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I think there were some sequential non star notes here is one set, probably more.. G03072378B, G03072380B, G03072381B I recall that check six had some errors or missing bills.. Shutter is correct, rubber bands breakdown from UV,,, if the money entered the River in a later Spring in say Spring 78-79 the rubber bands would have years of UV exposure. But, who knows..
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Yeah, I understand, I have been burned before sharing stuff that is why I limit sharing original work now.. I really don't want it openly distributed, I might have 40 hours in that list over a few years. Let me think about it and see if I have that original file with the errors... it is about 95% correct.
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Creating the list was complicated, I found a site with all the numbers but lots of errors and some of the TBAR bills missing. I looked but can't find it as still existing. Then I went through the the FBI list in the FBI files to check and correct. it was a process that took a lot of time.. The star notes are not random throughout, they are all in the first third. Only one after the 3175th bill in sequence and it was a rare 1950 bill. G02520742*, G02520743* I00454621*, I00454622*, I00454629* L00382906*, L00383269*, L00383494* L00422974*, L00423163* Lots more star notes in L bills.. but only the lower numbers L00982844*, L00982845*, L00982878*, L00982879*, L00982881* L01850356*, L01850360*
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yup, the rubber band frags existed,, it seems like they turned to powder and disintegrated when handled on the beach. We don't have any credible evidence to support the location of the rubber bands.. But it doesn't matter if they were rubber banded or bank strapped, the only conclusion can be that the money was in packets of 100 and rubber banded into a number of packets per bundle when given to Cooper.
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What a bunch of frauds,, Georger was referring to Tina when he lied "She (TINA) said bands, not straps. She (TINA) meant rubber bands. She (TINA) was contacted and asked. And as I have already said so was Mrs Ingram".. Clearly, two different people, the "she" is not "so was Mrs Ingram".. The she was Tina. He now claims both referred to Mrs Ingram. Hey, why not double down. You lied Georger, own it. Eric Ulis claims there was no money missing because they found more bills,, classic Ulis screw up.. they identified more serial numbers from fragments, they didn't find all the other bills. In other words they deciphered more serial numbers from partials, they didn't add all those to the total number of bills. "During handling of the notes by PCGS Currency, 35 additional serial numbers were identified that the FBI had not recorded." That is not the same as discovering unknown bills. Clearly, each of the 280 bills counted by the FBI did not have full serial numbers. https://www.coinworld.com/news/precious-metals/db-cooper-hijack-ransom-notes-collectible.html Tom Kaye worked with Brian way back and Tom Kaye never got any description of the rubber band frags on the money from Brian.. suddenly Brian tells Ulis in detail not heard for 50 years,, BS meter on high. Not only has there never been any confirmation of the band frag locations there is no way each of the three packets had rubber band frags stuck to the top and bottom, the top of one packet was too severely damaged.. the sides of all were obliterated. Brian said they were brittle and fell of when touched, that was it. Was that when he brushed them from the sand and picked them up.. FBI Transcript: "As he did so, the boy turned up three bundles of money wrapped with rubber bands, which was a short distance below the surface of the sand. The boy picked up the money and they looked at it and determined that it had once been $20 bills." "The money was badly decomposed and was held together with rubber bands which were so old they crumbled away immediately upon handling." There were reports that only two packets had rubber band frags. "two of them held together with rubber bands that broke as soon as he handled them, while the third, which was not bound by a rubber band was thinner." It is repeated here. https://books.google.ca/books?id=sNzJyWLqP7MC&pg=PA195&lpg=PA195&dq="brian+ingram"+rubber+bands"&source=bl&ots=F1gVGxA4q2&sig=ACfU3U0AqckSSSVbyvW9a-CvJHlWYpoJ4g&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiA9eaZ_bbyAhVYJzQIHepsCLQQ6AF6BAgiEAM#v=onepage&q="brian ingram" rubber bands"&f=false The irony is, it actually doesn't matter if the packets were paper straps or rubber bands... if the money was randomized that could only have been the groups of packets being rubber banded into bundles because we know the packets themselves were not a random count. That means the money went to Cooper in rubber banded bundles of multiple packets, period. Confirmed.. the FBI claimed the money was found in the same order, same form as given to Cooper and from one bundle.
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I thought you were leaving and you stay to toss in a backhanded compliment,, thanks, I think. No, I am far better. Eric is a disaster, you've essentially said that yourself.. Now Blevins defending Ulis... makes sense. He stole Sailshaw's suspect and my tie research.. he built a completely false Sheridan narrative.. in the face of obvious contrary evidence. Everybody knows it. I can't even think of anything substantial thing he contributed to the case. He got so many things wrong and embellished evidence over and over.. I knew he was a fraud way back,,, he claimed Sheridan had a numbered account in Singapore based on HIS research of Singapore laws. I found that the law was passed but never enacted by banks.. Uiis was wrong. Fine, everybody gets things wrong and corrects. So, he just changed it to a Swiss account with no evidence.. ZERO. He always maintains his narrative regardless of the facts... The diatoms are in play so Ulis weaves some cray cray burial retrieval nonsense. He claimed the FBI confirmed the placard was from NORJAK to push his WFP, they didn't and it wasn't. Eric is a fraud, a good salesman but a fraud. A clever grifter. You are right, sort of, I have developed three good theories on the TBAR money. None of them identify Cooper though 2 have the potential to lead to an identification but not likely. What those theories do is explain how Cooper could have survived and the money end up on TBAR. That does have value as the FBI shifted to a died in the jump narrative. I treat this case as a big puzzle, We start putting together the pieces in groups from the edges in until we get a picture. Some groups just haven't joined yet.
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This is getting ridiculous,, Ulis now claims Brian said rubber band frags on the "front and back bill" (ok vague) and in the center of the bills (never heard that)... First, I don't trust Ulis, he is a serial embellisher.. Second, the bank bands is a red herring, it not material for the packets to have been bank banded. Lets's assume 'for argument" they were in rubber bands.. got it. Now, they still went to Cooper in 100's and were found on TBAR in 100's, the packets were not randomized. the money was in the same order and packaging according to the FBI. AND there is evidence the bundles were randomized. We know it could not have been the packets of 100 so it could have only been the bundles of packets.. So it is inevitable. If the packets were in bank bands or rubber bands the packets must have been rubber banded into bundles of a random count. Either way, same outcome. Ulis and Georger are playing an irrelevant strawman... to advance a nonsequitor argument. It doesn't matter if the packets of 100 were in rubber bands or bank bands,,, the packets were rubber banded into bundles of a random number. That means the TBAR money likely landed as ONE single bundle as it went to Cooper as the FBI confirmed. <<< That is the takeaway... Ulis needs the TBAR separate packet theory to support his narrative. If the the money DID NOT arrived on TBAR as one bundle then it greatly limits the means by which it could arrive. Georger and Carr have had this wrong for a decade... to defend his ego Georger doesn't even understand that the bank bands vs rubber bands are irrelevant to the TBAR one bundle conclusion. For a decade all TBAR theories had to fit the narrative that the TBAR packets could have ONLY arrive independently. THIS IS FALSE.
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I never said he got a pass on Cooper, I said I have evidence of very high level intervention on his behalf and I do. This is your problem,,, you make assumptions screw up everything and make false claims about me... Unwinding the misinformation from you is a full time job... and you can't afford my fee. Now, YOU need to admit KC doesn't match the basic Cooper description... it wasn't a tan dude.
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Now Georger is blaming me for not knowing exactly what happened to the paper bands after tumbling down a river and being buried for potentially years in the sand. He is still trying run from his decade old error.. As for Tina she was contacted and asked about the bank-style bands, she meant rubber bands, claimed Georger.. OH WAIT GEORGER LIED. Tina was never asked. Georger just made it up.. FRAUD I have three basic theories on TBAR and NONE are suspect specific NONE.
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The bills were circulated $20's The latest ransom bill was 1969, printed 5/69 - 9/70... http://www.uspapermoney.info/general/chron_s.html There were no 1969A bills,, 2/71 - 7/71.. That suggests that the bank emergency stash was at least 8-9 months old..
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That'd be my guess 3-6 packets per bundle,, randomized is a better term... A packet of 100 is about 0.5" thick... A three packet bundle is only 1.5" thick.
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Carr's opinion here is meaningless. Nothing is certain, but with nearly 9700 bills potentially circulating in the US over and over, it is likely one would have been found. I see your treasury guy's 30 years and raise it 10 years... Your Treasury guy's opinion that there is a possibility the bills were not caught at the Treasury when bills are destroyed, that might be true, but that isn't the question. Would none of the 9700 bills be caught circulating throughout the country for years.. Classic Blevins, take an opinion, shift the context and assert it as fact. Arthur L. Friedberg has been a professional numismatist for over 40 years. He has BA in history from George Washington University and an MBA from New York University. His family firm the Coin and Currency Institute is a founding member of the elite International Association of Professional Numismatists (I.A.P.N.). In June of 2001 Arthur was elected President of the Association, the first time in it's 50 year history an American has held that office. He is a lifetime member of the American Numismatic Association, and a member of the prestigious Professional Numismatists Guild since 1977. He's been a consultant to the Money and Medal Programme of the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations in Rome, Italy and has testified as an expert before the United States Senate Banking Committee. Arthur has also authored several books including, Paper Money of the United States, Modern World Coins, and Coins of the Bible. He's a contributor to The Numismatist and Coin World.
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I have the 9998 ransom bill list in a searchable spreadsheet. It was a lot of work. Every few months or so I check $20 bills listed on EBAY, people mocked me for it, screw em, I have also selected interesting/collectable bill SN's from the list and googled them.. Funny, I got a perfect SN match, but it was a $1 bill, I never thought they would use the same serial number for different denominations. I have found some $20 bills that were very very close but no matches. There are no start/stop bills in the list and I have identified around 80 TBAR bills, they are distributed fairly random in the list. That is because the FBI list was re-ordered from the random sequence given to Cooper to alpha numeric. Unfortunately, we don't have that original order.
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Yes, all or part lost... Hahneman was in the US Dec 71 and fled to Honduras Jan 72 to establish residency there. He got an ID with Honduran citizenship, an altered name and an incorrect birthdate. He was hiding.
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Darren interviewed the numismismisistister "money guy" he said if the money were spent in the US something would show up.. Hahneman fled to Honduras weeks after NORJAK, if he was Cooper then the money went to Honduras and was stashed and/or spent.. never to show up in US circulatiion.
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Also, the FBI did not want to publicly release the manor in which the money was packaged as only Cooper would know.. they state that. That info was a hold back. "information only known to us and the hijacker" Bundles were randomized,,, (not packets of 100) IMPORTANT: The money was found in packets of 100's in original order not random count, evidence is the bundles were randomized and that must have been done with rubber bands. "bundled into several sizes the time of the hijacking" "appear that it was randomly done" "bundled".. "randomly done" I posted this before but it is important.. 7:19 in video Himmelsbach.. Money was given to Cooper strapped in 100's and bundled with rubber bands.. "There were ten thousand twenty dollar bills assembled in straps of a hundred bills to a strap and individual straps held together with rubber bands."
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No, Hayden was never consulted. He never saw his chutes inside the containers.
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Yes, I posted that vid here before.. Also Tina, bank type bands and bank bands one bundle
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Yes, the float test was done long ago.. needs to be redone. Tina handled the money and said bank style bands, the bank manager is noted in the FBI files saying bank bands and Himmelsbach said straps... I noticed Ulis is claiming the rubber band frag was in the middle, I have never found any evidence for that.. Somebody should ask him for a source.
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I should address this in more detail.. I don't need to produce anything for you... or anyone, where do you get this rule from? Hahneman turned himself in but had hidden the money and he wasn't talking. When he went to court he plead guilty to reduced charges. There is evidence that he worked on CIA contracts as a radio/electronics engineer, he had a high level security clearance... I think they cut a deal, he did 12 yrs. They had to give him some time in jail for his hijacking. Hahmenan and his high level connection had leverage here. The CIA was under scrutiny at the time for illegal activities and Hahneman would be bad publicity if his connections got out. You keep saying I have no evidence, I do have evidence lots of it. Just because I won't share it doesn't mean I don't have it.. on what planet is that logical. In fact, I have so much that it is overwhelming and it would take a massive amount of work to present it properly. It would be investigator malpractice to drop a suspect based on assumptions... that is what you are demanding. BTW,,, last year I solved a 45 year old cold case from my computer at home. It involves a celebrity and they were all set to make a documentary but COVID messed that up as it involves international travel to Japan. Blevins, have you ever actually solved a famous crime??? has Eric??
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Did you catch Tom Kaye's diatom research... It suggests the money entered the River in Spring and was buried soon after... Spring only diatom, no winter diatom's.. That would indicate a delay from NORJAK to entering the water, a Spring 72-79... and a brief exposure to the River during that same Spring. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-70015-z
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A few years back I realized the dominant narrative did not make any sense.. how could the money go to Cooper, get randomized (count) and end up in 100's and the same order as given to Cooper as claimed by the FBI.. It can't.. So, I realized that Carr mixed up bundles and packets... the packets of 100's were not a randomized count, the rubber banded bundles of random count packets was.. The FBI list has been re-ordered alpha numerically and without the original bill order we can't check their curation of the list. I have the about 80 Cooper bills noted in a spreadsheet and they are dispersed quite randomly throughout the 9998 bills. WE can't do much without the original bill order. Another thing is the custody of the money vs the micro.. the bank was in control of them and we can't confirm that the micro matched the actual bills given to Cooper.. Theoretically, the bills can appear on the Micro but not be given to Cooper.. I don't think this is the case but we can't check it. For example, there was an airline extortion before NORJAK for $25,000, the person was caught in Portland and the money was never recovered. If, for example the money was taken from the bank stash then replaced but the micro wasn't updated then those bills would appear on the micro but no longer be in the stash.. The TBAR.. The evidence indicates money was given to Cooper in 100 bill packets of circulated $20 bills of random SN number sequence. The packets were likely bank paper strapped and those packets rubber banded into bundles of a random count of packets.. That means the rubber bands were at two places around the bundle. Now, the paper bands are not made of the same material currency is and it would deteriorate within months or less if there was abrasion along the bottom of the River. I believe Brian when he said there were rubber band fragments, we have no evidence for the location or any description of those fragments.. After the money lands on TBAR, the regular paper bank bands if still attached deteriorate quickly, and as the rubber bands holding the bundle deteriorate the packets separate slightly.. but there would still be rubber band fragments attached to the top and bottom packet. It all makes sense and is consistent with all the evidence. The FBI claimed it was one bundle, in the same order and form as given to Cooper. This flips the dominant narrative that the money could have only arrived as three independent packets of 100,, this is inconsistent with form the money was given to Cooper. For this to happen then the packets must have been removed from their bundle after being given to Cooper. Further, if they were in bank bands there would be no rubber bands frags found,, So, it is more likely the money landed on TBAR as one single rubber banded bundle of packets. That completely changes the means by which it could have arrived. For example Ulis claims Cooper buried the money because three independent packets were found together. Others, claim the money had to arrive in a bag or container because the three packets were independent. Further, a single bundle would never go through a dredge intact. Once you realize the single bundle was more likely, it opens up the means of arrival. I believe it came from the River. It doesn't float. The money spot was often underwater in Spring and some Spring between 72 and 79 the money entered the River and tumbled along the bottom to the money spot under the water. At that time, the money spot was effectively the river bottom. The money would be packaged something like this.. but $20's
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Unfortunately for you, Mr Blevins. The case for KC is extremely weak speculation but since KC DOES NOT match the basic description for Cooper, he is eliminated. You brag about the FBI files being useless... Cooper was universally described as having a dark/swarthy/olive complexion and Latin/Mexican/Indian descent, features and characteristics... that nails Hahneman exactly. That alone doesn't prove he is Cooper but... It eliminates KC and most other suspects. NOBODY said suntan (in November). Here are the receipts and I stopped part way though the files.. I think the point is clear. FBI PART 8 P 18 Complexion: Olive, Latin appearance, medium smooth FBI PART 8 P 21 average to well built, olive or swarthy complexion, medium smooth, dark brown or black hair parted on left side, combed back FBI PART 8 P 177 Complexion: Olive, Latin appearance, medium smooth FBI PART 8 P 179 ALL OFFICES ARE TO BEAR IN MIND WHEN CAPTIONED CRIME WAS COMMITTED ON NOVEMBER 11, 1971, UNSUB AKA D. B. COOPER WAS DESCR!BED AS BEING A WHITE MALE, t1ID·FORTIES, 5• 10" TO 6' 0", 170 POUNDS, OLIVE COMPLEXION, AND LATIN APPEARANCE. FBI PART 9 P 666 The intent of this change to the artist's composite is to more clearly show UNSUB's age and swarthy complexion. FBI PART 9 P 862 WHITE MALE, AGE 40S, HEIGHT 5'10'' TO 6'0", .. 170 TO 180 POUNDS, COMPLEXION OLIVE, LATIN APPEARANCE, MEDIUM SMOOTH, HAIR DARK BROWN OR BLACK, FBI PART 9 P 919 ALL OFFICES ARE TO BEAR IN MIND WHEN CAPTIONED CRIME WAS ON NOVEMBER 11, 1971, UNSUB AKA. B. COOPER WAS DESCRIBED AS BEING A WHITE MALE, 5 ' 1 0 " TO 6 ' 0 “ , 170 POUNDS, OLIVE AND LATIN APPEARANCE. FBI PART 10 P 1304 complexion olive, medium smooth FBI PART 10 P 1531 DESCRIPTION OF THF. SUBJECT OBTAINED BY INTERVIEW WITH STEWARDESSES AS FOLLOWS; WHITE, MALE, AMERICAN, OLIVE COMPLEXION, LATIN APPEARANCE FBI PART 10 P 1683 OLIVE-TYPE FBI PART 10 P 1683 said that the man appeared to be Latin descent FBI PART 10 P 1752 OLIVE COMPLEXION, LATIN APPEARANCE FBI PART 11 P 1922 FOLLOWING COMPOSITE TAKEN FROM INTERVIEWS OF WITNESSES WHO WERE IN A POSITION TO SEE UNSUB. RACE, WHITE; SEX, MALE; AGE, MID FORTY'S; FIVE FT TEN TO SIX FT . , ONE HUNDRED SEVENTY TO ONE HUNDRED EIGHTY POUNDS, AVERAGE TO WELL BUILT, OLIVE COMPLEXION, LATIN APPEARANCE, MEDIUM SMOOTH COMPLEXION, DARK BROWN OR BLACK HAIR, NORMAL STYLE, PARTED ON LEFT, COMBED BACK; SIDEBURNS, LOW EAR LEVEL; EYES, POSSIBLY BROWN, FBI PART 11 P 1982 DESCRIBED AS WHITE, MALE, MID FORTIES, SEVENTY TO ONE EIGHTY, OLIVE COMPLEXION, OR BLACK HAIR, NORMAL STYLE, PARTED ON SMOKED RALEIGH CIGARETTES. FBI PART 11 P 2036 Mr. MILNES said the hijacker was described as white, male, American, olive complexion, Latin appearance, black hair, normal hair style parted on left, age middle forties, six feet tall, 170 to 175 pounds, average build, brown eyes. He was wearing a black suit, white shirt, narrow black tie, black rain-type overcoat, black dress suit, and was carrying a dark briefcase. FBI PART 11 P 2039 Race: Caucasian, believed to be of Mexican-American descent with possibly some American Indian blood FBI PART 11 P 2047 UNSUB described as white male, mid-forties, five ten to six feet, one seventy to one eighty, olive complexion, latin appearance, dark brown or black hair combed straight back in normal style, parted on left, smoked Raleigh cigarettes. FBI PART 11 P 2056 that he has average eyes, of Latin appearance, with a sort of disinterested look FBI PART 11 P 2135 CHEEKS TOO FLAT, SHOULD BE MORE ROUNDED TO GIVE MEXICAN-AMERICAN APPEARANCE. FBI PART 11 P 2224 WHITE, MALE, MID 40's, 5'1011 TO 611 , 170 Tel 180 lbs., AVERAGE TO WELL BUILT, OLIVE COMPLEXION, LATIN APPEARANCE, MEDIUM SMOOTH, DARK BROWN OR BLACK HAIR, NORMAL STYLE, PARTED ON LEFT, COMBED BACK, SIDEBURNS, LOW EAR LEVEL, POSSIBLY BROWN EYES, DURING LATTER PART OF FLIGHT PUTr DARK, WRAP-AROUND SUNGLASSES WITH DARK RIMS. LOW VOICE, SPOKE INTELLIGENTLY; NO PARTICULAR ACCENT, POSSIBLY FROM MIDWEST SECTION OF THE U.S., HEAVY SMOKER OF RALEIGH FILTER TIP CIGARETTES, WEARING BLACK OR BROWN SUIT; WHITE SHIRT; NARROW BLACK TIE; BLACK DRESS SUIT; FBI PART 11 P 1987 COMPLEXION: OLIVE, SWARTHY, THE LATIN TYPE FBI PART 11 P 1841 COMPLEXION: OLIVE, LATIN APPERANCE, MEDIUM SMOOTH FBI PART 12 P 2367 MID-FORTIES; OLIVE COMPLEXION; BROWN EYES FBI PART 12 P 2442 average to well built, olive or swarthy complexion FBI PART 13 P 3119 Complexion: Olive, Latin appearance, medium smooth FBI PART 13 P 3159 which he feels more closely depicts the nose and cheeks of the unknown subject, whom he feels was of Mexican-American dissent with possibly Indian blood. FBI PART 15 P 4092 COMPLEXION OLIVE, LATIN APPEARANCE, FBI PART 18 P 5497 RACE WHITE, SEX MALE, AGE MID FORTIES, HEIGHT FIVE FEET TEN INCHES TO SIX FEET, WEIGHT ONE HUNDRED SEVENTY TO ONE HUNDRED EIGHTY POUNDS, BUILD AVERAGE TO WELL BUILT, COMPLEXION OLIVE, LATIN APPEARANCE, MEDIUM SMOOTH; HAIR DARK BROWN OR BLACK, NORMAL STYLE, PARTED ON LEFT, COMBED BACK, SIDEBURNS, LOW EAR LEVEL; EYES POSSIBLY BROWN. FBI PART 19 P 5934 "Enclosed is an artist's conception of the hijacker who extorted two hundred thousand dollars from Northwest Airlines on November 24, 1971. This man is described as follows: "Race-white; sex-male; age mid-forties; height-five feet ten inches to six feet; weight-170 to 180 pounds; build-average to well built; complexion olive, latin appearance, medium smooth; hair-dark brown or black; normal style, parted on left, combed back; sideburns, low ear level; eyes-possibly brown. FBI PART 26 P 8545 He was unable to determine from the photograph the complexion of ______ but again emphasized the hijacker had a swarthy or Latin type complexion and it appeared to him might have such a complexion. FBI PART 26 P 8574 OLIVE OR LATIN COMPLEXION· Key witnesses generally agree that unsub had an "olive or Latin" complexion.- One witness indicated a Mexican-American or possibly Indian complexion and characteristics. In addition, unsub expressed a desire to go "anywhere in Mexico”. FBI PART 26 P 8881 She thereafter remained in the cockpit where she prepared thirteen pages of notes concerning the hijacking and in which she described unsub as in his fifties. She later said he appeared to be of Latin descent. FBI PART 26 P 8882 believed unsub was a Mexican-American. She bad a short encounter with the unsub prior to her deplaning at Seattle FBI PART 27 P 9104 To date 475 suspects have been developed based·on appearance, as well as other features. Many of the suspects were developed because of their resemblance to the artist's composite of UNSUB. A 9reat number of these suspects have turned out to be in their 20s or early 30s, with light or fair complexion. According to witnesses, UNSUB's age is in the mid-40s and his complexion is olive or Latin in appearance. The artist's composite clearly· looks like a man in his late 20s or 30s and his complexion is difficult to determine from the black and white sketch. FBI PART 27 P 9390 In NORJAK case, • witnesses describe subject's complexion as olive, Latin appearance, medium smooth. FBI PART 27 P 9327 In view of the fact that unsub in this matter had a swarthy complexion and was tentatively identified by several witnesses as possibly having Mexican ancestry, the following lead is being set out: FBI PART 28 P 9541 lacks the Mexican or Indian characteristics that ____ noted in the hijacker. FBI PART 28 P 9559 further advised that the hijacker definitely had some Indian or Mexican blood in him. He would guess about one quarter Indian or Mexican blood. FBI PART 28 P 10037 FACIAL FEATURES: Should reflect a Mexican or Indian ancestry FBI PART 29 P 10072 similar Mexican-type facial features FBI PART 33 P 12115 indicated that the unsub's complexion was somewhat swarthy indicating that he might have possibly been an American Indian or Mexican American. FBI PART 34 P 13102 In view of the fact that UNSUB in this matter is possibly of American Indian decent, the following leads are being set forth pursuant to referenced communication:
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Dude, I have the receipts and I have good reasons for not sharing them. I have thousands of pieces of information. FACT,, Hahneman was redacted,,, you were what you call it.. WRONG, OUCH Just because you and Eric were motivated to make your cases public doesn't mean everyone has to. Besides, your attack on me and my research is irrelevant, what I say or do or release doesn't impact whether Hahneman was Cooper in any way. He either was or wasn't and you can't prove he wasn't. I tried and I can't prove he wasn't. You have this irrational obsession claiming that because I don't release my research then Hahneman wasn't Cooper.... this is insane. Your claim that he wasn't because the FBI would have figured it out and told everybody is conjecture, not fact. You do understand the difference. The FBI looked at KC years before you and you sent your KC case to the FBI and they didn't do anything, by your logic that proves he wasn't Cooper. oops.. YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS.... I wouldn't eliminate any suspect based on the actions of the FBI. Even Eric shouted over and over that often in cold cases the guilty person was previously looked at by investigators... Let's bring up Eric,, he finally eliminated Peterson based on Cooper smoking and Peterson not, that was a fact not speculation... get it. How can Eric be a better investigator when he has got everything wrong. Like your narrative, Eric's narrative is based on conjecture.. I started looking at Hahneman to eliminate him but I found no facts that did. If you have actual facts that eliminate Hahneman please let me know...
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Robert, you can't win this, you need to understand you've already lost. It is a fact, there was a very high level intervention on Hahneman's behalf... above the FBI. That doesn't mean the FBI as a whole knew Hahneman was Cooper, the FBI doesn't work like that. You keep making these irrational assumptions. No, I don't think the FBI as whole knew Hahneman was Cooper or covered it up. The intervention would have been isolated at the very top from higher up. You use the label "conspiracy theory" to discredit... It is meaningless drivel.. Most things are actually conspiracies.. The term "Conspiracy Theory" was invented as propaganda by the intel agencies to discredit critics. A conspiracy is an act to conspire, an act or agreement toward a common end. That can be applied to virtually everything. It is a propaganda term. Applying the label is meaningless. Further, the other fact you ignore is that the FBI made a gross error for Hahneman, one that would eliminate him from NORJAK. However, I don't know if it was a legit error or FBI misinformation or if they did use it to eliminate him. So, we know the FBI is not perfect, they make mistakes, they are also influenced by political factors. Hahneman is redacted from FBI Cooper files.. long after he died, there is no reason to redact him as all other dead suspects are named. The FBI files are riddled with the names and investigative detiails of major suspects except Peterson because he just recently died and Hahneman who died 30 years ago.. The prints here were not confirmed Hahneman's, they were from the plane he hijacked. They compared those to NORJAK's. REDACTED.... I believe this is likely Hahneman's name redacted, he was identified and in custody before this time,, I filled in the redactions and it fits. Of course since it is redacted I can't prove it. And no you are wrong.. as usual, half the male population did not match Cooper's description. Your incredibly biased mind is both exaggerating and only considering the sketch not the full description. You even stick to sketch A even though the FBI clearly stated that sketch B is the most accurate. Sketch A should be trashed. The best clue and one everyone ignores is the description as dark/olive/swarthy complexion and Latin/Mexican/Indian appearance, descent and features.. and we haven't even got to the age, hair, lips,,,, It just amazes me that almost everyone ignores this.. not really. That alone eliminates KC and most Cooper suspects.. Pack your bags and head over to the UFO forum... you lost, all your KC stuff is null and VOID. KC is not Cooper.... you know it. I know it, everybody with a pulse and a basic understanding of the case knows it. BTW,, I am using you as a foil to get this info to everyone else, not to change your mind.