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Cooper case debates...

The problem here is the vague and imprecise language. Oscillations/fluctuations are pressure bumps but the "pressure bump" referred to by the crew in retrospect was an attempt to ID the BIGGEST and last one felt by the crew when Cooper likely jumped. At the time time the crew wasn't sure what was happening. Anderson claimed it was the largest "pressure bump" by far... so what were the other ones? smaller pressure bumps or oscillations or both.. pressure bumps are oscillations. However, they differ in magnitude and frequency. The sled test indicated that the Cooper jump was identical. The oscillations occurred over time but were not equal, the ones prior to the jump were minor, gauge only. The crew did not report these minor oscillations. They reported the "bigger" ones. The sled test indicated the fluctuations/oscillations increased violently (magnitude and frequency) when the sled left. Later labelled the "pressure bump". This "violent" increase was the 8:11 transmission of oscillations by the crew. The crew used the term "pressure bump" in retrospect to identify the last big oscillation felt when they believed Cooper left. And the crew believed 8:10 but were certain it was before 8:15. Also, when the crew claimed they could see the "glow" lights of Portland, IMO that would include Vancouver.. I don't think you could separate the light glow of Vancouver and Portland. In other words, you wouldn't see only the the glow of Portland while over the glow of Vancouver. The crew must have been North of Vancouver, not over the Columbia. Conclusion,, the FBI got it right and Cooper jumped between about 8:10/11 and 8:15 latest, not over the Columbia. Tom's diatoms also indicate the money did not land in the Columbia. I have been working on an entirely new TBAR theory that,, maintains the FBI flightpath maintains the FBI LZ introduces the money into the Columbia R in Spring when the money find spot is underwater

In a previous post I stated that there were minor oscillations prior, not felt... Anderson said the oscillations stopped after the "bump", IMO, he is referring to the bigger ones. The "violent" increase and the big one that was felt. There would still have been minor oscillations on the gauge, not felt just as before. There is no disagreement with Anderson. The problem is the vague use of the terms.. all oscillations are pressure bumps but the so called "pressure bump" was the last biggest one of a "violent" series.

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It is accurate. The oscillations were "pressure bumps" measured on the Cabin rate of change pressure gauge. This was replicated by the sled test,, the frequency and duration of fluctuations increased after the sled was dropped. "reacted violently" Anderson said, referring to the pressure bump.. the "largest bump by far".. so more than one and the largest. "but it wasn’t a one time event but a series of fluctuations which attracted our attention. I saw it first then alerted Scott and Bill, ending in a single pressure event we felt in our ears, and nothing following, not even more fluctuations. We waited to see if something more would happen but it didn’t." Crew believes bump occurred at 8:10 certain it was before 8:15. Stairs stable with man on them and very little change noted on Pressure gauge.

Yes and no... The pressure bump is a BIGGER oscillation... The crew used the term "pressure bump" in retrospect. The crew identified when it occurred. About 8:11 and no later than 8:15.

The evidence strongly suggests Cooper had military jump experience. Based on his estimated age of about mid 40's,, potentially.. WW2, Korea thru Vietnam..

This is the Cooper case,,,, very very little is certain. The chute descriptions come from Cossey who also made conflicting and false statements. We also have to sort out the conflicting serial numbers for the back chute left on the plane vs the one returned to Hayden.

No D rings on the harness.. It is odd that the dummy chute is missing. Why toss it? If it was gutted to carry something, why toss the chute out of the plane? There is a report Cooper took some crew meals..

The so called "pressure bump" was the oscillations... it wasn't a new event. Minor oscillations were noted for some time but increased "violently" in frequency and magnitude,,, that increase was later described as the famous "pressure bump" felt by the crew. The crew and the FBI believe their 8:12 report of "oscillations" refer to that pressure bump. "Pressure bump" was term applied in retrospect to differentiate those oscillations which increased in frequency and magnitude from the others. The real question is where was the plane?? The 8:12 timestamp can be off a minute or two and the flightpath can be off a minute or two.. That puts the jump at the planes location at 8:12 on the FBI map plus or minus about 3 minutes along the path. That matches the FBI analysis for Cooper's LZ.

My conclusion is simple,, the FBI got the LZ right and Cooper jumped about 8:11. That is well short of the Columbia R. So, Georger needs to prove the FBI's LZ is wrong. He can't. The four stages of Georger 1 Ridicule, smear, lie and discredit 2 Obfuscate, distract and distort 3 Double down on stages 1 and 2 4 Spend years stuck in the Vortex pushing failed arguments

No Georger, you revised your comment slightly but are still engaged in misinformation.. I stated the results of the sled test. The oscillations/fluctuations increased after the sled was dropped. It isn't my theory or opinion. I just stated the reported results of the sled test. I also stated that there were fluctuations/oscillations before Cooper's believed jump time. You lied and claimed I stated there were none. The crew referred to them as "minor". The point I was making was that based on the sled test the fluctuations/oscillations INCREASED in frequency and magnitude AFTER the weight left the stairs. For Cooper, that was later in retrospect referred to as the "pressure bump".. by the crew who did not fully realize what was happening in real time. minor oscillations/fluctuations > Cooper jumps > dramatic increase in frequency/magnitude of oscillations/fluctuations aka "pressure bump" You also lied by claiming I said Cooper jumped at Orchards.. I never claimed Cooper jumped at Orchards. I said "as far South as Battle Ground" to emphasize the most southern point for the FBI LZ zone. The crew also stated that that they thought the (jump) time was no later than 8:15. Battle Ground is only the southern point for the LZ... Cooper may have jumped further North. Basically, the FBI got it right. There is no evidence to support the theory Cooper jumped over the Columbia, even the diatoms reject it. The clipping is consistent with the sled test... The "violent" change occurred after the weight left the stairs. Anderson claimed it was identical with the hijacking. The so-called "pressure bump" is an oscillation.. it is one of increased magnitude. A: I monitored the gauges and reported to Captain Scott. We all agreed that the gauges were detecting a disruption of airflow, most likely caused by Cooper testing out the aft stairs. But we all felt one physically distinguishable "bump" with our ears which came abruptly after we had been monitoring the gauges. We all felt it almost in unison, surprised, "there he goes!" It was the largest bump by far, an abrupt pressure change. We all thought he had exited the aircraft at that point, because the gauges never detected any further major airflow disruptions after that ‘thud’. The re-test duplicated the oscillations and the pressure bump exactly.

Also, in Harrison notes... Cooper's initial demand was "aft stair lowered in flight"

One of the pics didn't show up,, added it in again.

Geoffrey Gray's book claimed Cooper had Benzedrine,, https://books.google.ca/books?id=01dWQTJamLkC&pg=PA60&lpg=PA60&dq=d+b+cooper+benzedrine&source=bl&ots=6LwP5pqTjw&sig=ACfU3U2RWJulFeDoWIswfgPmsAI37g8gpg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiyj7DvnY7xAhWE754KHZlNBvAQ6AEwEXoECBgQAw#v=onepage&q=d b cooper benzedrine&f=false Tosaw claimed Cooper "had pills for the crew.." Here an article in the FBI files claims Cooper had Benzedrine for the crew. Safe to conclude Cooper had Benzedrine for the crew... no evidence they took it. So what does this suggest... Why have Benzedrine for the crew for a 5.5 hour event if his plan was to jump in the PNW. It doesn't make sense. It does make sense if Cooper's initial plan was to jump much later and South of the US border. I have alone argued that evidence suggests Cooper's initial plan was to jump much later but changed his LZ when Reno came into play. Cooper initially demanded airstairs lowered in flight then during negotiations with the crew he changed it. The pilot transmissions of his initial demand was airstairs lowered after takeoff. FACT The FBI files also confirm by stating that Cooper demanded airstairs extended after take-off then later changed the demand to before take off. FACT Back to Benzedrine... Why would Cooper need to have Benzedrine available and offer it to the crew for an event from 2:50 in the afternoon to 8:11 in the evening unless Cooper initially had a much longer trip planned. There is probably a larger discussion about Benzedrine and the military connection. Any other swarthy 727 hijackers have Benzedrine for the crew??? Benzedrine was used by Hahneman for himself and the crew for the long journey to Southern Mexico. Daily News from New York, New York (Hahneman) May 6, 1972 the plane circled in a 100-mile holding pattern over northern Virginia and Washington. Then, shortly after 7 p.m., the plane landed for a second time at Dulles, this time to remain for about an hour for 10 minutes. During his second stop, the first bundle of money was swapped for a second bundle and the hijacker also demanded and got five Benzedrine tablets, or "Bennies," probably to keep him awake, and several evening newspapers. I DO NOT give Georger permission to copy this post in full or in part. FLYJACK

Georger is trolling Shutter's site again, He has distorted, twisted and outright lied about my post here, as usual. All the members of Shutter's site need to know that Georger is intentionally misinforming them regarding the Cooper case to advance his own views. He is toxic and continues to waste everyone's time.

Virtually all of it is about the guys trying to scam the magazine editor with a fake Cooper story.

Circling back... The fluctuations/oscillations increased AFTER the test sled/weight left the stairs. This indicates that Cooper left right before the crew reported increased oscillations at 8:11/10. Rataczak said: 'That's just the way It was 8:10 p.m. Nov 24.' The confusion is the post event rationalization by the crew to distinguish the increase in frequency and magnitude of the oscillations by using the term "pressure bump". Minor oscillations/fluctuations were there for some time prior to the crew message, they just increased in frequency and magnitude. The crew did not comprehend what was going on at the time but reported the "pressure bump" in retrospect. The sled test showed that the oscillations/fluctuations INCREASED AFTER the weight left the stairs NOT BEFORE. Also, the stairs retracted to within eight inches of closed. and Three subsequent 727 bailouts also exhibited the same rapid fluctuations. This means Cooper did not jump over/near the Columbia River and the FBI got the LZ correct as far south as Battle Ground. FBI p# 23113 ..dropped off while a chase plane photographed its trajectory as it parachuted to the ground. “As the load left the stairway it re-tracted to within eight Inches of closing, then dropped back down. The result was a marked fluctuation In the cabin air pressure which caused the crews ears to pop and registered a rapid change In the rate of on instruments In the cockpit. "Rataczak said: 'That's just the way It was 8:10 p.m. Nov 24.' Only the crew dtdn't know what it meant then. They didn't know be had bailed out until they landed at Reno and found the plane empty.” The same rapid fluctuations in air pressure were noted in three bailouts from 727 airliners in the next few months, before the FAA ordered all rear doors rigged so they could not be opened in flight.

Ulis keeps claiming the SeaFirst bank bag was size H... making stuff up again.. This is a vintage SeaFirst large bag.. 29.5 x 19.5,, bigger than H. There is no evidence that the bank bag was too small to tie.

Himmelsbach referred to the money as in straps of 100's given to Cooper.. at 6:35 Ralph Himmelsbach “There were 10,000 twenty dollar bills assembled in straps of 100 bills to a strap and individual straps held together with rubber bands.” A "strap" or a "packet" is 100 bills. Straps refers to bank banded. Packets can be rubber banded or bank banded. Ulis now claims after talking to Brian that the money was discovered as three separate "straps" and not a single brick,, as far I know this was always believed. Eric is disproving a claim that nobody ever had. Nobody ever claimed the money was found as 1 "brick". What isn't known is if initially the money arrived on TBAR as one rubber banded "bundle" of straps/packets. The FBI claimed the money was from one bundle and money was in the same order. The money was given to Cooper in packets of 100 which were rubber banded into bundles. If the money arrived as one bundle as it was given to Cooper, when the rubber bands deteriorated and broke the straps/packets would have separated appearing independent just as Brian described.

Missing Persons. Index cards missingpersoncards.pdf

Missing Persons..

FBI searched missing person files.. 21 possible found.

Richard Tosaw interview 2006 (Two-Saw)

HALO jumps from C-130's..... Cooper could have been involved or just heard about it... and adapted it to the 727. https://sofrep.com/specialoperations/worlds-first-combat-h-l-o-jump/