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Unfortunately, Georger still has the timeline wrong. Cooper did NOT attempt to tip when he actually got his drink and the change. Flo discussed the drink, payment and return of change to Cooper, she never mentioned a tip attempted or otherwise. Flo recalled events in chronological order, she mentioned that Cooper tried to offer money from the drink change to ALL stews after Flo handled the bag of money. Tina claimed at one time Cooper tried to give money from his pockets to ALL the stews. "He opened the bag and inspected the contents which Miss MUCKLOW said she observed was money packed in small packages with bank-type bands around each package. Having inspected the money in a cursory fashion, the hijacker stated that “it looked okay” and then indicated to Miss MUCKLOW that the crew could now permit the passengers to deplane. She stated that she called the cockpit on the intercom with this message and an announcement was made from the cockpit that passengers at that time could disembark. Miss MUCKLOW recalled that she, in attempt to be humorous, stated to the hijacker while the passengers were unloading that there was obviously alot of money in the bag she wondered if she could have some. The hijacker immediately agreed with her suggestion and took one package of the money, denominations unrecalled by Miss MUCKLOW, and handed it to her. She returned the money, stating to the hijacker that she was not permitted to accept gratuities or words to that effect. In this connection Miss MUCKLOW recalled that at one time during the flight the hijacker had pulled some single bills from his pocket and attempted to tip all the girls on the crew. Again they declined in compliance with company policy." The point here is that these stories are both incompatible and unbelievable. Cooper did NOT attempt a tip when he actually got his drink and the change. (At terminal) Flo indicated the attempted tip was after the money was delivered. Why would Cooper tip all the stews later from drink change? $6 each?? It is hard to believe Tina would ask for ransom money, take it then hand it back claiming they can't accept gratuities.. Ransom money isn't a gratuity and she asked for it. One or both of these stories is false... they are incompatible. The theory is the tip refusal stories were an embellishment to cover for Cooper offering them all money and one or more of them may have taken it.

The three packets were in one rubber banded bundle.. "It's all from one bundle" said John Pringle "There is certain information only known to the hijacker"

This is the timeline from the FBI files... which nobody seems to have researched. Tina asked for some ransom money, Cooper gave her some, she took it then returned it claiming that they aren't allowed gratuities and she used the refusal of the drink money tip as confirmation. Tina's story sounds bogus, ransom money isn't a gratuity. She asked for some, took it and the drink tip incident came later. While Tina was getting the chutes, Cooper even asked Flo to lift the money bag. The FBI files only document the stews stories, the FBI doesn't know if they were true or not. Is it reasonable to believe that after Cooper handed some ransom money to Tina and offered some to the other Stews that with $200,000 ransom money in his possession while preparing to don a parachute, giddy with excitement he reached into his pocket and offered the $18 drink change from hours earlier to the stews.. $6 each?? I think the story is BS, somebody is hiding something. Tina version Tina brought money to Cooper. Cooper inspected it. “bank type bands” Cooper let passengers go. Tina asked or some money. Cooper gave her some, she returned it claiming against company policy and noting that Cooper tried to give all stews a tip from drink change and they declined. Passengers deplaned. Tina went out for parachutes. Cooper asked Tina to lower shades after first parachute brought on. Tina’s last trip was a large parachute, Cooper looks them over and all stews were still on board. Schaffner version All passengers deboarded the plane. She, Tina and Alice talked to Cooper. Cooper asked Tina to go get parachutes. Cooper asked Flo to lift money bag. Cooper offered the stews money, change from the $20 for a drink. She refused the tip. Cooper bagan putting on parachute. She and Alice went to exit the plane, Tina went to the rear. She returned to get her purse.

I rank the "plant to be found" theory very low as finding it would have been extremely unlikely. If somebody wanted it found they would do it in a way that assured discovery. My top three TBAR theories in no particular order.. The money washed down the Lewis to the Columbia, the massive 1976/77 dredge/barge operation across the river on Sauvie brought the money in material upstream by barge. Erosion caused it to come loose and deposit across the river on TBAR. The TBAR money was the money offered to the stews. Discarded later. The money was dropped and hung on the stairs to work loose and drop over the Columbia River upstream of TBAR. The stairs are only slightly open with no weight on them. One of the 3 packets was missing 20 bills, either they deteriorated/separated and were not discovered at TBAR or somebody removed them between the hijacking and deposit on TBAR. If so, this supports the theory that somebody had possession of the packets after the hijacking, perhaps those 20 bills were spent.. I wish we could get the original ransom list "in order".

There is more evidence to support this theory... Tina moved to within a few miles of the Columbia River just upstream of TBAR in the late 1970's..

me too, originally, but not so,, I carefully went through the timeline from the witnesses in the FBI files and matched the stories up,, This was hours after the drink change was given back to Cooper. and the claim of Cooper tipping from pockets occurred after the money was on board and after Tina was given ransom money and claimed she returned it,, that is one reason I believe it is a made up story, an embellishment, a virtue signal. Only Cooper and the stews really know what happened. Anybody really think Cooper is going to tip 3 stews from $18 when he has $200,000 and already gave some to Tina. One TBAR theory is that one or more of the Stews kept some ransom money and discarded it later.. it never left the plane with Cooper.

but Tina confirmed she asked for and rec'd ransom money, she claimed she gave it back,, and in one of the books Cooper offered money to the other stews as well. I don't believe the tip story. It doesn't make sense or fit the timeline when you carefully line up all the Stew's stories. Cooper had his drink hours before and received change, no tip then. After he receives the ransom he hands ransom money to Tina, she returned it using the no tip allowed excuse but the time Cooper tried to tip the stew's came later. Cooper has $200,000 and tries to tip 3 the stew's change from a $20 after he gave ransom money to Tina,, no way. In one of the Cooper books, Cooper offered the other stew's ransom money as well. IMO, the tip story is bogus… At 14:29 in video, Cooper offered ransom money to EACH stew.. 3 stews and 3 packets found on TBAR?

The flightpath is solid, to reject it for an alternative requires the NORJAK crew, NWA, Boeing, the Air Force, flight controllers and chase pilots to all be collectively wrong and to cover it up. There weren't three bundles found on TBAR.. There were 3 packets.. of 100 bills (one was missing some) Cooper received randomize sized bundles of packets (100 bills).. The three packets found on TBAR went to Cooper in a bundle. The argument that the three packets landed independently and must have been in a container is not valid and an error. The 3 packets of money most likely came from ONE bundle. With that, there are many theories for the money arriving at TBAR as one bundle. I have several theories,, my favourite one is that the TBAR money was the money offered to the stews.. as we know it was separated from the money bag. But, it may as simple as Cooper dropping a bundle on the stairs and it fell off over the Columbia after he jumped.

yup, I meant close to Portland..

Cooper first indicted Mexico,, (non stop US) but during negotiation crew suggested San Francisco hijacker suggested Phoenix then the crew suggested Yuma or Reno.. (Eric Ulis will have to delete that part of his book claiming Cooper had connections to Yuma) Cooper chose Reno... This is crucial,, Cooper did not plan Reno or landing in US, he did not suggest Yuma. His initial plan was changed and that may have altered his planned jump..

Briefcase appeared to be new... Where was the bomb assembled? Likely close by, a hotel/motel? he wouldn't have flown/travelled with it to Seattle..

FBI calculated the closing of the stairs after Cooper jumped caused oscillation at 8:11, Cooper jumped just prior.

NEW.. FBI Cooper file #41.. https://vault.fbi.gov/D-B-Cooper /d.b.-cooper-part-41-of-41/view

to reiterate... The FBI walked back the Sheriff's claim that the placard came from Norjak.. and the image of the optional emergency airstair placard does NOT match the hicks placard.

More Placard evidence.. I found a better image of the "placard",, also a pic of the 727 control panel Boeing decals. The letters DO NOT not match the Boeing era font, note the "C" (more open), the "A" (sharp top) and the E (mid line length). The Placard has a different/newer font. The font does not match Boeing 727 external decals either. Conclusion,, based on this and the other facts it is extremely unlikely the "placard" came from NORJAK.

Found an old Pennys ad.. Towncraft Snapper ties $1.50 and ASSORTED TIE TACK and CUFF LINK SETS $5.00...

The tie,,, The FBI had claimed the Cooper tie was a few years old based on a conversation with a Pennys manager.. This was incorrect. They never researched the labels. The labels changed over the years though the tie may have appeared the same. A while back I noticed the patent labels could be used to date the tie. The patent label dates it to the end of 1964 as it changed after that. The Pennys logo funky "P" found on the tie was first introduced ironically on Nov 24 1963. Eric Ulis claims he figured this out and Sheridan bought the tie in 1963.. this is 100% false. He didn't figure it out but importantly it was not 1963 for two reasons. The funky "P" was first introduced Nov 24 1963 for store logos. Second, there is another indication on the tie that it was produced in 1964 which I'll keep secret for now.. Conclusion,, The tie was produced from early 1964 to late 1964, could have been sold from early 1964 to early 1965. The FBI claim that the tie was a few years old is wrong, it was about 6/7 years old in 1971 and that changes the timeframe, the particle deposit environment and potential ownership trail.

From the Washington History Museum http://www.washingtonhistory.org/collections/item.aspx?irn=122502&record=59 http://www.washingtonhistory.org/collections/item.aspx?irn=122503&record=60 http://www.washingtonhistory.org/collections/item.aspx?irn=122504&record=61

This myth will never die.. Cooper did not initially request airstairs down on takeoff.. He had NO special knowledge.. he lacked knowledge. The crew (incorrectly) suggested locked partially open on takeoff He thought the crew controlled the airstairs and wanted them "unlocked" after the crew suggestion. He always wanted Tina to lower/operate in flight. Conclusion, Cooper did not have special airstair knowledge/experience. Cooper did not want to jump ASAP. Cooper wanted Tina to lower in flight and he (incorrectly) wanted them unlocked (1 deg) by the pilots. He incorrectly believed they could lock him in. The confusion comes from two things, he demanded rear cabin door open on takeoff and later at one point he wanted airstair "unlocked", not extended. This corroborates the transcripts but nails the exact time.

Well, I do find it very odd.. a body would be the highest level of importance, above a chute or money. It would ID a person and confirm the FBI claims. Starting in 1972 the FBI started pushing the died in the jump narrative. A "body" should have been in that FBI statement with "chute" and "money", why it wasn't is speculation.

What is the difference between finding a chute in the woods or a body in this context. Both would be extremely significant, both would be investigated.

You would still need something other than money or a chute... to solve it to a legal standard. The FBI statement is still strange, finding a body in the woods would be extremely valuable. To say "money or the chute" and not body suggests that they think Cooper survived.

Anyone else notice that when the FBI closed the case "administratively" the only evidence they would consider was, "the parachute or the money". What is missing? The body... Did they tip their hand? Why not mention the body, unless you knew Cooper survived the jump.

Darren, That was an excellent listen. Though the author's primary premise is wrong, when you read through the descriptions and sketch adjustments, the bing sketch was poor and the final sketch "B" was much more accurate. "Cooper" being inspired, planning and pulling off his hijack 2 just weeks after Cini is a big ask. People don't realize that although Cini was Canadian, he was in the US military. He had ealtives in NJ that he lived with for a time. Could he have crossed paths with Cooper erarlier? Hahneman jumped into Honduras. Amazingly, E Howard Hunt was asked in a CIA activities hearing about Hahneman. But, according to a US official Hahneman had planned his hijack and jump for years. HE WAS NOT A COPYCAT, the FBI and media have pushed that false narrative for almost 50 years and everyone accepts it. The copycat label was propaganda and it worked up until now.

66 total unidentified prints for this case. That probably includes letters, not just the plane. 8 partial finger prints and one impression (palm) found around hijacker seat. No prints found on cigarette butts. FBI compared suspect's prints to the 8 plus palm. For Rackstraw the prints were not a match but they still pursued his palm print, also negative. Conclusion, matching the prints can include a suspect but no match can't eliminate. The prints aren't confirmed to be Cooper's.