no direct radio contact with the airline crew, only with FAA Controllers. In the darkness and following in-trail at a safe distance, they never saw Cooper leave the airliner. “" There it is, even more corroboration, the chase planes were in contact with the Controllers.. Alternate flight path has left the building....

Another Eric Ulis unverified claim looks to be imploding... EU (Eric Ulis) wrote.. (and has stated many times) "Also, it's worth mentioning again, Linn Emrich is the guy who fingered Sheridan as Cooper to the FBI. Sheridan is the guy that Linn is referring to in the 1971 Issaquah Press article that has recently been posted on this site. Linn hadn't seen Sheridan for 6 1/2 years at this point." Lynn, a member at Shutter's site... has documents which indicate... Linn Emrich named a Willard Whitney as a suspect.... Emrich never mentioned Sheridan Peterson in that article. Lynn wrote.. "Well, this is a new one on me. Have been in touch with someone close to Linn Emrich. Apparently Linn kept a journal of his observations on the Cooper case, and while I'm having some trouble reading the pages sent to me online, I'm going to try to sharpen them so I can read them. He names a suspect called Willard Whitney at one point, which is a new one on me." Some good stuff from Lynn and from Shutter recently... Georger not so much..

The description of the Seattle Center ARTCC actions are corroborated by FBI files, transcripts, Himmelsbach and also Gray's book.. Seattle Center controlled the flight from Seattle to the California/Oregon border. The Seattle team was... ARTCC R2 ARTCC R5 ARTCC R6 ARTCC R10 The chase planes were co-ordinated by Seattle Center. They were in contact with the chase pilots. Seattle Center must have known the 305 flight path to do this. The dashes in the transcript may be the deleted ARTCC comms with chase planes. Putting together all the pieces, there is no way there was an alternate western flight path. The western flight path theory is DEAD and should be relegated to the Vortex dust bin.

Seattle Center was tracking the 727 and directing the F106's to trail at 5 miles.. No way they got the flight path wrong..

The FBI report is NOT clear. If you read it very carefully it says that Hayden furnished two back chutes to NorthWest Airlines but it skillfully stops short of claiming both those chutes went to the hijacker. It says both of the chest pack chutes were furnished to the hijacker. That is completely consistent with Hayden getting back a chute he sent to NorthWest that wasn't forwarded to the plane. The packing card/SN did not match. Where does it confirm both of Hayden's chutes went to the hijacker??

In 1976 Cossey claimed to get the back chute Cooper left in the plane... Hayden also claimed to get the chute left in the plane,, but it doesn't match the packing card description/SN noted by the FBI.

Eric's Cooper Con and vids were done to promote himself and sell his mostly stolen and extremely speculative Sheridan narrative to a production company.. He isn't interested in facts or truth, he is goal seeking. He used the Cooper community to steal work, gain cred and patch together a bogus narrative to sell. Anybody thinking of getting involved should do their homework on Eric and the Cooper case before wasting time and money..

You don't respond to facts which contradict your fantasy narrative..

I have done more analysis on the tie. Based on several variables I've identified it was manufactured early 1964 to very late 1964.. It was likely sold early/mid 1964 - early 1965. It was NOT 1963. Oddly, the FBI docs had claimed the tie was only 1-2 years old based on talking to a Pennys manager. The FBI docs aren't facts, they are investigative "notes". But, the tie had 6-7 years to collect those particles and there may have been several environments that contributed..

Ok, complete garbage.. grasshoppers? seriously. You are using an exaggeration and fabrication to dismiss evidence you don't like... A LIE. This is an example of why you have zero cred in the Cooper case, IMO. The bill you have is very uniform, not all bills are as uniform. Other bills have very different characteristics. First, you can't really compare 1980 bills to the earlier series. Try it with the same series to be accurate. You claim the outside 75% was eaten by organisms. Nonsense. The outside deteriorated due to the wet dry cycling and abrasives. Some bills have matching bore holes going through the packet, not from the edges. Those holes are consistent with termites, your mockery and red herring BS is ignorant or intellectually corrupt. What it does point out is that the notion that the rubber bands were "intact" is ridiculous. It is more likely there were brittle rubber band frags stuck to the top/bottom bills, Tosaw claimed only the two full packets had rubber bands the one missing some bills didn't. ?? The evidence suggests there were several factors causing deterioration.. wet/dry cycles, abrasion, bacteria and possibly insects.. The real problem with your naive "educated analysis" is that you conclude the money had to be buried by human intervention. There is no evidence from that bill or any bill that supports this.

Found something interesting.. A 727 pilot Ziad Afra had an incident taking off in Rome.. The rear airstairs weren't locked up and there was no light in the cockpit to indicate.. the stairs fell down and dragged on take off. He continued and took off with sparks flying. They pulled the door up and locked in flight and it had melted away half an inch of the airstair. This occurred sometime after 1970, but I can't find the date or any record. There is no date or airline mentioned.. trying to determine if it was pre or post Norjak. Ziad Afra was a pilot from 1960-1990.