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Went through the 2012 Rataczak DVD.. A few points of note.. most well known, important ones in BOLD, (my comments in brackets) recommends Tosaw’s book as most accurate crew gave input all boarded aft stairway not Christiansen 727-100 93 seats total Flo given paper,, was working coach section Tina working galley rolling down runway when got note and call from Tina told Flo to stay in cockpit paper and pen take notes HJ told Tina to sit down next to him had briefcase and paper bag showed Tina bomb eight sticks battery wire starter Tina cool as a cucumber go to Mex city gear down flaps down cabin lights out stat no one aft first class and curtain drawn Cooper never came to cockpit several times cooper became upset and threatened to touch the wires (Cooper was more "aggressive" than generally believed) crew demanded control, no outside intervention (FBI) HJ wanted 4 parachutes gave 5 o' clock deadline wanted $200,000 in US currency in a knapsack (He confirmed "US" currency, this is significant IMO) told Tina have money waiting for chutes from McChord only 20 miles away Later HJ asked for flaps 15 deg.. (Confirmed Cooper said 15 degrees but later) pass sign remain in seats HJ wanted meals for crew Tina bring money first,, money bag had string. (string?) He threatened to blow up plane when money not in knapsack (Ouch, hadn't heard that) Tina brought parachutes in.. Flo and Alice told to leave with Tina pilots planned escape.. didn't go right away can’t takeoff with stairs down.. 727 needs to rotate for takeoff (assume he means locked down) HJ agreed Refuelling stopped, thought they were intervening,, fuel truck running out of fuel, demanded another truck, fuelling stopped again, RAT swore at them. Valve froze up, never heard of that, RAT knows it was bogus. (Rataczak believed the fuelling issues were a ruse, I agree) Can’t make Mexico. Considered bailing out escape when Tina only one left,, decided not to leave Tina. Rataczak demanded Flo and Alice leave airplane. (Flo later apologized for not leaving when ordered) 727 stairs duel purpose, boarding and stability on runway. Told from Boeing,, stairs come down nose lowers 3-5 deg… it did Bill flew plane out of Seattle. lifted the landing gear by mistake then lowered again Cooper didn't notice 30 deg at 10000 ft getting ice buildup center post windscreen Tina came to cockpit. Rataczak wanted rope for Tina when she opened the stairs Get knife cut shroud line Rataczak told Cooper how to open door and lower stairs. (Thought it was Tina, maybe both) HJ can’t get stairs down Slowed down plane stair light came on rate of climb pressure.. felt bump in ears (Bingo) Rataczak on horn to air traffic control "our friend just took leave of us” “mark it” (That comm had to be logged and used in the DZ analysis) Soderlind genius figured out LZ Rataczak wanted to fly over the Pacific.. hoping Cooper would jump there Refuelling set up for Reno. Rataczak hand flying plane lowered 3-5 deg when stairs came down (not auto pilot) Scott took over and landed Reno Rataczak, you don’t want to see my FP it looks like connect the dots. stairs only dropped about 3 feet inflight sparks when landing in Reno had dogs ready in Reno for search HJ got notes and matches back matches said “how to get a high school diploma” (Second pack of matches other than SkyChef) dogs ate the crew meals on plane parachute was a 28 ft Tina doesn’t like to talk about the case except with RAT.. thinks HJ landed in something like blackberry bushes (brambles) and didn’t survive Tina carrying book in famous pic,, Mary Queen of Scotts not Bible Hasn’t talked to Flo or Alice since. Hasn’t talked to Anderson crew stories.. Tina, Tosaw called to say,, she was Carmelite nun in Convent in Eugene Oregon.. 1981 - 1993 Tina in convent Questions.. Ransom money found,, tumbled down river money in paper wrapper (probably got that from Himmelsbach, he was in close contact) FBI kept 13-14 bills HJ offered ransom money Tina packets of $20 bills… (Not exactly, actually Tina asked for money and took it) Parachutes. 1 opened cut shroud lines and tied money around waste 1 dummy chute ticket.. name Dan Cooper placard found,,, found two bodies in search parachute canopy found.. Himms not right one Suspects.. thinks FBI sent dummy chute on purpose (sabotage) collected drink glass (IMO, Cooper was never concerned with prints only hand written notes) HJ never left seat (He did but very briefly though) Paul Soderlinds trapezoid LZ… Himmelsbach book also recommend never left cockpit, never saw Cooper HJ error, let passengers go before Tina got everything
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It is a single print on an official Gov document from Jan '72. I have no idea who did it or if it was rolled properly. All I know is that there are no ridges just a smudge. It seems odd that they would require a print and not do it correctly but it is certainly possible. I will look for other examples from the same document.. can't find any that old.. newer ones have ridges.. You don't have to roll the finger to get a good print, rolling just captures more area. The print doesn't look like too much ink or too little. Not smeared. It looks just like another a print I found of somebody with no ridges..
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Here it is,, NORJAK smudged prints, no value..
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You know by now deep down KC isn't Cooper, right.. It isn't my responsibility to convince anybody Hahneman was Cooper,, that is not what I want to do. The facts determine what people believe. My interest is in getting the facts right not convincing people. Those are completely different things. Honestly, it just pisses me off when people make baseless and completely false claims when I have all the receipts.... and they have none.
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It is complicated, but Hahneman was not on the FBI radar until after his hijacking had taken place. The crew of his hijacked plane told the FBI that he was Cooper.. (their opinion) Hahneman was NOT ID'd yet and the FBI compared random prints from his plane to NORJAK prints with no match.. they also showed a sketch for his HJ to NORJAK witnesses. That sketch resembled Hahneman but was not that great according to witnesses. Once Hahneman turned himself in and was identified any connection to Cooper is redacted. While in custody Hahneman had high level intervention on his behalf.. State Department level. They had him on his hijacking though not the money, he had stashed it. It was located a year later.. I believe he spilled its location to a jailhouse plant. He got most charges dropped and a reduced sentence,, ended up serving 12 years. There were others implicated but not directly involved who were very high profile.. The deal seems to have been to cover up the extent and isolate the Hijacking to only Hahneman and keep him quiet about his "security clearance" work for the Gov. The purpose was not to cover up the Cooper case but to protect the CIA/State Department and others from disclosure of embarrasing information right when they were being criticized for foreign activities. Undermining the Cooper investigation was ancillary. For Cooper, I really don't know what the FBI believed regarding Hahneman, they did lie to the press about him. They stated that he returned from Vietnam in January '72 implying he can't be Cooper, but several witnesses place him in the US before that. I have documents that put him in Honduras January 72 establishing Honduran residency and citizenship,, but he used an altered name and fake birthdate. He was hiding in January 72 well before his hijacking. So, six weeks after NORJAK Hahneman has fled to Honduras to establish residency, one report was that he paid some taxes there.. but if he was Cooper he would have taken any money he had with him and theoretically spent it there.. perhaps that is why it has never been found in circulation. So, the Cooper case wasn't the coverup. The coverup was to minimize Hahneman and his connection to CIA/State activities and other high level people at a time when the CIA/State was under scrutiny..
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First, the bing sketch A should be tossed, the FBI revised it to sketch B to be more accurate for age and complexion and stated it was the most accurate sketch. I have maybe a dozen images of Hahneman, his look changes significantly, his weight fluctuates and hair style changes.. he really looks like 3 different people.. his face really changes with weight. His hair is wavy, curled or marceled and parted on the left... I have one picture where he has it slicked straight back and one where it is short and forward.. Hahneman was 49 and did have the turkey neck, he also had thin lips like Cooper and a slightly protruding lower lip.. sloped forehead.. slightly receeding hairline. Hahneman had slight greying hair on the temples, Cooper did not, however Bill Mitchell said he thought Coopers hair looked odd possibly dyed.. Some images of Hahneman don't show the greying sides. One witness said Cooper's hair was like George Raft and Nixon.. That matches Hahneman's hair.. Haheman doesn't have his hair slicked back here but he sometimes slicks his hair back. You can see the wavy/marceled hair and slight greying on sides..
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I do have Hahneman's Gov ink fingerprint from 1972,, There are no ridges.. there is no print just a smudge. I have researched this and there are a few possible reasons... A rare genetic condition.. unlikely. An intentional obliteration, sanding the fingers.. possible. Occupational, chemical or abrasive environment.. possible.
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Sort of... close Hahneman is the best suspect by a long shot, not even close.. I have been trying to put him on the plane but without confirmed prints and full DNA that is proving impossible. The DNA is partial (exclude only) and the prints are not confirmed to be Cooper's. Even the FBI admitted that the case can't be solved without the co-operation of Cooper. It seems impossible to put any suspect on the plane. I don't believe the FBI as an agency engaged in a cover up or any "conspiracy", but the CIA/State Department did intervene in the Hahneman case to protect themselves. L Patrick Grey was the FBI director who resigned for destroying Watergate evidence liked to Howard E Hunt.. Hunt was asked about Hahneman's involvement in the CIA coup in Guatemala... It appears Hahneman with security clearances did Gov contract work all over the world in some very sketchy places.. High level individuals within the FBI may have undermined the investigation into Hahneman on behalf of the CIA/State Department without necessarily knowing why. Today is different, Hahneman is redacted from the FBI files, that only happens if the person is still alive or the FBI wants to hide something. If he was eliminated and is dead then why is he redacted. I believe he was flagged to be redacted. No, Robert you are the only one throwing around the term "conspiracy theory". Then you attack that strawman. Hahneman claimed the money was for arms for a coup in Honduras.. not sure, maybe, but the Honduras authorities claimed a coup was nonsense, there was a US backed military coup 5 months later. He also said the money exchange at the airport was a delay tactic to ensure his jump would be a "night jump". Cooper also planned a "night jump".. No Robert, I don't have to do anything. You claim the basic facts are simple,, then make baseless assumptions.. The facts are not simple, it is complex and I have thousands of pieces of info.. I don't owe you or anyone any info I have. The only person I need to convince is myself. You and others have rejected Hahneman with assumptions based on virtually no information on him or even wrong information.. My point is your assumptions are wrong and it isn't my responsibility to prove they are wrong. You have built a purely speculative narrative from thin air... exactly like Ulis does. A narrative that puts you in a self imposed box. I have no interest in opening that box for you. It is very time consuming and there is no upside for me. My advice to you and others is to stop making assumptions about things based on your own lack of knowledge.. it is a trap. You don't know what you don't know and not knowing is a fertile environment for wild speculation.
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The wiki page is somewhat superficial and general citing news articles.. It is OK for a general overview of his hijacking but not nearly enough detail. I have thousands of docs on Hahneman from many sources including the FBI.
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You keep repeating yourself and making the same errors,, I told you before they did look at Hahneman... I don't need to ask myself anything.. You should ask yourself why you know virtually nothing about a suspect that matches Cooper nearly perfectly..
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"Everyone was blind, deaf and dumb..." Yes, they are bogus, completely ignorant comments. You really know virtually nothing about Hahneman yet have confidence in lots of conclusions. and you botched this.. Hahneman resembles sketch B better than McCoy,, sketch B was more accurate, so says the FBI. Sketch A should be tossed in the dust bin with the western flight path. Sketch B was the best representation of Cooper. "for some reason they must have decided he was not Cooper" really, what reason? If somebody could explain why he was eliminated that would be great. But all I hear is vague and uniformed assumptions with an opinion attached. I did find a gross error made by the FBI that would eliminate Hahneman as Cooper if true, it is 100% false, if they did use that then they got it wrong but I don't know if that was used. But on another level, the fact that we have virtually no info on Hahneman regarding Cooper is a tell not a reason to reject.. we have info on many high profile suspects who are not Cooper but not for Hahneman.. All the other suspects are named in the files unless they were still alive but not Hahneman.. virtually nothing.. as if he has been erased. Remember, Hahneman matches Cooper better than any other suspect yet is virtually invisible. Even suspects that were eliminated are heavily discussed on the FBI files. What is really going on is everybody (me too) accepted the false narrative that Hahneman was a copycat, he wasn't. That false label itself defined and contained any questions within a false construct. Then everyone assumed Hahneman must have been eliminated by the FBI but nobody can explain why... In fact Snow asked Carr this very question,, (why was Hahneman eliminated). Carr didn't answer and was gone from DZ soon after. So, Hahneman was ignored. When I started researching Hahneman my goal was to find out why he was eliminated,, instead I found that he was a near perfect match for Cooper far beyond any other suspect and I have not been able to eliminate him or find out if the FBI did.. What you have done and many others is eliminated a suspect based on biased assumptions, not on evidence and that isn't a rational approach to a very extraordinary case. It is amateurish thinking. You should start with the question,, why wasn't Hahneman Cooper,, not the assumption that he wasn't because the FBI would've known and told us. << this closes your mind and ends any intellectual inquiry but maybe that was the plan all along. If everyone thought he was a copycat then he wasn't Cooper. For Hahneman, there were influences higher than the FBI at work here.. The proper position for most who know very little about Hahneman is neither reject nor accept Hahneman as Cooper,,,
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Yikes,, way too many bogus assumptions... that is one reason I don't share 80% of my info. You don't know what you don't know.. That attitude and thinking is exactly why the case wasn't solved. If I started with your attitude I would never have uncovered all the info I have. Without prints in 1972 how would the FBI prove anybody was the HJ.. even the FBI admitted that the case would only be solved if the HJ co-operated. There wasn't enough evidence. Hahneman was not a copycat, a US official said he was planning for a year.. predating NORJAK. Something extraordinary occurred for this to remain "unsolved", making generalized and baseless assumptions doesn't cut it. Accepting prevalent narratives doesn't cut it. Claiming the FBI would have solved it, charged and convicted somebody if they crossed their path doesn't cut it either.. You just don't know what you don't know.
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Seems really odd doesn't it... I have an answer for it but just not ready to make it public.
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Disagree with the argument based on other things he left. He wasn't so careful. That keeps getting repeated but it isn't true. Cooper left his drinking glass, magazines, handed money to the stews, left his cigarettes, cut up chute.. all potential print ID. He only really took the notes. The matchbook he took had notes written on it. In 1971 forensics, there wasn't an expectation that they could link the tie to anyone like today. Granted, we don't know where the tie came from but the fact that he left it doesn't support the argument it wasn't his. Hahneman also left a tie behind on his plane..
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The tie particle matrix resembles.. Best.. Dentistry,, prosthetics Electronics industry Weaker.. Medical Maybe it is all three, maybe none.
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Only 1 left... (I bought one earlier but haven't received it yet) NORTHWEST AIRLINES D.B.COOPER HIJACKING! NWA HISTORY CENTER DVD TOLD BY COPILOT! (Bill Rataczak) https://www.ebay.com/itm/303269552131?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
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yes,, but there was never any evidence to support Sheridan as Cooper except his jump skills.
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Wow, Eric Ulis finally admitted what everyone else knew,, Sheridan Peterson wasn't Cooper.
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The 727-100 stair operation is different from the 200... To lower the stairs the handle on the 100 is moved from the up detent pushed outward and a button on the top is pressed simultaneously. The 200 has no button. There are two lights in the cockpit, a green means locked down and an amber means the handle is moved from the up detent and unlocked. The green light never came on. The crew reported an airstair light on at 7:42, that indicated Cooper moved the handle from the up detent. It does not mean the stairs are opened, only that the handle is moved. Tina claimed she saw the red (amber) airstair light flash sometime later before Cooper's 8:05 comms. The Boeing test indicated the airstairs were successfully opened and retracted at speeds up to to 300 knots. NORJAK was well below that so it wasn't the speed. Conclusion,,, Cooper did not have trouble with the stairs due to the speed of the aircraft. It is likely he initially failed to continuously press the button on the top of the handle while moving it outward. At 7:42 Cooper moved the handle from the up detent and the airstair light was activated in the cockpit. Later, he called to have the plane slowdown. The airstair light flashed again in the cockpit sometime prior to 8:05, that can only happen if Cooper moved the handle back to the up detent position then forward again. Remember, the light is activated by the handle not stairs open... green light is fully extended and locked down, the stairs were never fully extended and locked down. This time he must have figured out to simultaneously press the button and move the handle to open the airstairs. Also, Anderson stated the oscillations were smoother after 8:05 and they slowed down the plane.. Cooper was likely standing on the stairs between 8:05 and 8:10/11. The sled test showed very little change on the gauges with a man standing on the stairs.
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Q18: Is there anything else you consider significant to the question of where the hijacker jumped? A: It was very dark, with virtually no ground reference except when we got in the Portland area. We bounced around the clouds, with occasional breaks. The 727’s slipstream initially overcame the aft stairs hydraulic system. The stairs weren’t opening like Cooper needed. Cooper called me on the interphone while Tina was riding up front with us. Cooper had let Tina come to the front. He yelled, "slow it down!." I stated back to Cooper, "OK." And we did; we slowed the plane. The oscillations continued, as I remember, but were smoother and we hadn’t heard anything from Cooper. Bill called back to him (8:05) and he finally answered. He said everything was “OK”. More time passed. And then suddenly came that “bump”. After the final "bump" which we felt with our ears, we all discussed it for awhile, waiting for another bump. It never repeated, so we assumed that was his exit. But we discussed this among ourselves before notifying NWA. The truth is, we just didn't know for sure. I just don't recall how much time lapsed between feeling the final "bump" and reporting it to NWA via radio. That’s where the uncertainty has come from. But later we all thought that final bump was his exit. Oscillations were noticed before 8:05 (last comm with Cooper) and CONTINUED after 8:05.... A: That’s a good question because We all agreed that the gauges were detecting a disruption of airflow, most likely caused by Cooper testing out the aft stairs. But we all felt one physically distinguishable "bump" with our ears which came abruptly after we had been monitoring the gauges. We all felt it almost in unison, surprised, "there he goes!" It was the largest bump by far, an abrupt pressure change. We all thought he had exited the aircraft at that point, because the gauges never detected any further major airflow disruptions after that ‘thud’. The re-test duplicated the oscillations and the pressure bump exactly. A physically distinguishable bump came abruptly after they had been motoring the gauges (since 8:05).. Anderson also said they never detected any further major airflow disruptions after the thud,, not NONE. There were minor oscillations monitored before and after 8:05, the physical "bump" was "the largest by far"... A: Q5. Not really and it wasn’t exactly as you describe. These were minor oscillations. We detected on the gauges only. We just presumed pretty quickly that it was Cooper fiddling with the aft stairs but we weren’t one hundred percent sure because we were already flying dirty, with throttles up and fighting icing and weather. A lot going on and it wasn’t totally smooth even before the oscillations started. What we noticed was the pattern of the oscillations was continuing and there was a very minor disruption of the slipstream. Scott said at first he wasn’t feeling anything for sure, then a little later he thought there was more drag and the nose was deviating a little. When the final bump happened and the oscillations stopped that sealed it. But even then we weren’t sure and we waited before calling anybody. The context is the minor oscillations felt well before 8:11.... not at 8:11 At 8:11 the crew reported oscillations and fluctuations in the cabin... Anderson makes it clear there were minor oscillations well before 8:05 and after,, why report them at 8:11,, because they had increased in frequency and magnitude just like the sled test. At 8:11 it was felt in the cabin.... and NO, the story hasn't changed.
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No NickyB, I am not banned from Shutter's forum.. Georger steals my material here and posts it there with falsehoods, lies and distortions added.. That forces me to correct the record.. otherwise Georger doesn't exist, his 15 minutes were up many years ago. He is toxic and irrelevant. If he wasn't stealing my stuff for half his posts he'd have nothing to add. As for the "pressure bump".. I examined the FBI analysis and evidence and could not dispute it. So, my conclusion is that it is correct. Nobody has come with any argument to challenge the FBI assessment, NOBODY. All you guys have tossed out are baseless opinions. You all claim the FBI got it wrong but nobody can show how or why... The western flightpath redux.. There has been no problem with others reposting stuff I have posted,, it is only Georger who consistently adds in lies, falsehoods and distortions... it is dishonest and misleading for Shutter's forum and the case in general. Georger blames me for his banning from DZ years ago,, I wasn't here then my father suddenly died I and took years off the Cooper case. I had no part in any banning, never saw it, wasn't aware and still don't know why. It is just another lie from the most toxic person in the Cooper world.
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Better sled test image,,, nearly closed
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Southern crews trained for drops.. can be opened in flight.
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No Georger a week ago I said "within seconds, not minutes",,, You just falsely claimed I never gave a timeframe... you always get it wrong and mislead Shutter's forum.. I am not now saying it,, I have already said it. Both fluctuations and oscillations were reported at 8:11..