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Thought I had posted before,, but The TBAR shoreline right at the money spot looks to have been replenished before the famous 1974 dredge operation and after Sept 71.. Remember, the 74 dredge operation shows South of the money spot, this is exactly at the money spot. September 1971 on the left and Jul 1973 on the right. Two bumps on the shoreline.. Locals said the money find spot was replenished regularly. The spot is at the very N end of the Fazio property.

Georger tripled down on stupid.. I quoted Tom Kaye exactly and Georger still claims it is inaccurate.. What is Georger trying to accomplish with his misinformation? Here is Tom Kaye.. "we only saw them from the springtime bloom so this puts a very narrow range on when the money got wet and was subsequently buried on Tena Bar"

As expected Georger doubles down on wrong.. He has a problem with Kaye's research because he has a contrary TBAR theory. But, that has nothing to do with me. Attacking me for quoting Kaye is not a legitimate argument. It is indicative of an intellectual fraud. TBAR theories have the same problem that Cooper suspect's do. They can't be disproven so there is always "it is possible". But, not all suspect's or TBAR theories are equal.. Kaye's diatom research indicates that the money was exposed to the River in a Spring between 72-79. It did not go directly into the Columbia. The "FBI" flightpath was accurate. Cooper jumped about 8:12, well North of the Columbia. The evidence supports those things, is it possible they are not correct? anything is possible but not very likely. A TBAR theory should fit those criteria. If your theory doesn't fit, it is weaker.

Palmer was asked about the shards at 3 ft depth, he said they probably got there during the excavation process.

Found this,, The FBI wanted this.. A person at Northwest has a copy of a voice recorder tape printout which contains all of the communication between the skyjacker, cockpit and Northwest Control Center in a timed sequence, Did they have Cooper on tape?

Georger again shows he is a complete fraud and liar. Completely toxic to the Cooper case. He is accusing me of getting Tom's work wrong and even lying... flying off the deep end. I paraphrased Tom's own statement.. from the recent Expedition Unknown. "there are diatom's that live in the winter and if it went in the water in the winter we would see those diatom's and we don't see them" Tom Kaye Those are Tom's words. Georger can read so it is clear he is wrong but Georger will never admit it. Georger always needs to discredit others... never, ever trust anything this clown says..

FBI file #62 is up.. https://vault.fbi.gov/D-B-Cooper /d.b.-cooper-part-62-of-62/view

The key to the diatoms is that there were no winter ones, only spring diatoms.. That means the money went into and was exposed to the river in a spring between 72-79 and became buried relatively soon. Ulis is 100% wrong, the river did not ONLY reach the money spot in 72 and 74. Spring 72 thru 79 is in play. Chaucer is claiming his theory ticks all the boxes, it doesn't, he has Cooper no pulling next to the Columbia along the flight path in an urban area. The evidence and witnesses indicate Cooper jumped much further North well before the Columbia. The money spot is definitely North of the circles on the map.. Eric, Shutter and myself have all analyzed images from the find and agree on this. There is no doubt whatsoever that the money spot was much further North based on landmarks identified from images. I believe from statements and images that there was regular beach nourishment at the TBAR spot separate from the recorded 1974 dredge operation. The suction dredge operation is out for two reasons,, no winter diatoms and the condition of the money.. Since the money didn't float, if it came from the River it arrived when the money spot was underwater. The money was pushed there along what would be the bottom that time. Spring is the seasonal high flow for the Columbia. A TBAR theory should fit the following.. Cooper jumps 8:11-8:13 + or - "FBI" flightpath is accurate Money enters the Columbia in Spring 72-79 and becomes buried on TBAR before exposure to winter diatoms Likely,, The money arrived as packets rubber banded into a single bundle. I have three good theories for TBAR but I don't think this can ever be solved.. no way to prove it.

IMO, it was a bit of a "who's on first" fiasco. Cossey packed them, claimed he owned them and could ID them so agents assumed he was the go to guy, nobody in the bureaucracy caught the inconsistencies. Hayden said the FBI didn't talk to him and he never looked inside the chutes.. that is why the orange and white chute in the river near Heisson is in play. It appears everyone accepted Cossey's initial error and ran with it. Cossey must have figured it out within days but instead of setting it straight he engaged in a series of shifting lies for years. Emrich confirmed only the two front reserves were sent from Issaquah. Cossey never acknowledged Hayden, ever. When he claimed they were his, he doesn't mean they were sold to Hayden. Hayden had SN 226 returned and was paid for the use of the chutes. No indication Cossey was paid and Cossey even claimed the chute left behind was returned to him. Hayden read Cossey's statements about the chutes in the newspapers and thought they were lies. This error may have undermined the entire case.

"Commando sole" boots..

I don't mean it negatively,, I already went over the recent stuff you have been posting when you were away and got very little response so it is good to see you are now discovering these things as well...

Snow,, You are all over the place, I went over much of this stuff before.. I already passed on the potential for print and fluorescent powders on the tie to Tom Kaye.. Lycopodium Clavatum was used to lubricate latex gloves.. First, the Heisson store break in was never confirmed to be the Heisson store, it is about the right location and was the area store at the time.. so likely but not 100%. Tina said Cooper's shoes were ankle high and laceless, not loafers, those french jump boots have laces.. There was a "commando sole" available on many boots at the time including laceless ones. The store break in fits Cooper well, right area, right time, right stuff stolen... right along the rail tracks.

Well, it was just an estimate, too many pieces and frags, look at the images of the 12 piles and make a guess, they aren't all the same size. 100 bills is just less than 0.5 inches thick.. They probably tried to separate them first and like many things in this case we are left with more questions.. But, if there were missing bills then there weren't rubber bands around all the packets.. I recall reading somewhere, Tosaw maybe? that 2 packets were complete and one was short. Nothing official though..

They couldn't get the number exact,, the 280 bill count was an estimate.

The Recordak has to be in the correct the order based on the bank instructions to deduct between the start/stop.. if it wasn't there would be no way to use the start/stop numbers. The FBI must have the original bill order prior to sorting and to claim the bills were in the same order as given to Cooper. We don't have direct evidence but it is implied. In this case they only filmed the front half of bill.

They don't say how they did it but it was an estimate of 280, not a hard number. I don't think it would be very hard at all. You can use bill SN's in the 12 piles to match the original micro sequence. With that original list if the bill SN's fall within a range of 100 (x3) that means three packets in the original order. Not hard to do but they never disclosed how they did it.. Also, look at the piles of 12.. if 300 bills that is 25 per pile average but some piles are larger than others,, it looks like about 300 bills. I think you are right bill.. L58739558B 1963A is the correct SN.. it is a 7 not a 1. https://www.apmex.com/product/235119/unknown-series-20-frn-pcgs-d-b-cooper-71-ransom-money

The card found in the pocket of the chute left in the plane is a Steithal SN 60-9707 July 1960.. The "60" in the SN is consistent with the year 1960 on a Steinthal.. Here a Steinthal SN 44-98914 is June 1944... the "44" = 1944 That indicates the data on that card is legit and not some error.

Lots to unpack there... The 80 or so came from HA auction images and brochure documentation as well as from images and video.. I did not document every source formally but do have the source images on my computer somewhere. I just added a note to the full bill list I created. The money was in "packets" of 100 rubber banded into "bundles" when given to Cooper. So, I prefer to refer the the TBAR money as 3 packets to avoid the confusion Larry Carr created. The Recordak was claimed to be in order so the 15 start/stops for the remaining bundles could be deducted. Since the money went to Cooper in packets of 100 then was rubber banded into bundles then it is more likely the money landed on TBAR in a single rubber banded bundle.. otherwise the packets had to be removed from the bundle by somebody. My understanding is that the Recordak film needed to be processed into images. They would have manually entered the SN and dates then sorted them alphanumerically. Since they had the original order it would have been easy to determine all 300 bill SN's of the 3 packets and they would have been able to claim the money was in the original order. So, I don't dispute the FBI claim that it was in the order as given to Cooper. Without the original order, the TBAR bills and Cooper list is only good for searching for bills. I picked out unique numbers and star bills that a collector might keep and googled them, also check EBAY once in a while. Yes, they claimed they were having trouble deducting the 15 packets x 100 from the original micro using the start/stop bills. The 15 packets were quickly incorporated into a second bank stash and that entire micro was given to the FBI. So, there are is lots of room for error in this process. It was not proactive but a deductive process. The final FBI bill list is not as certain as people think but we can't check it without the original order and documented chain of custody for the money vs micro before Norjak. It is one of the typical Cooper dead ends. Also, the bills were circulated and "random",, but they wouldn't be completely random as packets start out new in order and get distributed. Collecting circulated currency would not be entirely random, new bills would not get completely randomized when circulated. Note, there are no 1969A bills, that can roughly date the assembly of the bank stash. 1969A bills came out new June 1971. No circulated 1969A bills given to Cooper.

Snowmman, I already found that bill and if you look one page back I have a list of about 80 TBAR bills already found..

In 2008 Cossey claimed he still has the chute serial number in old log books.. https://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Unlikely-FBI-has-found-Cooper-s-chute-says-man-1268323.php "I would recognize the stitching on the parachute," said Cossey, who believes he got the parachute in the 1960s and still has the serial number in old log books. However, The FBI never got the serial number for the chute Cooper used, Cossey was contacted several times and never provided his records claiming he gave the FBI all he had.

Here is the Air America drop video.. at about 1:07:50 in video..

The Hicks placard did not come from inside the NORJAK plane.. The placard did come from 727's but not all. The FBI stated after obtaining the blueprints for the placard that it was on the outside and could have fallen from any passing 727. The placard is an for an.. emergency exit pull red handle.. The only interior pull red handle for the 727 is the optional emergency exit release. Not all 727's had that option. The Cooper plane did not even have that option. The normal emergency release is to push main lever. The Hick's placard did not come from inside that plane.

In 1976 the FBI felt the evidence was so weak that they only had a case if Cooper confessed and co-operated.. So, even if they had a suspect, they still needed the co-operation of Cooper.

A chute was found near Heisson in the South Fork Lewis River less than a mile form the Heisson store. The Rail tracks run right along the River and past the store all the way to Vancouver. The chute was several miles E of the flight path right about the 8:12 time along the flightpath.. right in the zone. The chute was rejected because it was orange and white. The chute was found in the River (blue line) and the rail tracks are the red line. That area would be a good target to search.. There was an historic flood in Heisson in Spring 1972.

Close, I don't believe Cooper intentionally swapped the cards to confuse authorities.. Somehow the SN 60-9707 card ended up in the pocket of SN 226.. The dummy had no card, the opened front reserve had its card and there were two other packing cards noted in the FBI files, SN 226 and SN 60-9707. I can't see Cooper jumping with the front dummy chute, if he used it to carry anything he would have left the contents on the plane,, IMO, he tossed it because it had no card or seal which indicated tampering. Either somebody in Reno put the SN 60-9707 packing card in the remaining back chute as there as they were loose on the plane,, or Cooper did.. Tosaw claimed Cooper removed the packing cards and inspected the chutes. Tina also said Cooper inspected the chutes.. that would include checking the cards and seals to ensure the chutes weren't tampered with. Perhaps Cooper pulled the card from SN 60-9707, checked it and checked the chute and the seal. With that card still in his hand he pulled the card from SN 226 and stuck the SN 60-9707 card in that pocket for convenience. He chose the SN 60-9707 chute and left the SN 226 card on the plane. The FBI files show that card SN 60-9707 was found in the pocket of the chute left on the plane but the chute returned to Hayden had the card for SN 226 in it. There were many chutes rejected by Cossey or because they didn't match his description. Two of interest are the chute found near Heisson in the South Fork Lewis River and another with no location. There may be others. In 1975, SN 226 Manufactured date Sept 1957 returned to Hayden.. SN 60-9707 was July 1960.. Chute found and rejected because it was a 24 fT chute. SN 60-9707 was noted as a 24 FT.