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That was a vacuum filter that was tested,,, Kaye has many sticky stubs used to collect particles,, he doesn't want to destroy those. But IMO, that is our best source of DNA..
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Tom K's sticky stubs from the tie would have the DNA.. The problems are testing is expensive, there may be many individuals and the testing is destructive.
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The only angle is to have the geneticist contact the FBI and ask,,, chances are very slim as the FBI doesn't seem interested in solving the case.
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Last mentioned,, requested in 2002, that is when they wanted to do DNA. Sent to LA lab in 1974,, in 2002 lab had no record. Later in 2002 they found a hair sample. Possibly found it?? There was actually two hairs found on the plane, head and limb.
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By "well known" if you mean high profile public ones.. Off the top of my head, I think they all have brown eyes except Sheridan Peterson but I haven't checked them all. McCoy might have blue eyes.. The FBI investigated around 1000 suspects and about 20 were not eliminated. Unless the FBI had proven the whereabouts of a suspect during Norjak they eliminated suspects based on a subjective analysis of all factors.. the FBI didn't automatically eliminate on eye colour alone or even height alone unless it was way off.. but the FBI didn't solve this case. "all witnesses have described UNSUB aka Cooper as having brown eyes" "described as having a dark and swarthy complexion"
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"Special Agent Fred Gutt told Banse, in reference to the DNA taken from the necktie, "it's not a very good sample" and may not have been D.B. Cooper's DNA. The FBI's Gutt provided more detail yesterday, telling the Associated Press that the failed DNA test is not definitive because agents can't be sure that the DNA on the tie came from D.B. Cooper." https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2011/08/09/139259039/d-b-cooper-update-fbi-says-no-dna-match-with-new-suspect
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Ulis is still using the phrase "possibly brown" to claim it really means "possibly blue",, it doesn't. Cooper's eyes were described as "dark"... brown or black. Black is actually a very dark brown. Sheridan was a 6' 1" balding, blue eyed left handed non smoker.. Sheridan was not latin in appearance, not swarthy, he did not have a wavy/curly/marceled full head of hair. He was 185-200 lbs and living in Nepal.. He does resemble the first sketch but not the more accurate sketch "B". His image and speech has been widely publicized with no acknowledgement by witnesses. Sheridan doesn't match Cooper at all. The case for Sheridan is weak to non existent. So, why did the FBI take DNA for a such poor suspect? They also did other poor suspects.. Some of those suspects had advocates within the FBI. Sheridan was anti Government, an expert skydiver, still alive and agreed to a test,, those factors probably drove their decision to test. Eng pushed for testing LD Cooper,, a ridiculous suspect.
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All here... https://citizensleuths.com/cooperimages-sp-260985789.html
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Florence Schaffner said she saw Cooper putting on a back chute,,, well before takeoff.
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I never claimed the info was new,, What is new is the fact that it is in the FBI docs.. previously it was hearsay from agents. I posted the FBI doc as confirmation... get it.
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"degraded DNA sample could only be used to exclude individuals as possible donors"
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Q&A with director John Dower
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Citizen sleuths website server not responding. Maybe temporary? https://citizensleuths.com
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DNA results.. 9 loci... more than one individual...
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I get that as well.. I assume it is the new forum moderation, new member posts are screened.
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Lots of problems with the DNA.. It is partial, exclude only, it isn't confirmed to be Cooper and there were multiple profiles. Due to this, that partial DNA is useless to both include or exclude a suspect. However, Sheridan Peterson was DNA tested in 2004. Here, in 2008, The Deputy Assistant Director stated.. "To date, only a few of the original suspect pool have been included in the DNA Project for comparison with negatives." Essentially, in 2008, all suspect DNA testing was negative.
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The FBI admitted in the mid 70's that there wasn't enough evidence to convict anyone unless Cooper co-operated. Given the age, Cooper is certainly dead. But, that was pre-DNA. Today, the only way to solve this is with new DNA which is virtually impossible to get.. Finding any chutes now is useless. The FBI didn't have the serial numbers and Cossey can't ID them now. Conclusion, this can't be solved to a "legal" threshold, the best we can do is a "public" standard.
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It is common theme/claim that Cooper wanted to jump in the PNW. Mexico was a ruse. Nobody has any evidence for that.. none. He asked to fly to anywhere in Mexico for fuel, don't land in US for any reason. He INITIALLY asked for airstairs to be lowered in flight. He changed the demand when Reno was in play. The pilots said "American" currency and Tina said he told her "US" currency, that suggests an international influence. Cooper was described as Latin in appearance and characteristics. The FBI considered a Mexican connection. He was not dressed for the PNW climate or weather that night. He gave no flight path. The chute was virtually un-steerable. Cooper really had no way to target an LZ. Those factors indicate that Cooper initially planned to jump much further south... he adapted and decided to jump sooner when Reno was in play. Being on the plane landing in Reno with the money and no passengers and authorities waiting would have made the decision to jump earlier than planned an easy one. That is why he changed his demand to airstairs down on takeoff. He changed his plan. He wanted out ASAP.. If Reno wasn't in play,, once the plane was further South closer to his initial LZ, Cooper would have given precise flight path instructions. That never happened because his plan changed.
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Oxford shoes has been mentioned before in media reports and by the FBI.. Technically, oxfords are the type of lacing, but may be a generic term for street shoes. The shoes were also described as "non-lace type shoes of ankle length", so that doesn't jive. Doubtful, the witnesses used the term oxford in the technical sense. But, they were not LOAFERS...
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FBI file #57 is up.. very short only 47 pages, 7 plus 204 pages "deleted". https://vault.fbi.gov/D-B-Cooper /d.b.-cooper-part-57-of-57/view
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It was the "bing" sketch not the revised "B" sketch
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I think your perspective adjustment is too skinny.. Alice picked out the head shape.. for the first sketch which was not good.
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The FBI facial identification catalog was for law enforcement only so hard to find.. I did find this image on a page with KA3-9.. bottom left... triangular head page.
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DNA can only exclude.. (if it was Cooper's DNA) This is an unconfirmed report of a parachute in a pond... the pond would be near Pearson Airport along the flightpath next to the Columbia R..