FLYJACK

Are you the word police,, I can use any words I like. Getting the truth and facts right is my priority... not taking advice from a domestic abuser. Selling a BS Sheridan narrative was your goal from the get go.. you used people with purpose... Congratulations, I am happy for you and can't wait to count all the errors.. then you can move on to your next scam.

Woah, you go with the elitist attitude, have you been drinking? That is the arrogance and condescension we know and may I say love. Debate, you can't debate, when I challenged your crazy theories with facts you ran away and yelled "troll".... "troll" Your Sheridan narrative is garbage, it is so bad it doesn't deserve attention. There are NO facts, what you didn't steal from others is just layers of conjecture and assumptions you wove together with confirmation bias spittle.. You are the CooperCon..

Ouch, such aggression, I must have hit a bullseye. That is the thanks I get for saving your ass and saving you from a massive factual public embarrassment, you may be smarter than G, but you aren't smarter than me... TBAR was not almost an island in Nov 1971 when Sheridan was in Nepal, the flushing channel didn't exist yet, neither did the 400 ft land bridge you claim. oops. Can't wait to see the rest of your pseudo-facts. Send me the script and I'll check for other factual errors for you, no charge. I hope you don't misrepresent my tie research that you stole, it wasn't 1963, I can prove it. Otherwise, good luck with your whatever it is... docu-fiction or something. I am proud of you, you found a sucker. And I never said Tina buried the money on TBAR, that is a lie.

I didn't get the impression he was actively listening for it.. there is no evidence Cooper's chutes or money had a beeper, but the FBI does hide info.. It would be consistent with a McChord chute, Notice though, this doc was handled by Tom Manning, the FBI man in charge of the search... it must have been important. I'll add a reference,, 6 months later hijacker Hahneman got his chutes from Andrews AFB and they had beepers. The beepers had a 24 hour minimum and 15 mile range.

Vancouver Lake flushing channel was built in 1983. TBAR "was" not (almost) an island for Norjak.. The land to the south "was" approx 4500 ft wide at narrowest. (Eric Ulis scrambles to rewrite script) thank me later. What is really interesting is the faint beeper heard west of Vancouver, probably the ALCOA plant. 7:25PM URGENT 11/26/71 TLA TO: – SEATTLE (C164 – 81) FROt-1: PORTLA ND ( 164-41) UNlSUB; HIJACKING OF NORTHWEST ORIENT AIRLINES FLIGHT THREE ZERO FiVE, ELEVEN TWENTTYFOUR SEVENTYONE:” CAA -HIJACKING; EXTORTION 00: SEATTLE. ________________ OREGON AIR NATIONAL GUARD, ADVISED THAT AT APPROXIMATELY THREE THIRTY P.M. TODAY AS HE WAS MAKING APPROACH TO PORTLAND INTERNATIONAL AiRPORT IN F-ONE ZERO ONE FIGHTER: HEARD A FAINT RADIO TONE SIGNAL BEING BROADCAST ON TWO FOUR THREE POINT ZERO MC. A FREQUENCY RESERVED FOR EMERGENCY AIRCRAFT RADIO TRANSMISSIONS. SIGNAL FIRST HEARD NEAR EVERGREEN AIRPORT, JUST EAST OF VANCOUVER, WASHINGTON, THEN HEARD SECOND TIME NEAR REYNOLDS ALUMINUM PLANT WEST OF VANCOUVER. SIGNAL HEARD FOR APPROXIMATELY FIVE MINUTES, DURING WHICH TIME __________ ATTEMPTED TO OBTAIN RADIO FIX ON AUTOMATIC DIRECTION FINDER EQUIPMENT WITHOUT SUCCESS AS SIGNAL FADED OUT. SIGNAL WAS OF END OF PAGE ONE TYPE TRANSMITTED BY EMERGENCY LOCATED BEACONS CARRIED BY GENERAL AVIATION AND MILITARY AIRCRAFT. NO SUCH BEACONS KNOWN TO HAVE BEEN IN OPERATION, EITHER ACCIDENTALLY OR FOR TEST PURPOSES, AT TIME. FOR INFORMATION. END HANDWRITTEN NOTE “MANNING HANDLING” ---- Evergreen field was East of Vancouver. But, the Reynolds Aluminum plant was near Troutdale East of Government Island next to the Columbia far from Evergreen Airport and very far East of Vancouver. The pilot stated West of Vancouver, ALCOA was the big Aluminum plant West of Vancouver on the Columbia about 4 miles upstream of TBAR. Did the pilot mix up the name of the Aluminum plant.. Alcoa was west of Vancouver but Reynolds was very far East. Since he described Evergreen as East, he was more likely referring to Alcoa as West.. but called it Reynolds by mistake. red line = railroad tracks yellow circle = Alcoa Plant

Robert,, Sheridan's book is between Snow and Sheridan, it really has nothing to do with Shutter.

Would it be worthwhile to check the WSHM chute for DNA in case Cooper did handle it.. It was handled by many since but modern DNA analysis can detect a touch... You might get a dozen profiles... but one might be Cooper.

The harness is a Pioneer "quick fit" date April 1957.. more pics here.. https://themountainnewswa.net/2011/10/25/db-cooper-case-heats-up-again-with-controversy-over-parachutes/

this map?? Georger... "** credit to FLYJACK for his current updated version of my old map published at DZ a decade ago - its nice to see FJ copying my old work without giving credit -" I just constructed this map in Google Earth, THE ENTIRE THING, it isn't your 10 year old map which I have never seen. You are delusional. Edit ,, and you are a serial liar Warner. It wasn't 2010, it was around 2013 when I started on DZ. Jo Weber messaged me pushing Duane as Cooper on me but I rejected it. She fabricated the "Bulljax" story and posted it to discredit me and get me kicked off DZ.. this was my introduction to the handful of psychos involved in the Cooper case. I left DZ and the Cooper game when my father suddenly and unexpectedly passed away.. not due to Jo Weber. When I came back to the Cooper game several years later, DZ was closed.. Shutter's site was open so I went there. That is were the new round of psychos emerged.. There MeyerLouie, R99 and (Georger) consistently lied to discredit me... all of you tried get me banned. I get it you wanted to control the Cooper narrative and didn't want disruptors.. except you guys haven't moved the ball in a decade. You and a few others are why I don't even post most of the Cooper info I have and I told Shutter to delete my account. You just aren't worthy. The Cooper game has its nasty, jealous liars and frauds.. whose only contribution is to discredit others with lies and innuendo. It still amazes me that somebody can lie repeatedly without any sense of personal responsibility or conscience. I can only conclude that you are threatened and fear being irrelevant... newsflash Georger, you are irrelevant, you have been for years..

Sounds great... If the chute matches the packing card, we have a problem.. If the chute doesn't match the packing card we still have a problem...

https://themountainnewswa.net/2011/10/25/db-cooper-case-heats-up-again-with-controversy-over-parachutes/ "Further, Norman emphatically declares that he never spoke directly to the FBI during the parachute delivery nor subsequent investigation, yet, the Bureau’s document claims that their detailed parachute information comes from Norman." "In addition, Barry supports Norman’s claim that as far as they know, both back chutes were identical. In fact, Norman seemed a bit dismayed about bureaucratic in-accuracies when I read aloud the FBI description of the two back parachutes and their many differences. However, Barry openly wonders if the FBI received four back parachutes that day – two from Norman that were identical, and two from Earl Cossey that were not." Cossey claimed sage green container/ sage green harness was used by Cooper.. he rejected remnants with sage green harness. In early FBI docs the chute taken was always described as olive drab container,, the Sage Green came from Cossey. We have a two dimensional conflict,, Sage Green/ Sage Green doesn't match Hayden's chutes and doesn't match early reports of chute taken.. If Cossey had the chute taken wrong and he was the go to with found remnants for analysis then his determinations are bogus.

I posted info earlier but the Hayden chutes are only one conflicting dimension here.. there is another conflicting dimension, the colour. Cossey rejected found chutes not sage green harness/ sage green container's... the chutes described in the FBI files were not sage green/sage green... they were both olive drab or one tan one olive drab.. IMO, the FBI is hiding something about the chutes, could be info they initially want to hold back or a massive error they made going forward. It feels like the old soviet "active measures", release conflicting info so we can't determine the truth. The FBI's primary objective is to maintain the positive public perception of the FBI, it isn't to solve cases. If they screwed up they'll cover it up. Everybody needs to remember that FBI 302's are not CONCLUSIONS, they are investigative process notes..

Nonsense. Your claim is BUSTED, it is a FACT that Steinthal S/N's had 5 digits after the year. I was responding to R99's ridiculous denial.. AFTER I POSTED THE FACTS I am not the one with the distortions.. I have to run around wasting my time to disprove your bogus assumptions... then R99 still denies it.. and you blame me.. Where is the.. hey Fly thanks for taking the time to proving my bogus assumption is invalid.. no, I get a personal attack. A few of you need to retire from the Cooper game,, you've lost perspective.

Yes, Iv'e seen Hayden's chute at the WSHM in person.. have you? Why do you ask? Are trying to discredit me.. so you can reject the fact I posted earlier which you don't accept. Steinthal chutes did have S/N's with 5 digits after the year. FACT. Shutter's argument BUSTED. Are you interested in pursuing the truth or winning arguments? It seems the latter for some of the so called Cooper sleuths... Shutter and Blevins refuse answer this question, maybe you can.. Which of Hayden's chutes did Cooper jump with? The one left on the plane or the one now at the WSHM? .

McChord chutes were AAD or static line per media reports, not Hayden's. Everybody has this completely screwed up... The data from the packing card found inside the back chute left on the plane does not match the packing card for the back chute returned to Hayden. Both were packed May 21, 1971 by Cossey which matches the FBI Hayden's claims. It is that simple. Both of Hayden's back chutes are accounted for AFTER Cooper jumped. Cooper did not use either of Hayden's chutes.. Shutter, Blevins and R99, none of your arguments undermine that. They are all desperate confirmation bias riddled red herrings. From there we need to figure out which chute he did take.

Like herding cats.... If you read my reply above,, Shutter's assumption is debunked. Please, don't let facts stop you from making up stuff.

This one was a woman..

You don't like the size of the serial number? The fact is they aren't the same, neither is the date. They should match if they are the same regardless of the actual number. Do you have evidence that S/N's for Steinthal chutes don't have 6 numbers? or are you using an assumption to draw a conclusion.. 1967 Steinthal 67-8412 https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/28-diameter-orange-white-tan-green-2006188302

Robert,, You are drifting OT again.. Ironically, you have essentially the same illogical argument as Shutter. Basically, we don't have proof for which chute Cooper took so it must have been one of Hayden's. It is true we don't have proof of which chute Cooper took but do have proof he didn't take one of Hayden's.. both are accounted for. Neither of you can tell me which one of Hayden's chutes Cooper took. Since he didn't take either of Hayden's and we don't have proof of which one took we need to use logic and reason to try to figure it out. Cossey's or McChord's. NYTimes.. "Two military models were found at McChord Air Force Base in Tacoma and rushed to the Seattle field." Himmelsbach claimed Cooper requested chutes from McChord. FBI files, Cooper expected chutes form McChord.. Cooper rejected "auto" chutes from McChord and requested manual ones, (Hayden's) Cooper was expecting them from McChord, so when did he reject them before or after he saw them? How could he reject chutes he was expecting without seeing them? If after he saw them it had to be on the plane. That means they were delivered earlier and matches Finegold's story.

Of course it is the serial number. The descriptor is below the line.. That card is poorly designed but that doesn't change the data... Are you seriously hanging your argument on that nonsense. You should be embarrassed for that. .

Robert, According to you everyone if full of BS.. Finegold, Himmelsbach, the NYTimes, Cossey, Bruce Smith.. but even if true which it isn't Cooper still didn't use either of Hayden's chutes. So which of Hayden's chutes did Cooper use? Maybe somebody can provide an actual answer before this COVID-19 zombie apocalypse gets really rolling.. The problem is both of Hayden's chutes are documented in existence AFTER NORJAK. So, which chute did he take?

A chute remnant was found in the river (blue line) between Heisson Bridge and Lucia falls.. the FBI dismissed it. The (red line) is the railway is right next to the river where the chute was found. Heisson General Store right on the railway line is most likely the store that had the break-in Norjak evening. The (wide black line) is the approximate flightpath about 4 miles from the Heisson Bridge between the 20:12 at 20:13 time mark.

From you that means nothing.. your recent posts about the Hayden chutes are littered with logical errors and irrational nonsense. I was trying to be nice but you are truly clueless.. Shutter - "226 is not a S/N.." "unbelievable", it is written right on the packing card.

It wasn't an insult, it is a fact. I asked you a simple question, which of Hayden's chutes did Cooper take? You claimed it was simple but you can't answer it and you know it. So, you tried the Georger fallback passive aggressive mockery. I am done with this garbage.. keep your toxic crap over there.

Exactly, you have no answer to a simple question.. Your passive aggressive BS is just like Georger, Shutter.