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I knew you would say this,, but there are two different issues here. First, I was pointing out the reason for the FBI's "possibly brown" claim = dark eyes. It wasn't meant to claim possibly blue... Flo claimed "dark eyes" if she was wrong that is another issue. Recalling eye colour is far more accurate than height recall. People have been using the "possibly brown" claim to advance blue eyes. For that to be true Flo had to be completely wrong. It is possible but it is really a different claim. To advance a blue eyed suspect Flo had to be wrong whereas height was an estimate. Second, the other difference is I wouldn't use eyes alone to eliminate. A suspect with blue eyes would have to have other overwhelming factors to remain included, none do/did. That is my beef with your height issue, you are using it as a single factor elimination.. even worse, you don't know Tina's actual height and you don't know if she had shoes on, you don't know the height of somebody recorded as 5' 8" while in shoes... too many variables. If I am 5' 8 3/4" no shoes, sometimes I write 5' 8" sometimes 5' 9" and I am about 5' 10" in shoes.. does that alone qualify for Cooper elimination. I remember Larry Carr saying that they weigh many factors to eliminate, it is never a single one. (unless it is way way off the description).

better,, "dark eyes", probably/possibly brown, the most common (or rarer black or dark grey) Eyes were dark,,, NOT possibly blue.

They said possibly brown, meaning "dark eyes", not possibly light or possibly blue. "From information the subject is described as white male, mid 40's, 5'10" to 6', 170 to 180 pounds, average to well built, olive or swarthy complexion, medium smooth, dark brown or black hair parted on left side, combed back, sideburns to low ear level, dark eyes, probably black or brown. Subject wore a dark suit,white shirt, with narrow black tie. He wore dark glasses with plastic rims (possibly prescription lenses) most of the time. He had dark overcoat and was described as cool and calculating. His voice was low. He spoke intelligently and was a heavy smoker of Raleigh filter tip cigarettes."

Witnesses do make errors... In the Hahneman hijacking the captain positively ID'd the wrong guy when shown pictures.. he looked similar to Hahneman. and just like the Cooper case witnesses thought the original sketch was good but not perfect.. We are relying on witness recall.. height is very poor for recall as there is no imprint or reference, it is subjective. Hair is actually very good for recall as that image is imprinted on memory. If we are going to list all military personnel with jump experience as legit suspects we will have a list so long it would be worthless...

Not Braden, he doesn't match the Cooper description, has unique features and there is no evidence other than his jumping skills.. "It is felt Unsub was not an experienced criminal because of his mannerism exhibited after he received the ... ransom money. Unsub reportedly became somewhat childish, in his actions and comments while counting the money." Braden isn't the type to become childish.

Nippon Soda used the "Sodium" method to make TI sponge... all production exported to the US... BTW,,, remember the tie was manufactured about 1964..

The Ti sponge did not match RMI,, the "salt" did. That "salt" can't be exclusive to RMI. sodium and Ti sponge is used in pyrotechnics... the round silicon spheres found on the tie suggest formed in a high temp,, perhaps a firework or hand held sparkler.. military flare/incendiary??

The "Mexican/Spanish" edition Dan Cooper comic (I bought) tracking shows it now in Los Angeles.. I should have it by the end of the week..

True, however the RMI Ti sponge was not found on the tie, the RMI "salt" was a close match but wasn't unique to RMI... The RMI connection is a theory in progress.

Lynn wrote.. "LOL There's a Hahnemann train? Sorry, his MO makes no sense in the later hijacking if he was Cooper. He changed everything Cooper did right; it's irrelevant whether he made the jump, lots of people did similar jumps. He had contact with the crew, was violent and threatening, let the passengers know he was jacking the plane - just doesn't make sense. He might have the skills, motivation, and looks to be Cooper, but why would he change not only an MO that worked, but his entire personality? No sale" This is riddled with assumptions and misinformation... and Lynn keeps repeating them from a position of ignorance.. This thinking is so problematic and ubiquitous, people drawing false conclusions from positions of ignorance or bias. Conclusions are your own but get the facts right. He changed everything Cooper did... There were some differences but those were caused by external influences. Overall, Hahneman's hijacking was very similar to Cooper's, far more similar than any other hijacking. Is it smart to repeat a successful hijacking exactly the same when authorities already had the game plan.. and had ramped up airline security? Lots of people did similar jumps.. huh what.. How many jumped out the rear stairs of a 727 with a ransom at night over a rural jungle/forest? How many were late 40's, no accent, no marks or tattoos, smoked, latin, swarthy, brown eyes, about 5' 10", thin build and about 170 lbs, dark curly/marceled wavy hair, brown shoes, collared white shirt, thin dark tie, dark suit, overcoat and dark sunglasses with a briefcase bomb?? or were ex military? Had substantial aviation knowledge? left an open chute behind? left a tie behind? asked for military chutes? demanded to fly to Mex? requested curtain and shades drawn? sat in rear and used interphone? demanded notes returned? had pills for the crew? etc... etc... Those describe BOTH Cooper and Hahneman... Are YOU freakin kidding me,,,, nodody should accept Hahneman as Cooper but to reject is irrational. He had contact with the crew.. He initially set up at the rear of the plane and communicated via interphone, he had personal contact with the crew when the FBI faked a mechanical issue and he knew they were messing with him. They forced him to transfer planes. He used the crew as a shield from snipers to transfer planes. Cooper was never put in such a situation. He was violent and threatening. The FBI documents do not convey this like the media reports, he engaged in casual talk. He allowed a stew suffering stress to leave. Unlike Cooper, all passengers knew he was hijacking the plane and some were aggressive toward him. He also had a legal drug which had an ingredient later withdrawn for inducing phycological side effects. Since all passengers were aware of Hahneman they would be prone to describe the event as traumatic. Cooper's passengers were oblivious to the hijacking. He let the passengers know he was jacking the plane. No, he didn't - the crew just announced it. The crew asked Cooper if they should inform the passengers. This was not demanded by Cooper or Hahneman. Why would he change an MO that worked. BECAUSE IT WORKED.. The MO was actually very similar, the changes were induced by the change in environment and circumstances. Since Cooper, airport security had been ramped up with screening and more air marshals. He had a briefcase bomb but it was never confirmed to be real. IMO, he had no bomb in there in case it was searched BECAUSE OF COOPER.. He needed a briefcase bomb threat and a gun. He changed his entire personality. They were messing with him from the start. He was given the wrong denominations which had to be replaced and then they faked a mechanical issue with the plane. Cooper was never messed with, he was fully accommodated. Cooper's environment and circumstances were completely different. A US official in Honduras at the time stated that Hahneman had planned his hijacking for a year,, that predates Cooper and indicates he was not a copycat as we have been told for years. Hahneman was falsely branded a Cooper copycat... and virtually no info on him was made public so nobody would look into him. It worked until now.

No steel found. There was a fragment of Stainless Steel mechanically mashed into a Titanium piece.

A tug mechanic wearing a tie,,,, I don't see it.. and there would be particles from that environment which aren't present on the tie, steel. oil, grease. The tie particles aren't consistent with a mechanic's environment. Tugs with CP Ti.. maybe. Those specific tugs? CP Titanium has many grades, I asked Tom Kaye which grade and he didn't know... The problem with the tie particles is there are so many particles you can make almost any environment fit some of them.. and the particles had 6 years to accumulate. The tie has become a Rorschach.. They are a good match for.. Electronics.. Dentistry.. Fireworks.. hand held sparklers for example. What is important is what isn't on the tie,,,, like steel.

and the tie was manufactured around 1965.. the particles had lots of time and environments to accumulate. Hahneman's neighbour said that Hahneman told him he worked for Philco/Bendix installing rocket systems on helicopters. This would have been in the mid/late 1960's. Hahnemen moved all over the world working on Military/Gov contracts..

My speculation is he used the tie to wipe his prints in the lav and/or the seat arm rests. and there was titanium on the 727...

The tie particle distribution pattern has been completely overlooked.. Like blood spatter patterns it tells us something about how the particles were deposited on the tie. Cooper tie under UV above compared to a vintage era tie. The vintage tie particle pattern is completely random. Cooper's tie has many horizontal lines (as worn) of dense particle distributions. How do you get those? Looks like about 6 lines.. An edged object is repeatedly contacting the tie in a sideways motion. I can't imagine how that happens while wearing the tie. There are similar marks on the rear piece of the tie. It seems unlikely that a particle rich object was repeatedly wiped across the tie at different heights while being worn, unless the object was heavy and repeatedly carried with both arms beneath and a sharp horizontal edge resting on the tie. However, some of the lines seem to be too low. It looks like the particles were deposited while the tie was not being worn. What are the possibilities.. The tie was used to wipe the particle rich object(s). The particles were deposited during storage. Expand the image, particle lines clearly visible..

The FBI kept 13 bills.. Brian and the Insurance company split the rest.. Tosaw got some from Brian. https://www.upi.com/Archives/1986/06/12/Teenager-gets-DB-Cooper-skyjack-loot/7227518932800/

Here we go... Concluding that Cooper could not be 5' 8" is not based on facts but on layers of subjective assumptions/estimates. Al Lee described Tina as 5' 6".. (did she have her shoes on or not??) Tina Mucklow is noted as being "approximately 5' 8" (by FBI agent, is that in shoes or not?), "she observed the hijacker in a seated position except for the brief period when he went to the lavatory"...

Cossey claimed he got back one of the back chutes,, Did he actually get one back?? If so, was it a back chute? I thought the two front chutes were technically Issaquah Skysports chutes.. Maybe,,, If both Hayden and Cossey sent in 2 back chutes each and one from each was sent to the plane, then each could have got back the one (back chute) they sent in that didn't go to the plane.

yes, the last letter, there are also 4 additional numbers printed on the bill that match the first letter, Federal Reserve Bank issuer, for example L = 12 = San Francisco. If Cooper were to alter the bills, it would be a very good and efficient strategy to just erase and change the last letter to a C.. (there are only about 14 - 1950C bills that end in C)

I am not a big fan of the altering bills idea, it just seems like too much work. but, I checked and it is easy to effectively erase a bill number/letter on older bills with an electric eraser... which were common in drafting back in the 70's. So, why change a B to a C... wouldn't it be easier to make a 3 an 8?? Well, the were no Cooper bills that ended in a C except for a few 1950C bills. No 1969, 1963A, 1963, 1934, 1950, 1950A or 1950B bills ended in a C. Changing the last letter from an A or B to a C would be a good strategy for all bills (except the few 1950C notes with a C). People checking would check the year first and not get past the last letter.. but I am still skeptical about altering all those bills.

We get quoted the average $20 bill lasts xx years... But Cooper bills aren't average. If Cooper survived with some of the money... He could have passed them into circulation and it would be very hard to find one still floating around.. However, if he stashed some away somewhere which is more likely for marked ransom money then somebody may find some and either try to exchange or sell on EBAY.

yup..

Interesting,,,, This is why I check old $20's against the Cooper list. It is a long shot but these old bills pop up. I checked a bill number shown by the U.S. Bureau of Engraving and Printing as an example of termite damage... the bills were sent in to be replaced/redeemed. The bill is piece of an old $20 and shows only part of the number in sequence 3433712 and has a 12 printed on it, making it an "L". The last letter is in a damaged area but appears to be a "C". It looks more like a "C" than a "B" but is incomplete. I ran the number 3433712 and got the Cooper note L73433712B. Those Cooper notes were manually entered to create the FBI list. The bill is L?3433712(C? I think) the Cooper bill is L73433712B. What are the odds of getting the bill letter plus 7 digits in correct sequence and position matching a Cooper $20?? one in a few million? The irony is the bill was being shown by the Treasury Department.. (U.S. Bureau of Engraving and Printing)

The FBI scoured the country for Cooper's, there was also one in Florida they looked at..

The "movie" will sure be exiting for those involved, I don't see it advancing the case in any way though. Movies/TV shows are made for the general population and don't address the deeper complexities which most of us have wrestled with. There is too much info in this case to do it justice..