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Finally, you answer the question and demonstrate that you have no idea what we have been discussing. You don't see a problem because you have no idea what is going on. If you had actually read my post.. the packing cards DON'T match. The packing card found in the pocket of the back chute left on the plane doesn't match the card in the chute returned to Hayden. That means Cooper did not jump with either of Hayden's chutes. So, which chute did Cooper jump with??? I am not going to waste any more time explaining this to you, the info has already been posted in this thread or better you can do your own homework. From your last few posts you have so much messed up that I am not interested in unwinding for you.

The reason it matters is because the FBI may have been looking for the wrong chute the whole time.. One of the chutes already found may have been the one Cooper used but was prematurely rejected because it didn't match the description. The two packing cards show that Cooper did not use either of Hayden's chutes, that leaves Cossey's chute claim or even possibly chutes from McChord. One piece of evidence really makes me wonder.. Tina told Cooper the chutes were coming from McChord, Cooper said it shouldn't take long.. So, Cooper clearly thought they were coming from McChord and military.. when did he reject them?, I don't think he did. Cooper thought the chutes he ultimately received came from McChord, even if they didn't.

Robert99, Get a grip, your comments are way off the mark and demonstrate a level of ignorance I don't expect from you. You are conflating my comments with the "conflicting" reports I quoted. I am trying to sort this out. PAY ATTENTION ROBERT99.... you are embarrassing yourself. Himmelsbach said Cooper requested chutes from McChord.. ??? Then Tina told Cooper the chutes were coming from McChord and he said it shouldn't take that long... So, he CLEARLY thought the military chutes were coming from McChord. Then when did he reject them? IF he did. The news article claimed Cooper rejected the McChord chutes because they were static line. That doesn't make any sense.. NOBODY ever said Cooper demanded static chutes. Yes, the front reserves came from Sky Sports via state Trooper, nobody is challenging that. This is about the back chutes only. Hayden did send in his two chutes by cab. He received back one he thought was left on the plane but the packing cards DO NOT MATCH. Get it, Cooper did not jump with either of Hayden's chutes.. There must have been another set of back chutes from either Cossey or McChord. Two similar back chutes were sent from Hayden by cab. Both packed by Cossey the same date. 1) Packed by Cossey May 21/71 manufactured 1960 S/N 60-9707. This was left on the plane confirmed by card found in chute pocket. 2) Packed by Cossey May 21/71 manufactured 1957 S/N 226. Confirmed by packing card in chute. This was returned to Hayden then went to museum. Both of Hayden's chutes are accounted for.... what did Cooper jump with???

Cooper did not take one of Hayden's back chutes.. The year and serial number on the packing card found in the pocket of the back chute left on the plane doesn't match the one Hayden got back.. the packing dates and packer Cossey do match indicated they are the pair from Hayden.. both of Hayden's chutes are accounted for. So, Cooper used another.. Cossey's or McChord's?

In one of the conversations she had with him, she re- marked that the parachutes were coming from McChord Air Force Base at which time he remarked that it was only about twenty minutes from McChord to the Seattle-Tacoma airport and which was apparently an accurate estimate., FBI part 26 #8883 Himmelsbach.. "He specifically asked for parachutes from nearby McChord Air Force Base, showing some familiarity with the area.” Tina interview.. While waiting on the ground at Sea-Tac for the parachutes, the hijacker became annoyed and Miss MUCKLOW told him the parachutes were coming from McChord. The hi-jacker then said, “McChord is only 20 minutes from Tacoma; it doesn't take that long." News report.. Cooper at first had ordered two parachutes, which were brought out from McChord. They were the military type, which must be opened wtth a static cord linked to the plane. It would open the chute after western Washington state to a 200-foot fall. Cooper then ordered two more. Airline officials did not say whether Cooper specific the type, but the second set were sports models, obtained at a skydiving field east os Seattle. A sports ‘chute would allow a man to free-fall several thousand feet before opening the parachute. ----- Anybody have anything more on the McChord chutes.. Clearly, they wouldn't send static chutes and they must have had bailout rigs.. The McChord chute stories don't make sense.. This FBI doc seems to suggest there were two separate "deliveries" of two back chutes. One set was Hayden's.. Was the other Cossey or McChord?

I have never spent any time on the McChord Parachutes.. As usual,, a quick scan shows conflicting stories. Cooper requested chutes from McChord. Cooper wondered why it was taking so long citing McChord time distance. Military chutes were rushed to Sea Tac from McChord. Cooper learned of the chutes from McChord, rejected them and requested sport chutes. Cooper used the military chute. So, what is the deal with the McChord chutes..

Cossey didn't claim he sent four chutes from Sky Sports.. He claimed he sent the two back chutes from his home. Only the two front chutes came from Sky Sports. But, who actually grabbed the two from Sky Sports,, I always find it odd that Emerick would grab a dummy chute by mistake.

Sidebar.. I don't think "Johnnie Greene" is Georger,, I reviewed Greene's comments and he was supportive of Blevins then turned on him, he also posted Georger's real name, Georger wouldn't do that. I have narrowed Johnnie Greene down to one of two people, but it is irrelevant to the Cooper case. Georger did post using other names.

Cossey claimed they were both white... per FBI docs.

yes, that is why it is important to figure out the chute Cooper actually took,, It wasn't either of Hayden's.. one was left on the plane and the other was returned to him. If the FBI mixed them up with Cossey's or maybe others then they may have been looking for the wrong one the entire time.

We never got the address, only a general area, I checked and the Heisson General Store existed at the time in the area. It was the main store in a rural area. The Heisson general store was also right on the rail tracks, it is a good assumption that it was that store but not confirmed. pink dot is Heisson Store, green is rail tracks

It says,, Himm's "speculations".

Himms is also quoted.. Cooper specifically asked for chutes from McChord AFB.. was that something the FBI was holding back???

It was orange and white?? FBI dismissed it because it was partially orange.. but it was a mile from the Heisson store store break in that night and right beside the rail line..

New Cooper FBI file up,,, https://vault.fbi.gov/D-B-Cooper%20/d.b.-cooper-part-46-of-46/view

Actually it is a very plausible theory... the money finds its way into the dump/landfill either intentionally discarded or unintentionally hidden in something. The landfill is right on the Columbia Slough surrounded by water with no sealing and environmental standards we have today.. and there was crap dumped everywhere. If something got into the Columbia Slough it is an easy downstream trip to TBAR.. I read a news report that TBAR fisherman would find garbage including shoes... where did the shoes come from?? the dump?

It was just a theory,, but I am not suggesting the money was hidden in the dump to be retrieved.. that makes no sense. It could have been either intentionally discarded and thrown into the garbage to get rid of it or hidden somewhere in something that was eventually tossed into the dump.. An example might be hiding the money in a house wall, the house is torn down and the debri is tossed in the dump.. or something like that. There are probably other theories that fit,, I still like the "Tina kept it theory",,, She handled money from the bag and she was a few miles upstream of TBAR a 1978/79.

It suggests the money went into and out of the Columbia in a very short timeframe around late spring/early summer.. IMO, within a few years of its discovery. That does limit the theories... that could be human possession but not necessarily that simple. I did come up with another theory long ago that actually fits. There was a dump called St John's Landfill just upstream W side of Portland on the Columbia Slough. It was a mess, people dumped stuff everywhere illegally. If the money were stashed or hidden in debris/garbage and thrown into the dump area it and made it into the Slough, it is an easy trip to TBAR.. https://www.oregonlive.com/environment/2011/03/portlands_st_johns_landfill_on.html

Yes, it suggests the money arrived from the river on TB around May/June... a delay between NORJAK and the money arrival. IMO, per the Palmer Report, the money packets were found in the upper "fresher" debri layer.. the older more deteriorated debri layer was lower. This also supports a later timeframe. Kaye believes the diatoms could only have entered the interior of the packet when fanned out in the river in late spring/early summer. The money packets spent some time somewhere between NORJAK and landing on TBAR. "Objects in your TBAR theory are closer than they appear"

Deeper, but there are variables, light/water mix/diatom/nutrients.. I have read A. Formosa has been found at a depth of 10 m in a lake (study not the Columbia R)

That is not a simple question,, it depends on the diatom and the material. A. Formosa in non-motile, some diatoms are motile. I found a sampling that had A. Formosa down to 10cm in lake sediment. Other diatoms much further. That is a soft nutrient rich environment under water not a course sand bar. I am still looking for more on A. Formosa specifically in sand... Kaye seems to suggest the A. Formosa wouldn't penetrate the course sand or into a tight packet. The seasonal bloom doesn't match Norjak.

The John Doe indictment should have been sealed.. Maybe it was intentionally publicized to keep people quiet. There would have been a better chance at identifying Cooper if it was sealed.

Tom Kay's update... "All, Attached is the last and most conclusive diatom picture from 377's bill. It shows a completely intact A. formosa sandwiched between two layers of bills. This finding shows that the formosa had to float into that position while the bills were fanned out in the water. It would be impossible for a diatom to work its way in between the bills while they were buried and under compression. We have now examined all the fragments from 377's bill so this will be the last update." Tom Kaye This indicates the money was in the Columbia River around May/June... it rules out the human burial and demonstrates there was a delay between Norjak and the money landing on TB. It eliminates many of the theories. (including one of mine) IMO, this plus the Palmer report indicating the money was found in the top sand layer with "fresher" debri suggests the money landed on TB within a few years of the 1980 find.

Received a Mexican Dan Cooper comic, it is legit, published by a Mexican publisher in Spanish for distribution throughout Latin America...

It depends on context... If they represent Ulis's theory as highly speculative and critically challenge it then that is good. However, I expect them to present it as fact and that taints the public perception. The public will be sold Eric's nonsense theory and that is a CON.