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Hahneman was not in that list.. I found that the early sketch from his hijacking was shown to NORJAK witnesses who said it was "not identical" to Cooper.. what does that mean... it was a sketch. Even witnesses in his hijacking said the sketch was good but not perfect. In fact the pilot during the Hahneman hijacking positively identified the wrong guy.. But Hahneman's pictures vary, his weight swung greatly. I have pics of him that look like completely different people. His face ranged from fat to thin.. Years after Hahenman was known the FBI was still showing his pic to witnesses. He wasn't eliminated. I don't think Robert Gregory's positive id is any sort of smoking gun, it is one small piece of the puzzle.. and I have lots of pieces.

but why throw out the dummy reserve and not the other back chute?

That is what I said, none have fasteners. Why are you shouting and repeating what I said. We don't know what is behind the access door or the exterior access panel. Perhaps the decal was over some rivets and it tore in those places. Where is the rest of the decal.. and what was it originally attached to. A flat wall, can you pull a decal off a flat wall in one piece or did it tear and leave pieces.. Where are the missing pieces..

Why throw the non working reserve out the back??

That doc only states that the money was in packets of 100... other sources confirm and also claim they were then rubber banded into larger bundles.. I only posted the doc to confirm that 100 bills is called a "packet" by the Bank. Georger and FBI agent Larry Carr screwed this up years ago.. they contacted the bank guy and he said he rubber banded and randomized the bundles.. Carr stated here on DZ that the 3 TBAR money (packets) were random in count.... this was wrong. It took some time and I took endless attacks and ridicule for pointing out what is now obvious,, how could the money go to Cooper in packets of 100 and end up randomized on TBAR.. well it didn't.. FBI agent Carr and Georger conflated the term bundle with packet.. a bundle is an informal and general description, a packet is bank terminology for a group of 100 bills. The money went to Cooper in packets of 100, rubber banded into bundles. The 3 packets that landed on TBAR could have landed in a bundle. That eliminates the assumption that it had to land there in some container.. that changes the previous constraints on TBAR theories. Let's get this clear, a packet is 100 bills, $20 x 100 = $2000 packets are rubber banded into bundles.

Don't know, the odds change depending upon the precise location which is unknown. The (fastener) tear marks are inconsistent with any 727 stairway decal.. if it was on the wall there would have been a remnant of the decal left. Logic based on all known info,, either it didn't come from 305 on that night or the FBI is lying about it and they know it did. The FBI had more info that we do and they said it could have come from any passing 727.. Let's assume it did come from 305.. what then.. Eric has concluded its location proves based on wind that there was a western flightpath and the pilots, Northwest, chase pilots, military radar, Boeing and controllers are all wrong. A simple and more rational explanation would be that the wind at that location was from the South. The FBI admits the wind was an estimate based on Portland and Salem averaged over an hour timespan. Far from the placard location. Seattle wind was from the South, Toledo was from the South... The fact is, we don't know the wind direction at the placard location and we do know that it was shifting in the area around that time from SSE to SSW.. That means the estimate for the wind at the Cooper LZ may have been wrong. If the wind was S he would have drifted back along the flightpath.

I have filled in this redacted FBI document and it I am 99% it is correct.. It is a Hahneman document but the witness ID was a bit of work.. the type is uniform so everything comes down to letter count. Robert Gregory is the only witness that fits, he is also the one that described Cooper as having Marcelled hair. Normally, the names of Cooper suspects who have died are not redacted, Hahneman's name is redacted throughout even though he died almost 30 years ago. I believe they have redacted his name because he was never eliminated. The FBI had Hahneman's passport image on June 1... I have many photos of Hahneman and he does look quite different in the face as his weight fluctuated. He also had a turkey neck. Hahneman did have curly/marcelled hair, he was swarthy and latin in appearance.

My boycott is personal, I don't expect it to have any impact on them. I have also boycotted Nike, Starbucks, Facebook and others.. there are some I avoid as much as possible but can't entirely eliminate like Google and Amazon. I refuse to participate/support certain entities. I was a football fan, played in a recreational football league for years. It just doesn't interest me to support entities that I disagree with. Frankly, I don't miss them. It is way off topic, so I can swing this back to Cooper, and football... for bonus Cooper points. The Vancouver letter claimed Cooper went to the CFL Grey Cup final here, actually local to me, I have been to that stadium. The letter can't be confirmed from Cooper, it may be a hoax but it may be legit. This a video of the game.. there are a few pans of the crowd,, I looked for suspects but didn't notice anyone.. Ironically, the half time show is skydivers in dark suits. Do you have a suspect in that crowd???

I have boycotted the NFL... Interesting Cooper original description..

McCoy money packets were bank banded.. where did that ransom money come from? Packets = 100 bills per..

that is right the fabric panels were torn.. We can't get anywhere until we 100% confirm the exact location of that decal.

yes, there are only really two possibilities.. Cooper used the emergency systems and the FBI knew it and held it back. or The placard could have come from any plane.. Years ago with less info I thought that Cooper may have had trouble with the main control lever,, you push from raise detent to lower detent.. but on the 727-100 you have to press a button on the top off the handle for it to move.. if he didn't he couldn't use the main control. He would then have pulled off the outer emergency release cover then inner then pulled the red handle.. This would have been known. Two things support that but don't confirm it. Minor panel damage.. and no part that large was missing... was a small part missing?

The FBI's public statements are crucial.. How could they claim that placard could have come from any passing 727 and the ground crew claimed they fall off in normal operation. Either, they were correct or they were lying and knew Cooper pulled the emergency system removing both panels.

Sure they will be specific, but was the exact position understood and communicated accurately.

The lack of official documentation isn't a big deal.. it was chaotic, chutes arrived by cab, the receivers didn't know who they belonged to or care. They end up with 4 back chutes at the staging area and send two to the plane. The FBI mixed up the chutes and lost track of which was which. They don't want to admit that later. The chute left in plane does not match the one returned to Hayden, this is the only explanation. This doc implies there were 4 back chutes... 2 back chutes which he observed,,, LATER,, 2 back chutes were delivered..

These decals are regulated, the Hicks placard instruction do not match the interior main system at all so that one is out. It is close but not exact for the optional one, the "two hole panel" but it isn't the outside panel decal. It does match the exterior one which is actually inside the cavity and about 5 ft below the interior one. On a blueprint that might look like it was inside..?? Why didn't the FBI just add that blueprint in the files... It has to be one of those two for the 727. If it was the interior one behind the two hole panel than the FBI is lying and Cooper must have pulled the emergency system.. If it was the exterior one, actually inside the cavity then it could have fallen off any plane.

It only says Hayden sent in two chutes, it does not confirm that his two chutes were sent to the plane. There are no records because the FBI mixed everything up and was confused about it. No record doesn't mean it didn't happen. You don't misread a serial number and manufacturing date but get the packing date correct. Hayden's chutes were both packed May 21. Moreover, from your comment I can tell you still don't understand the process here.. There were ONLY four chutes sent to the plane, two fronts and two backs. The FBI scrambled to get the two backs, Hayden was contacted and he sent in two backs by cab. Another person contacted Cossey at home and he sent in two chutes.. The people receiving the chutes didn't know which was which, they grabbed two backs and sent them to plane with the two fronts. It happened to be one back from Cossey and one from Hayden. There would have been two back chutes sent to the plane with the two fronts.. now Hayden got one back, it was his chute that never went to the plane. Cossey got one back as well, the one that never went to the plane. Why is this important... it doesn't tell us who Cooper was but it tells us that Cooper jumped with Cossey's chute. Cossey was not lying about it. His description of that chute is the right one. Hayden sent in two chutes and assumed both were sent to the plane. Cossey assumed both of his were sent to the plane.

Eric claimed Boeing confirmed it was behind the two hole panel.. that claim is questionable. I don't know what the 2nd panel looks like and the Hicks placard text doesn't exactly match the interior emergency release system and it definitely doesn't match the main emergency system (push handle). It best matches the exterior one inside the outer access panel.

The writing on the outer panel with the holes.. there is another break away panel behind it. That is the right system.. that decal has to go either behind that access panel or inside the lower external panel. another one..

Found another image of the interior "emergency airstair" the panel "decal" does not match the Hicks. This plane was built for Pan Am 727-21, a passenger plane built in 1967.

You still don't grasp all the evidence in context. Hayden and Cossey didn't know that the other had also sent in chutes. The FBI documented the chute serial number that was left in the plane by Cooper and it DOES NOT match the one returned to Hayden. It was one of Hayden's left behind but not the one sent back to him. That means one of Hayden's and one of Cossey's was sent to Cooper and Cooper used Cossey's. The FBI mixed them up before they went to the plane. You misread the Deltor report.. it doesn't actually say that Hayden's two chutes were sent to Cooper. It only states that Hayden furnished two chutes to NORTHWEST "in order to secure parachutes to furnish the hijacker"... It does state that the front chutes were for the hijacker. It doesn't confirm the back packs. That report is a carefully worded document intended to be vague and mislead. This document does not support your argument. Hayden never gave the FBI the descriptions.. From Bruce Smith interview. https://themountainnewswa.net/2011/10/25/db-cooper-case-heats-up-again-with-controversy-over-parachutes/ " First, the container looked old – WWII vintage – even though the manufacturing label said April 1957. Further, I didn’t see any “wear marks,” as suggested in the FBI docs. “This is a luxury chute?” Norman sighed when I read the FBI document to him, clearly refuting this aspect of the Bureau’s characterization of the “chute not-taken.” Compounding doubts further, the harness material looked fresh, as if it came from a more current rig. Plus, I didn’t see any special padding on them, which the FBI claims should be there. " Even Hayden pondered the 4 back chute scenario.. " In addition, Barry supports Norman’s claim that as far as they know, both back chutes were identical. In fact, Norman seemed a bit dismayed about bureaucratic in-accuracies when I read aloud the FBI description of the two back parachutes and their many differences. However, Barry openly wonders if the FBI received four back parachutes that day – two from Norman that were identical, and two from Earl Cossey that were not. Supporting the notion of two sets of two back parachutes, author Richard Tosaw and the renown Cooper researcher known as Sluggo, both claim that NWO’s chief pilot, Al Lee, who was stationed at Sea-Tac airport, made the calls looking for parachutes and reached Earl Cossey at home. " Both Hayden and Cossey are correctly stating the truth from their perspective.

RE: Parachutes Cossey's statement... "I provided two parachutes one of them being an NB8... and the other being a Pioneer sport parachute." that does not match Hayden's two chutes. Both Hayden and Cossey must have sent in 2 back chutes each. Hayden got one back, Cossey got one back and Cooper jumped with one. The other is unknown. at 32:00 of video

Good show,, you can certainly see why Gossett was considered a good suspect.. Perhaps interview Georger, heard he recently has had some time freed up... Georger can explain his Cooper suspect theory... Theodore John Kaczynski, the UNABOMBER. Cooper had a grudge, Kaczynski had a grudge, Georger has a grudge,,, case solved?

The purpose of the WSHM wasn't to investigate the Cooper case, they were informative for the exhibit. Some of the information does add to the body of evidence and it would not exist otherwise. Sure, investigative interviews would be handled differently. Bill Mitchell.. http://www.washingtonhistory.org/collections/item.aspx?irn=122559